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PostPosted: 12 Dec 2010 10:23 pm 
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nice one, i had an ancient F. Mustang and an old battered blond Ricki4001 always shod with Rotosound r/w and played through my old vox AC30 with the original blue speakers...not what it was designed for...but my goodness she was valiant and held her own...sounded like the clashing of dusbin lids...always liked a bit of grunt!


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Hi,
Please don't get me wrong. I am absolutely an advocate for all forms of music and its effects on peoples emotions and uses within music therapy. One of the first thing you learn is that minor chords sound "moody or dark" yet major chords generally sound "happy". I know some teenagers who relax listening to Death Metal but find The Beatles quite abhorrent, so I feel there is lots of additional research that can be looked at into the use of varying frequencies and waveforms with the human brain.
Not having read Patrice's latest book, I'm not really in a position to comment about the relationships with Portals. But from what little I have picked up on this thread, I could see possible links with some of the things that John Harper and Roscoe have been discussing here relating to magnetic currents and cosmological placement.
Please keep posting your research as I find this an interesting subject matter.
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You can use an app called Attractor on iphone which programmable from 1hz to 34hz or you can buy a sound light machine or you can make your own binaural beats or isochronic tones.
Be careful with 1.45hz Tri-thalamic entrainment format I've heard it can quite dangerous.
I have quite a few other brain entrainment programs but most are pre-set according to brainwave patterns(alpha-delta-theta) and aren't as specific as Attractor.

The only work I haven't done with are gamma/hypergamma/Lambda again I would wary of these upper limits that are claimed to be pathways to ectasy there are medical considerations associated with such states as well unknown long term effects from the overstimulation of neurotransmitters in the Brain. (That's my opinion)


