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Yo!.....jb...turn the computer off & go hug a friend eh?

Happy New Year,
S xx

I don't really hug people, but you have fun. Glad I solved Giza before the year was out. The involvement of Zeta Hydrae was not obvious. Sirius being just a little above the horizon at the time was a distraction. Glad I found the real key. I was off by four centuries with my last version of the Giza solution. I don't know why the carbon dating gave such early dates. Maybe because they got their charcoal making wood from the Nile and it was saturated with partly decayed organic matter that lived centuries before. Or maybe they put Nile mud in the mortar and it was the mud that gave the early dates. Mud would have been decaying for centuries.

Khufu was a cool guy.

He had a nifty cartouche with little birdies in it.

Ralph Ellis gives his interpretation of Khufu in his book " Eden in Egypt" on pages 182-184. Very interesting. Lori

I thought before that the Sphinx may have depicted Khufu instead of Khafre but I guess it probably is Khafre. I think he had the head changed to his from a lion's head though. This image shows how the Sphinx head fits perfectly into a lion's head.

Love that image jb.......I'll go with that...so far.

What does this image bring to mind then...all you Egyptian scholars out there!

Djed pillar, which itself represents the backbone of Osiris?

First bit correct, second bit wrong....well done jb, you've got a quick eye for things!

No, that's what the Djed pillar represents, backbone of Osiris.

"Chapter 155 of the Book of the Dead associates the Djed with the backbone and vertebrae of Osiris. Budge states that the oldest form of his spinal column was probably represented by part of the back bone with portions of the ribs attached to it. He suggests that as time went on it was drawn on a stand with a broadened base to form what we see as the Djed."
http://www.pyramidofman.com/Djed/

So what's that thing you posted the image of?

Hmmmm....not necessarily to be taken literally....what does the modern photo show by the way....do you see the similarity?

Good web page that you posted, very good..I'm going to keep that one on file.

Looks like the top of a Swingball...

The human backbone has 33 vertebrae, the number of the highest order of Freemasonry.

The main ceremony involving the Djed was the "Raising of the Djed".

Typically, the Djed is shown with an image of the sun at its base, so presumably the raising of the Djed involved the raising of the "sun" up the Djed, which represented the human backbone.

Or is that a few steps too far.


jb, your superimposed images are fascinating. If this is extended to include the other pyramids at the same scale and orientation, do they match with the same accuracy?

It's just those ones. The project appears to have been limited to Snefru and Khufu. Khafre got in on it by using the Second Pyramid temple as his own.

RM

You mentioned in another post that

I have also pondered upon the repetitious use of seven in mythology, and having read this thread I believe that my thoughts on the subject may have some relevance to jb's excellent discovery.

My research has always suggested that the myriad mythical appellations attached to seven had some ritual significance. I've always leaned towards the heliacal rising of the pleiades because this was used to time the sacrificial act, but I now see that jb may have another solution because Polaris just happens to have seven stars! So a number of questions spring to mind; the first relating to whether polaris was used to align any other ritual edifices, such as temples and tombs, and are their any mythical sevens associated with the establishment of these sacred place?

John

well, you probably already know this...but there is an aligning to the north in some cemetaries and to the east in others...and well, maybe to all four...eight...???

777 is a number often used in forum id...

all of me,
paula

you may also wish to research gematria and its various forms...

looking forward to your article!

all of me,
paula

Last night was a very strange night for me ....

I read jb's link http://www.pyramidofman.com/Djed/
Be sure to scroll down as far as the animated gold image and read the large paragraph above and the the large print sentences below that image.
I then went on to http://www.pyramidofman.com/Osiris-Djed.htm and as I was reading the first two paragraphs I saw the Djed as a tree with branches sticking out each side. I saw a man climbing the tree. It put me in mind strongly of Jacob climbing his ladder.

After posting above I visited The Daily Grail and read an article just put up by Paul Devereux on the evolution of man's consciousness.
http://www.dailygrail.com/features/paul-devereux-a-new-eleusis
Read the last paragraph if nothing else.

Then I scrolled down to the links on the right hand side of that page and clicked on the 'The stones of the end of the world' link in the Rennessence box. It takes you to http://www.perillos.com/worldend.html and describes a set of seven stones that are said to be destined to merge into one at the end of the world.

This 'merging', or 'melding' put me in mind of St Anthony in his cave and his raising of his consciousness which transformed the demons he had, plus the seven colours of the rainbow that we are told in Le Serpent Rouge meld together to produce white, plus the "sun" rising up Osiris' backbone to take his soul closer to Ra, plus Jacob climbing the ladder to talk with God, plus the Rosicrucians with their seven stage purification process with the Holy Spirit across the lintel of their door, plus the Tree of Life, the mistletoe, the all-heal being depicted in a Somerset chuch right in front of the altar with the two witnesses of the transfiguration looking down. So with all this whirling round my flu-addled brain I went to bed and saw how it all fitted together.

I woke at 3pm this afternoon and as I was having breakfast listened to a talk given as part of the BBC's celebration of Darwin's centenary. A scientist was reading a letter he had written to Darwin telling him of the latest advances in the understanding of evolution and I thought "No, we don't understand it at all, but maybe we're beginning to".

I revised my pyramids azimuth and positioning theory just now. I now believe that they used the vertical alignment of Betelgeuse and Alnitak, in Orion, as a reference for South. Here's the page address again http://egyptmysteries.blogspot.com/

Any Zechariah Sitchin fans out there? He says that the glyphs written in red way up in the ceiling structure of the interior of the Great Pyramid were written by the archaeologist who then became famous because of them.
Do any of you believe that the Sphinx is Antediluvian? - from before the Great Flood?

Renne,

The first bit of your question is talked about on page 1 of this thread.
The answer to your second part is Yes.

Yes, I read the intro. posts about the red glyphs in the Great Pyramid, was that reference from Sitchin or do others say that as well - that the archaeologist wrote them up there? That must have been quite a climb to get up there into the ceiling.
Have you heard that there is a room beneath the paw of the Sphinx? (I love that lion-head Sphinx photo.) I think it`s from Edgar Cayce. I have a friend who feels like he`s destined to excavate under there but Hiwass and the Egyptian govt. disagree.
Antediluvian - right!

The purported builder of the Great Pyramid get a much poorer press in ancient Egypt.

The wikipedia article on Khufu (yeah, I know) mentions a Middle Kingdom papyrus (The Westcar Papyrus) which portrays Khufu as 'mean and cruel'. http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/pyramidlegends.htm

Be Well,
Bob Griffin

The Khufu cartouches are real. The Howard Vyse forgery theory has been thoroughly discredited http://doernenburg.alien.de/alternativ/ ... yr03_e.php

It's possible that there were two different Pharaohs called Khufu though. Manetho's Kings list has two Pharaohs named Suphis/Soufis (another name for Khufu, apparently) ruling successively or even as co-regents for some of that time. The earlier one was probably the builder of the Great Pyramid whose cartouche was left there.