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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010 6:05 am 
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...not to mention this bit...

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Certains archiconfrères sont visiteurs de cliniques et d’hôpitaux, d’autres de prisons. D’autres encore ont une mission au crématorium de Canet, pour accompagner les familles dans l’esprit catholique.


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Le message de Saint Vincent Ferrier est quand même "offrir une fin digne à un condamné à mort"...


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010 6:09 am 
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Thorstein wrote:
"Beaucoup de communistes et d'athées font la Sanch, il ne faut pas croire!"

Just read an (old) interview with a La Sanch member named Denis Ferrer. Another Q+A i found interesting was:

"Pourquoi cette fascination pour la procession de Perpignan?
Je pense que plus on avance, moins on sait où on va, plus on veut savoir d’où l’on vient."

Full interview here.


Wow, not really sexy or sinister enough to compete with RLC, is it? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010 8:52 am 
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Les pendus, décapités, guillotinés furent escortés, à partir de 1416, par les Confrères de la Sanch sur un lieu d’exécution qui quitta le quartier historique.......


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010 2:29 pm 
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Sheila wrote:
Les pendus, décapités, guillotinés furent escortés, à partir de 1416, par les Confrères de la Sanch sur un lieu d’exécution qui quitta le quartier historique.......


Yes, and...? When will you get to the part about trying to restore the corpses of the executed to life?

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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010 7:01 pm 
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TCP wrote:
Yes, and...? When will you get to the part about trying to restore the corpses of the executed to life?

You're on D-lay in LA?

Tingra repeatedly said that it's not gonna work that voudou way. :idea: :wink:

But neither did she say HOW it worked when it worked ... as "it" is retired by now. :?


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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Eginolf wrote:
You're on D-lay in LA?


Uh, yeah... GMT-8...

Tingra repeatedly said that it's not gonna work that voudou way. :idea: :wink:

Eginolf wrote:
But neither did she say HOW it worked when it worked ... as "it" is retired by now. :?


Well, then I don't know what all the fuss is about...

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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010 7:26 pm 
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Fuss is the last thing needed.


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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"Processió de la Resurrecció:
Té lloc el matí del diumenge de Pasqües a Illa i a Ceret segons un ritual immutable."

Guess we'll have to wait til next year.


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010 7:40 pm 
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"Procession of Resurrection":
Takes place Sunday morning Easter Island as a ritual Ceret and immutable. "


we'd better man the oars now guys...google translate says we've a lot of kilometers to cover :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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:lol:

yeah machine translated Catalan tends to come out rather comical on the other end.

Shall i attach the wolfshead to the prow?


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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Sheila wrote:
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"Procession of Resurrection":
Takes place Sunday morning Easter Island as a ritual Ceret and immutable. "


we'd better man the oars now guys...google translate says we've a lot of kilometers to cover :shock:


Easter Island? Shall we follow the old Templar route out of La Rochelle...?

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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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Wait...wait... this is all starting to come together now...

Image

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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010 7:56 pm 
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You're a genius TCP, I don't care what they say about you! Of course the faces are similar ergo they are of the same race!


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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ensuring a pure, sin-free soul i suppose.....but a retracting of sin would be necessary... surely.


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010 8:00 pm 
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Thorstein wrote:
You're a genius TCP, I don't care what they say about you! Of course the faces are similar ergo they are of the same race!


Irish, from the looks of it! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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Sheila wrote:
ensuring a pure, sin-free soul i suppose.....but a retracting of sin would be necessary... surely.


Pray it away, or pay it away? Surely therein lies the conundrum...

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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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Le même notaire ne représente pas le vendeur et l'acheteur, j'espere?


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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I think they take it.


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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La Sanch style themselves as psychopomps; "soul conductors"....remember, they demanded exclusivity with regard to the bodies of condemned people.....


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A Voodoo cosmogram acts as a "beacon" for a type of spirit when used during their rituals.

it seems that in the course of these ceremonies ....the reproduction of the astral forces represented by the vévé obliges the spirit to descend to earth.

These cruciforms, which are common in Vodou sacred arts, borrow their outward form from Catholicism, or from something with it's roots in a far older tradition and their deep meaning from the cosmic symbol called 'Four Moments of the Sun'....just like the "crista" which if you remember has been described as ' the sun on it's horizon'.
The basic form of this cosmogram is a simple cross with one line representing the boundary between the living world and that of the dead, and the other representing the path of power from below to above, as well as the vertical path across the boundary.People who use these objects control the spirits of the cosmos connecting the living with the powers of the dead. We have Legba the god of the crossroads; he who opens the road to the spirit world. No Loa/spirit of the dead, is allowed to enter into the worshippers unless he has Legba's permission. This is because he holds the key to the gate separating the humans' world and the world of the gods.

....he is the master linguist, the trickster, warrior, and the personal messenger of destiny. He is the intermediary between the Loa and humanity. He stands at a spiritual crossroads and gives (or denies) permission to speak with the spirits. He is always the first and last spirit invoked in any ceremony because his permission is needed for any communication between mortals and the spirit of the dead - he opens and closes the doorway. .....the god of the crossroads.

....cobbled together from some notes but you get the point i'm trying to make.


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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Sheila wrote:
La Sanch style themselves as psychopomps; "soul conductors"....remember, they demanded exclusivity with regard to the bodies of condemned people.....


Do they now? Do you have a source to back that up? :lol:

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Sheila wrote:
A Voodoo cosmogram acts as a "beacon" for a type of spirit when used during their rituals.

it seems that in the course of these ceremonies ....the reproduction of the astral forces represented by the vévé obliges the spirit to descend to earth.

These cruciforms, which are common in Vodou sacred arts, borrow their outward form from Catholicism, or from something with it's roots in a far older tradition and their deep meaning from the cosmic symbol called 'Four Moments of the Sun'....just like the "crista" which if you remember has been described as ' the sun on it's horizon'.
The basic form of this cosmogram is a simple cross with one line representing the boundary between the living world and that of the dead, and the other representing the path of power from below to above, as well as the vertical path across the boundary.People who use these objects control the spirits of the cosmos connecting the living with the powers of the dead. We have Legba the god of the crossroads; he who opens the road to the spirit world. No Loa/spirit of the dead, is allowed to enter into the worshippers unless he has Legba's permission. This is because he holds the key to the gate separating the humans' world and the world of the gods.

....he is the master linguist, the trickster, warrior, and the personal messenger of destiny. He is the intermediary between the Loa and humanity. He stands at a spiritual crossroads and gives (or denies) permission to speak with the spirits. He is always the first and last spirit invoked in any ceremony because his permission is needed for any communication between mortals and the spirit of the dead - he opens and closes the doorway. .....the god of the crossroads.

....cobbled together from some notes but you get the point i'm trying to make.


Does La Sanch have a chapter in Port-au-Prince? :lol:

Are you sure you're not perhaps confusing Vaudou with Vauderie...?

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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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why does this statue of Baal remind me of the penitent hat and the john gesture? or am i way out there?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Baal_ ... O17330.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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Hi, i think your statue of Baal the storm god has lost it's club... somewhere... sometime... somehow.


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 Post subject: Re: LA SANG
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hmmm...
what does his 'club' look like? :-)

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