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These frequencies are of all types; light, sound, electrical, etc. The two- or
three-character source codes after each frequency are defined at the bottom.
All frequencies are in hz
0.16hz - 10hz Neuralgias AT
0.18 - 10 Mod. Therapy AT
0.20 - 0.26 Dental pain AT
0.20 - 10 Post-traumatics AT
0.28 - 2.15 Alcohol addiction AT
0.28 - 10 Arthritis AT
0.30 - 0.15 Depression AT
0.30 - 10 Cervobrachial syndrome AT
0.37 - 2.15 Drug addiction AT
0.40 - 10 Confusion AT
0.45 - 10 Muscle pain AT
0.5 very relaxing, against headache MG, for lower back pain AS
0.95 - 10 Whiplash AT
1-3 Delta: deep, dreamless sleep, trance state, non-REM sleep
1.0 Feeling of well-being, pituitary stimulation to release growth hormone; overall view of
inter-relationships; harmony and balanceMG
1.45 Tri-thalamic entrainment format. According to Ronald deStrulle, creates entrainment
between hypothalamus, pituitary and pineal. May benefit dyslexics and people with
Alzheimer\'s.MP2
2.15 - 10 Tendovaginatis AT
2.5 pain relief, relaxation MG. Production of endogenous opiates. EQ
3.4 Sound sleep
3.5 Feeling of unity with everything, accelerated language retention; enhancement of
receptivity MG
4-6 attitude and behavior change MH
4-7 Theta: recall, fantasy, imagery, creativity, planning, dreaming, switching thoughts, Zen
meditation, drowsiness.
4 Enkephalins; Extrasensory perception MG
4.9 Theta brain wave
5.0 unusual problem solving
5.5 Moves beyond knowledge to knowing, shows vision of growth needed
6.0 long term memory stimulation MG
7.0 Mental and astral projection, psychic surgery
7.5 Inter-awareness of self and purpose, guided meditation, creativity, contact with spirit
guides; entry into meditationMG
7.83 Earth Resonance, grounding, "Schumann Resonance."
8-10 learning new information MH
8-13 Alpha: relaxed, tranquil and non-drowsy, inward awareness, bodymind
8-14 Qi Gong and infratonic Qi Gong machine QG
8.0 Past life regression
8.3 Pick up visual images of mental objects
9.0 Awareness of causes of body imbalance and means for balance
9.41 Pyramid frequency (outside)
9.6 Mean dominant frequency associated with the earth\'s magnetic field EQ
10 enhanced release of serotonin and mood elevator, universally beneficial, use to try effects of other mixes MG. Acts as an analgesic, safest frequency, especially for hangover and jet lag. EQ
Meg Patterson used for nicotine withdrawal.MB3
10.2 Catecholamines
10.5 Healing of body, mind/body unity, firewalking; potent stabilizer and stimulating for the immunity, valuable in convalescence. MG
10.6 Relaxed and alert
12.0 Centering, doorway to all other frequencie s
13-30 Normal wakefulnes s
14-16 "associated with sleep spindles on EEG during second stage of sleep " EQ
14.0 Awake and alert
15 chronic pain MG
16 bottom limit of normal hearingMP2
18-22 Beta: outward awareness, sensory data
20 fatigue, energize. Causes distress during labor. EQ
27.5 lowest note an a pianoMP2
30 Meg Patterson used for marijuana.MB3
30 - 190 Lumbago AT
30-500 High Beta: a few people able to replicate at will
32 Desensitizer; enhanced vigour and alertnessMG
33 Christ consciousness, hypersensitivity, Pyramid frequency (inside)
35 - 150 Fractures AT
35 - 193 Arthralgy AT
35 Awakening of mid-chakras, balance of chakras
38 Endorphin release WL
40 dominant when problem solving in fearful situations. EQ
40-60 anxiolytic effects and stimulates release of beta-endorphines MG
43 - 193 Carcinomatosis AT
50 dominant frequency of polyphasic muscle activity, mains electrical in U.K. EQ
50 Slower cerebral rhythms
55 Tantra, kundalini
60 electric power lines
63 Astral projection
70-9,000 Voice spectrum MP1
70 Mental and astral projection
72 Emotional spectrum
80 Awareness and control of right direction. Appears to be involved in stimulating
5-hydroxytryptamine production, with 160 Hz. Combine with 2.5 Hz. EQ
83 Third eye opening for some people
90 Good feelings, security, well-being, balancing
105 Overall view of complete situation
108 Total knowing
111 Beta endorphinsMR. cell regeneration
120-500 PSI, transmutation, psychokinesis
125 Graham potentializer; Stimulation MH
126.22 Sun, 32nd octave of Earth year HC
136.1 Sun: light, warmth, joy, animus RV
140.25 Pluto: power, crisis & changes
141.27 Mercury: intellectuality, mobility
144.72 Mars: activity, energy, freedom, humor
147.85 Saturn: separation, sorrow, death
160 Appears to be involved in stimulating 5-hydroxytryptamine production, with 80 Hz. EQ
183.58 Jupiter: growth, success, justice, spirituality
194.71 Earth: stability, grounding
207.36 Uranus: spontaneity, independence, originality
211.44 Neptune: the unconscious, secrets, imagination, spiritual love
221.23 Venus: beauty, love, sexuality, sensuality, harmony
250 Elevate and revitalize
272 33rd octave of Earth yearHC
384 "Gurdjieff vibration associated with root chakra. Sixth harmonic of six, center of the
brainwave spectrum." RP
396 G (musical note) PL
405 VioletPL
420.82 Moon: love, sensitivity, creativity, femininity, anima
438 Indigo
440 A (musical note)
473 Blue
495 B (musical note)
527 Green
528 C (musical note)
580 Yellow
594 D (musical note)
597 Orange
660 E (musical note)
700 Red
704 F (musical note)
1000 Cerebral neurons
4,186 highest note on a piano MP2
16,000 - 20,000 Upper range for normal hearing MP2
Michael Hercules\' Nustar
Zen Player and B. Giles personal notes
AS AlphaStim (research survey)
AT Auriculotherapy device information from Bentek Corp
CA Compleat Astrologer, Derek & Julia Parker for slower physiological rhythms.
EQ Octaves and windows, Equinox, April 88
MG Megabrain Germany
MB3 Megabrain Report #3, p. 19
MH Mind Expanding Machines: Can the GP Do for the Brain What Nautilus Does for the
Body?, by Michael Hutchison, New Age Journal July/Aug 87 Graham potentializer not in
production.
MR Megabrain Report Vol 1 #2
MP1 Chant: The Healing Power of Voice and Ear, an interview with Alfred Tomatis, M.D., by
Tim Wilson, in Music: Physician for Times to Come, an anthology by Don Campbell
MP2 Sonic Entrainment, by Jonathan S. Goldman, in Music: Physician for Times to Come, an
anthology by Don Campbell
PL Power of Limits (see Accords chart) for colors and notes.
QG China Healthways Inst.
RP Astral Travel with Orgone Energy Machine, Ray A. Proper, Fry\'s Incredible Inquiry
RV Primordial Tones: Meditation on the Archetypal Energies of Celestial Bodies,
Joachim-Ernst Berendt, ReVision, Summer 1987 for planets.
WL Wolfgang Ludwig
HC Hans Cuosto, Cosmic Octave, Life Rhythm
Mortal oscillatory frequencies of Rife radio instrument, see Super Science.
Radionic frequencies chart may be obtained from L\'ORD Industries.
Electrical wave forms
One of the benefits of working with electrical stimulation is the ability to generate precise and complex frequencies. It is likely that specific waveforms have specific functions. Brain
stimulation, frequencies and waveforms are a vast and promising field of experimentation for all.
The RIFE/CRANE CES unit will allow you to access most of the above frequencies, set a time, run more than one frequency in a session
Eg 10.hrz for 5 mins, 7.83 hrz for 6 mins, 4.5 hrz for 5 mins, 12 for 5 mins etc etc

