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so? perhaps he was researching the story about Charlemagne keeping the Labarum in his castle of Montjoie in the forest of Marly

There is a legend that the oriflamme was the Labarum and taken by Charlemagne to the forest of Marly and kept in a castle called montjoie on a hillock there until the Normans invaded and it was then taken to St Denis.

In hoc signo vinces......

"Before all else, I denounce and contest, that you shall observe no sacrilegious pagan customs. For no cause or infirmity should you consult magicians, diviners, sorcerers or incantators, or presume to question them because any man who commits such evil will immediately lose the sacrament of baptism. Do not observe auguries or violent sneezing or pay attention to any little birds singing along the road. If you are distracted on the road or at any other work, make the sign of the cross and say your Sunday prayers with faith and devotion and nothing inimical can hurt you. No Christian should be concerned about which day he leaves home or which day he returns because God has made all days. No influence attaches to the first work of the day or the [phase of the] moon; nothing is ominous or ridiculous about the Calends of January. [Do not] make [figures of?] vetulas, little deer or iotticos or set tables at night or exchange New Years' gifts or supply superfluous drinks. No Christian believes impurity or sits in incantation, because the work is diabolic. No Christian on the feast of Saint John or the solemnity of any other saint performs solestitia [solstice rites?] or dancing or leaping or diabolical chants. No Christian should presume to invoke the name of a demon, not Neptune or Orcus or Diana or Minerva or Geniscus or believe in these inept beings in any way. No one should observe Jove's day in idleness without holy festivities not in May or any other time, not days of larvae or mice or any day but Sunday. No Christian should make or render any devotion to the gods of the trivium, where three roads meet, to the fanes or the rocks, or springs or groves or corners."

The Life of St. Eligius, 588-660
St Eligius, spiritual advisor to the Merovingian kings

Must have been a busy year in RLC, this 1891. On the 21 June 1891 the little church garden had its opening (MISSION 1891) and in September they discovered a tomb - without of course that we know out of Sauniere's writing where this happened and who discovered it.

According to this new version, the foundation of the Priory of Sion was only inspired by the spirit of Godfrey de Bouillon (but also linked to the Compagnie du Saint Sacrament and to the Enfants de Saint Vincent), and the preferred belief of the membership was that it was founded on 17 January 1681 at Rennes-le-Château. There was no proof to substantiate this belief however, and the earliest date that could be produced with "proof" of the Priory's foundation was 19 September 1738 (19 September being the Feast date of St JANVIER) - through the actions of François d'Hautpoul and Jean de Nègre - the evidence coming from the archives of Monsieur de Saint-Hillier (who came from the Château du Lys), the great uncle of Philippe de Chérisey. The September 1989 issue of Vaincre was to provide the conclusive evidence to settle this issue – the archives of the Priory of Sion were discovered in Barcelona – the Priory of Sion had indeed been founded on 17 January 1681 in Rennes-le-Château, confirmed by the documents of the Enfants de Saint Vincent as found beneath a commanderie (but the Priory was not connected with the Knights Templar) - its founder was Jean-Timoleon Negri d'Ables, with the later participation of Blaise d'Hautpoul (1694 onwards), and the Abbé André-Hercule de Fleury (1743 onwards). These archives were to be reproduced onto microfilm and intended to be published in later issues of Vaincre.

The origins of the PRIORY OF SION are actually quite modest. The PRIORY stems from RAZES and is only a more or less direct successor of the Children of St VINCENT and (probably) of the Company of the Blessed Sacrament founded in 1629 by Henri de LEVIS, theoretically then dissolved in 1665, but of which some secret adepts were still in existence 50 years later.

We now know that the PRIORY OF SION dates from 17 January 1681, with, as founder, JEAN-TIMOLEON NEGRI D’ABLES, and with the participation of Blaise d’HAUTPOUL (+1694), and Abbé André-Hercule de FLEURY (+ 1743).

Our Brothers must remember that, during the French Revolution of 1789-1792, a very large number of the ORDER’s documents were entrusted to Maximilien de LORRAINE, Archbishop of COLOGNE, and then partially returned in September 1840 to Victor HUGO during his journey to COLOGNE. A certain number of documents remained in the hands of the HABSBURGS. Later the HABSBURGS established secret contacts with Abbés Bérenger SAUNIERE and Henri BOUDET (of the two RENNES) in the years 1890 to 1914, with the aim of entering into negotiations.

Must have been a busy year in RLC, this 1891. On the 21 June 1891 the little church garden had its opening (MISSION 1891) and in September they discovered a tomb - without of course that we know out of Sauniere's writing where this happened and who discovered it.

....and btw, who was it that had just had two teeth extracted two days before that diary entry ...hmmm ?

Neolithic markings in the native stone and an unusual concentration of megalithic dolmens and menhirs attest to the island's early sanctity.[1] Whether or not its inhabitants were evangelised at the beginning of the fourth century by Martin of Vertou and Saint Hilaire, Irish monks from Bangor dedicated their monastery on the Île d'Yeu to Hilaire; Saint Amand, from Poitou received early training there, but it was destroyed by Viking raiders in the ninth century.

Saunière writes Metairie...when it should be Métairie
He also wrote recolte abîmé...recolte should be spelt récolte
He writes Medecin...and Médecin

and he writes the word Secret. with a full stop after it, making it an abbreviation...just like he does with lettre de M. Vic. Gen. Cros, relat. au service de Granes .........lettre de M. Vicaire Général Cros, relatif au service de Granes....please note abbreviations, full stops and lack of appropriate accents.

You are wrong Roscoe, and you haven't got a leg to stand on...if you are going to keep trumpeting about Secret in huge red letters at the top of your threads then i am going to keep correcting you.

.... stop bleating and read the page i posted up on the Cahier Journal of 1891 written by Saunière's hand and check out the facts for yourself regarding the spelling and abbreviations...after 30 years of your so-called "investigation" you are still touting made-up rubbish that you gleaned somewhere else.

persisting with this idiocy and deliberately destroying my threads.

Would you like to make an example how you think a tombeau can be "de-covered" by heavy rain or other something similar?

surely challenges to your beliefs should be welcomed and addressed not ignored

I believe it says Secret

And I believe that any changes to that are shoe horning other beliefs into self-evident FACTS.

I also believe that the people on here will do absolutely anything to try to dominate every single thread and idea that doesn't fit their ego.

Frankly I've not given a toss for some time on here and when she posts some of her pet THEORIES I'll snow job her thread too. If that gets me banned then so be it. The forum is crap anyway full of idiots whose only purpose on here is to bang their own drum the loudest.

She is now on my ignore list.

remember that the rains of September and the inondations of October 1891 were some of the worse the area has ever seen.