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 Post subject: Re: "The Portal"...Book Discussion
PostPosted: 13 Dec 2010 4:24 am 
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What Are Gamma Brainwaves?
Enhancing Language Development and Optimal Brain Function

Nov 22, 2009 Mary Desaulniers


forays in brain research reveal that Gamma brainwaves are associated with language development and optimal brain function.

In 2002, neuroscientist Richard Davidson and associate Antoine Lutz placed several electrodes on the heads of Buddhist monks to examine the brainwave activity during meditation. The Buddhist monks were very experienced in meditation, making them ideal study subjects.

They discovered that the meditating monks exhibited powerful gamma activity in the prefrontal cortex, particularly when these monks meditated on compassion and "loving kindness." Gamma brainwaves oscillate between 38 to 70 Hz.. Research indicates that optimal brain function occurs when these waves oscillate at 40Hz, a frequency that is found almost universally in Tibetan monks.

Recent studies also suggest that gamma waves are not only associated with focused thought, they seem to be indispensable for the development of language skills and peak brain performance.


April Benasich, professor of Neuroscience at Rutgers University in Newark sees a definite link between gamma activity and emerging language development in children within the first 36 months of life. During the period from 16 to 36 months, children experience an intense learning period when their apprehension of words and situations literally explodes.

Using EEG analysis, Benasich and her research team discovered that children with higher language and cognitive scores, better attention and self-management functions exhibited higher gamma activity in the brain. In particular, children who experienced language problems exhibited a lower range of gamma oscillation.

Her research suggests that brain mechanisms for gamma activity and language acquisition develop at the same time; this means that there is a window of opportunity when clinical intervention can increase gamma wave brain activity in the frontal cortex which can help the brain make neural connections essential for effective language development.

Optimal Brain Function
Like language development, optimal brain function is amenable to the influence of gamma activity. Using a technique called optogenetics, Stanford neuroscientist Karl Deisseroth and graduate student Feng Zhang identified the involvement of the parvalbumin neurons with the generation of gamma brainwaves.

By inhibiting these neurons, the team discovered that they could decrease gamma oscillations; by encouraging these neurons, they increased gamma activity.

These experiments showed that parvalbumin neurons are responsible for synchronizing brainwaves at the frequency of 40 HZ, the frequency the brain performs at its optimal level.

What effects are associated with brainwaves that oscillate at a 40HZ gamma frequency?

•This brainwave frequency is associated with feelings of optimism and happiness. Researcher Richard Davidson found that the monks he tested showed intense activity in the left prefrontal cortex, the area associated with positive thoughts and optimism. A natural antidepressant, gamma brainwaves increase one's level of compassion and extends a sense of loving kindness to the world.
•Gamma brainwaves encourage the integration of brain information. Because they can be found in almost every part of the brain, these brain waves facilitate enhanced and synchronized communication among different segments of the brain.
Davidson's research showed that intense gamma waves in the monks were associated with the "knitting together" of disparate brain circuits. This discovery was corroborated by MIT studies which demonstrated that when neurons in the prefrontal cortex fired in unison, they generated gamma oscillations between distant brain regions.

This discovery has significant implications for various mental disorders. Studies have shown that low gamma oscillations between brain regions are characteristic of disorders like schizophrenia, ADHD and autism.

There is no doubt that controlling gamma rhythm within the brain can very well mean that language, emotional and mental disorders can one day be managed with spiritual practices like meditation and neurological resources that synchronize brain activity and wave entrainment. Man is moving quickly towards optimal brain performance.

Source:

Peter B. Reiner. "Meditation on Demand.`` Scientific American Mind. December Issue 2009. 64-7.



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Mary Desaulniers : Thank you for your comments. My position in the paper can certainly be supported by the following professional studies on gamma brain waves and meditation.

According to Peter B. Reiner Ph.D, professor of Neuroethics and
Cognitive Enhancement at the University of British Columbia, "Brain waves, which signify groups of neurons firing in relative harmony, occur at different speeds - slow delta waves happen only in dreamless sleep, for example, and rapid beta waves occur during concentration and cognition. Gamma waves are the fastest of the bunch, and in normal people they happen only in very short bursts during REM sleep and, rarely, waking cognition. The Davidson study was remarkable in that it showed that long-term meditators are able to produce sustained gamma activity in a manner that had never been previously observed in a human being." (Peter B. Reiner. "Meditation on Demand.`` Scientific American Mind. December Issue 2009. p.66)

Professor Billy O'Connor, a leading neuroscientist with 30 years experience in research and teaching in medical schools in Ireland and Sweden (at the world renowned Karolinska Institute in Stockholm) claims that research shows there is a correlation between transcendental mental states and gamma waves.(http://www.imt.ie/blogs/irish-Medical-T ... enowned-ne uroscientist-takes.html).

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the word "apprehension" refers to "the act of learning and comprehending, the power of understanding." Use of the word "apprehension" in the context of the children's "apprehension of words and situations" is perfectly justified.

My article is a reflection on recent development in the research of brain function and meditation.

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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2010 5:04 am 
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Roger wrote:
This may well be true, but it also would've helped if they'd liked one another just a bit more.

... as it was with so many bands, i.e. the Cream, the Beatles, the Animals, etc.

BTW.
when he got older it seems Keith liked his fellow musicians more ... like in 1990 with Simon Phillips on drums, Jeff Skunk Baxter and Joe Walsh on guitars and John Entwistle on bass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZT1tWVQwCk&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ctM9giFEJ0&feature=related


As to low voltage/high frequency: 12 years ago I cured my shoulder sitting 10 times for half an hour between two energy fields that eminated something like 2 GHz. It helped. It was a Multiple Wave Oscillator that was used - and was invented (with assistance from Nikola Tesla) by polish doctor Lakhovsky who lived in Paris in the 1920's and cured people from cancer there with his thingy. I have a book about this, with pictures of cancer affected body parts (before - after). Lakhovsky wrote that living cells emit and receive electromagnetic radiations at their own high frequencies.
It was fun seeing purple electromagnetic sparks dancing during my treatment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lakhovsky

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsed_Electromagnetic_Field_Therapy


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Lakhovsky wrote that living cells emit and receive electromagnetic radiations at their own high frequencies.


and that dear Egi, is the DNA talking.


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...young Greg indeed, what a voice...those 3 boys would have gone further if they'd had the delicate touch & sensitive ears of a female on the main FOH console.



But one of 'em played with a god http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7MgohiD ... re=related and what can compare with that ?

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[Apologies - I just realised I put this post from earlier into the wrong Girona thread. It's relevant to the "Ritual and Romance" thread as well, but was intended for the "Portal" thread, so I've repeated it below. Sorry.]

I understand little about music, but just to add a small part to all the contributions above, this is one of the passages I saved from Patrice's book that refers to the significance of F-Sharp. I like the last line.

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Then she [Liliane] started banging the bowl and the chime again took away all thought. It made my chest shake and body vibrate, as if I were engaged in a spiritual sexual act without drugs. I hung onto that chime as if it were the last intelligible thing in my world. I asked about the sound. "F-sharp sustained, of course [said Liliane]. It transforms matter." And I remembered that F-sharp had been the note made by the 'interesting bowl' in the Megalithic Dolmen de la Cova. I was hearing sounds from before known time, now forgotten.
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[Apologies - I just realised I put this post from earlier into the wrong Girona thread. It's relevant to the "Ritual and Romance" thread as well, but was intended for the "Portal" thread, so I've repeated it below. Sorry.]

I understand little about music, but just to add a small part to all the contributions above, this is one of the passages I saved from Patrice's book that refers to the significance of F-Sharp. I like the last line.

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Then she [Liliane] started banging the bowl and the chime again took away all thought. It made my chest shake and body vibrate, as if I were engaged in a spiritual sexual act without drugs. I hung onto that chime as if it were the last intelligible thing in my world. I asked about the sound. "F-sharp sustained, of course [said Liliane]. It transforms matter." And I remembered that F-sharp had been the note made by the 'interesting bowl' in the Megalithic Dolmen de la Cova. I was hearing sounds from before known time, now forgotten.
(p.165)


yes! this was the passage i was referring to...i am not sure if fsharp is the correct note however...i am curious about the ability of sound to transform matter...our brains are matter...our bodies, matter...

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...or, more to the point.... our bodies are 60 -70 % water.


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crimson_dove wrote:
richard.webster wrote:
[Apologies - I just realised I put this post from earlier into the wrong Girona thread. It's relevant to the "Ritual and Romance" thread as well, but was intended for the "Portal" thread, so I've repeated it below. Sorry.]

I understand little about music, but just to add a small part to all the contributions above, this is one of the passages I saved from Patrice's book that refers to the significance of F-Sharp. I like the last line.

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Then she [Liliane] started banging the bowl and the chime again took away all thought. It made my chest shake and body vibrate, as if I were engaged in a spiritual sexual act without drugs. I hung onto that chime as if it were the last intelligible thing in my world. I asked about the sound. "F-sharp sustained, of course [said Liliane]. It transforms matter." And I remembered that F-sharp had been the note made by the 'interesting bowl' in the Megalithic Dolmen de la Cova. I was hearing sounds from before known time, now forgotten.
(p.165)


yes! this was the passage i was referring to...i am not sure if fsharp is the correct note however...i am curious about the ability of sound to transform matter...our brains are matter...our bodies, matter...


Why don't you think it's the correct note? And if so, why do you think Patricia misleads her readers on F-sharp?

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i am not meaning to imply that she is misleading anyone. the reason i pause with fsharp is because someone mentioned to me that it might not be an fsharp. mind you...that person may be wrong.

i wanted to question this premise here with some who know about music.

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crimson_dove wrote:
i am not meaning to imply that she is misleading anyone. the reason i pause with fsharp is because someone mentioned to me that it might not be an fsharp. mind you...that person may be wrong.

i wanted to question this premise here with some who know about music.


What was the alternative?

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i am not meaning to imply that she is misleading anyone. the reason i pause with fsharp is because someone mentioned to me that it might not be an fsharp. mind you...that person may be wrong.

It could be a G flat :wink:
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rain wrote:
crimson_dove wrote:
i am not meaning to imply that she is misleading anyone. the reason i pause with fsharp is because someone mentioned to me that it might not be an fsharp. mind you...that person may be wrong.

i wanted to question this premise here with some who know about music.


What was the alternative?


i wasn't told.
silly isn't it? people feeding people info without anything else. this genre is filled with this behaviour.

sorry nick...i don't get the g flat?

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rs2008 wrote:
F# = Gb


Not that I really understand this but...I feel like I'm walking underwater trying to understand this. I kinda get there is a relationship/ratio between F# and Gb according pythogoras but from what I can gather it's more a relationship or why bother having F# and Gb - name it the bloody same and stop confusing me. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnzGDx-JJ1o

F sharp and G flat are not the same note - Bradley Lehman

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F# is lower than Gb.

We see and hear the difference within a late 17th-century and early 18th-century tuning system (regular 1/6 comma meantone, also known as the 55-comma division of the octave).

We then adjust some of the notes upward or downward to give better usability through all keys.

This goes along with my two videos about the notes used in all 24 preludes/fugues of Bach's "Well-tempered Clavier" (book 1):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6ikS0...
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crimson_dove wrote:
rain wrote:
crimson_dove wrote:
i am not meaning to imply that she is misleading anyone. the reason i pause with fsharp is because someone mentioned to me that it might not be an fsharp. mind you...that person may be wrong.

i wanted to question this premise here with some who know about music.


What was the alternative?


i wasn't told.
silly isn't it? people feeding people info without anything else. this genre is filled with this behaviour.



What the ?????........ so this person can't say it openly on the forum and leaves everyone out of the loop. Geezzz wonder why? It's a frequency... not the end of the world.

Well, obviously this person has a problem with what is being discussed here so if you want to take this p.m. Crimson Dove I have no problems with it.
+ I'm probably going to off-topic anyways.

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i am not into the pming rain. out of the loop i am.
besides, this was mentioned to me outside of the forum.
+shrug+

this is why i bring it here. i want to know which note it is.

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F# = Gb


Not that I really understand this but...I feel like I'm walking underwater trying to understand this. I kinda get there is a relationship/ratio between F# and Gb according pythogoras but from what I can gather it's more a relationship or why bother having F# and Gb - name it the bloody same and stop confusing me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnzGDx-JJ1o

F sharp and G flat are not the same note - Bradley Lehman

Hi, as rs2008 wrote, F# is the same pitch as Gb. However their relationship to the scale that you are in is different. This guy explains it quite well I think?
http://jtauber.com/blog/2006/11/17/why_ ... ot_b-flat/
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crimson_dove wrote:
i am not into the pming rain. out of the loop i am.
besides, this was mentioned to me outside of the forum.
+shrug+

this is why i bring it here. i want to know which note it is.


I'm still not clear on exactly what you mean by the F# is not the note? Did the person that said it to you read "The Portal" and then say to you the way they were using the bowl was incorrect, or the bowl was incorrect? Or is it just a comment that F# is not a note to be used? because I add later it's referred to opening the heart chakra which according to practices is correct and since Patricia is on a journey of letting go and discovery and purification you would think it was correct. Does this person know and understand the specific preparations for the walk? and do they know the people from the society that know of this?

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i wasn't told.
silly isn't it? people feeding people info without anything else. this genre is filled with this behaviour.

sorry nick...i don't get the g flat?


And I assume from this comment that this person is familiar with this Genre? So what genre? RLC - GIRONA - MUSIC IN GENERAL?

In order to help you Crimson Dove you need to disclose what's going on. People are trying to help you but we can't read what's going on behind the scenes. It's very twenty questions - so could you please explain as much as possible up front.

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 Post subject: Re: "The Portal"...Book Discussion
PostPosted: 19 Dec 2010 3:55 am 
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I thought this was interesting because the second part of the paragraph invokes the philosophies/rumours of fulcanelli and the ? from the X types.


P188 The Portal by Patrice Chaplin
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That was true enough, but now Canigou didn't feel like the same mountain. I'd always said I thought it was glorious. Did I? When I'd lived in Ceret in the 1990s, a town frequented by artists and intellectuals in the foothills of the Pyrenees, the locals, having listened to so many tourists, repeated them in saying that Rennes-le-Chateau's treasure was an equation providing the arch-plan of human life in the future. It had been placed on this planet by extraterrestrial beings, the dicovery of which would make the finder master of his world. It was stated by more than on French scholar, priest, jounalist, and scientist that this arch-plan showed how to transcend death before your death, to become invisible, to link with past and future, and to see the blueprint of your life purpose. Knowledge of this material was hidden because in the wrong hands it would be lethal. It was said generally that the Vatican had always known of its existence. Even the French presiden, Francois Mitterand, during his visit to Ceret in the ninties, had been interested in the influx of travellers on their way north to the now-famous parish.

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yes, this person read the book. i do not know who this person knows. and what i have disclosed is simple. the person claims the Fsharp is not the appropriate note. wow...rain, it is not complicated. this is it. there was no comment about the bowl.

i am beginning to think i should have just kept my mouth shut.

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The Kabbalist Tree of the Sephiroth with its "Emanations".

Each emanation represents a "different vibration". I`m guessing that

"Daleth" is the F# vibration, is it on the Tree as well?

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