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Cerris, Cerris, Cerris, tsk, tsk....... Isn't it time to give this a rest? I bet everyone is getting quite bored of this, I know I am.

Hi Tank, no denials then, how very interesting. I guess that we are right on the money with our theory after all, another Oak Island mystery solved.

By the way this discussion thread is about the alerting the public to the artificial swamp of Oak Island and as such it is on topic, if you do not wish to continue to discuss the claims of the owners why not prove that absence makes the heart grow fonder and take a hike.

Cerris

Cerris,

Do I detect a note of sarcasm?



I would rather proove that familiarity breeds contempt as you so willingly offer yourself up as poster boy for.

The Administrator's recent post of rules as a sticky in each topic is because oakislandtreasure is such a friendly positive atmosphere.



Robert N's posts are to do with fairy tale sounding stories. Could anyone get the facts straight from a society using a roadside pirate and flags for an Oak Island attraction?

Your society's promotion with a roadside wooden pirate and not a single Oak Island pirate artifact on display is false advertising

How many of your visitors were lured by themes of pirates and then included as a statistic to the government?

Yeah, why don't you have some pirate stuff in the place? Would it kill ya to put on a nice tasteful 3D Pirates of Oak Island movie show? All you need to do is rent a pirate ship and go out in Mahone Bay with a 3D camera and have Tank be Captain Nasty, the scalawagiest of all the scalawags who sailed the 7 seas. Then film them going up to Oak Island. Then cut to a set of the Oak Island giant Oak Tree with the pirates digging at the ground. Make sure to poke things toward the camera, like swords and shovels. It'll be cool in 3D.
After the show, there can be refreshments and musical entertainment in the Captains Quarters, licensed dining room, which is modeled after the inside of a pirate ship.

YouTube footage already shows 'Oak Island' pirates digging up the inscribed stone. Re-created for the masses and to further build on the romantic notion of pirates as a deceptive lure.

bob_i, JB,

Well, the two of you didn't really do your homework this time. If either one of you had taken the time to actually go to EOID '07, you would have seen that there was a pirate display set up with folks in costume, actual/ replicas of pirate weaponry, etc.

So much for your 'false advertising'.

Indy

bob_1,



As I suspect you have never made a constructive post there, it behooves me that you are so sensitve and critical to an administrator working hard to keep her web site as good as it is.




Well now, aren't we upset by a total lack of information on your part. Why don't you come to EOID as Indiana Jones suggests and see for yourself?

It is soooo easy to be critical. It is also very hard to actually roll up your sleeves to make something happen for your community.

Indy,

Authentic Oak Island pirate artifacts right? Your comment above proves my point and clearly illustrates the deception at play. What else did not come from Oak Island but put on display?

Bob_I



That was the only thing. Everything else was either maps, artifacts from past excavations, and many newspaper clippings.

Indy

I don't see what's wrong with using the popular theme of pirates to attract people to the OI area. Pirates did frequent Mahone Bay and may well have buried a treasure or two on Oak Island. Although it seems unlikely to me that pirates were responsible for the MP, that idea has some popularity with the public. Why not give people what they want?

Hi bob_I, Danny Hennigar aka Tank publically stated that he does not believe pirates like Captain William Kidd were ever on Oak Island, I agree that he is a hypocrite with all that pirate display stuff you mentioned, that is definately a deception. In the pictures that were taken of one of their EXPLOIT Oak Island Day meetings, there he is all dressed up in his impressive pirate gear branishing his cutlass, his buddy Blankenship also attended yet he totally refutes the pirate theory. a little conflict of interest there I'm thinking.

D'Arcy O'Conner (the rehash writer who seems to have cloned The Big Dig again) believes a 500 ton Spainish Galleon with an eighteen foot draft could sail into Smith Cove containing about a three foot depth of water, he gave a lecture to - criticize other peoples theories:lol: don't you just love it.

David Tobias told me that he believed there was nothing in Borehole 10X because Dan only found it doing a random divining search with a forked stick.

Dan Blankenship (who believes there is/was no treasure in the Money Pit) signed an agreement with me/us to share in treasure we believe is on Fred's property, Tobias was not included.

Tobias tried in vain to do a confidential deal with Nolan, Dan was not involved.

David Tobias who believes the 9ft high 300ft long bank of earth along the Detour Road is natural, in spite of paying experts he rejected their expensive report that it is a man made construction.

Dan Blankenship however firmly believes the bank of earth is artificial like the pond and swamp, he later signed an agreement with us to share in Fred's treasure I/we believe is hidden below his pond/swamp property.

D'Arcy does not believe in the Cryptic Message stone himself but happily draws one up for a tv show and even enters the unproved story in his book. He actually even then attributed the wrong decyphered message to the University professor who's name escaped him, you couldn't make it up They probably need to make another replica stone now the first one must be worn out.

A sign saying "The Money Pit" pit (it was actually filled in) was outrageuosly left placed at the different location of the "Heddan Shaft" for YEARS. It deceaved the hundreds of trusting tourist looking down the old shaft with it's rotting timbers who were informed by the nice sign that it was the famous mysterious Money Pit.

The biggest deception of all is that Danny Hennigar (Tank) who is a director of the OITS and his dozy buddy D'Arcy O'Conner do not want the public to know that Nolan and blankenship have proof that the pond and swamp are artificial.

If you have the time go and check out my locked topics on the OI treasure website that supporters of the OITS systematicatly attacked and eventually had shut down. Three topics that had amassed over 60,000 view hits muzzled by morons, and for what I did not swear or start arguments. Those made guys were allowed to smear, libel and use foul abuse to me with complete impunity and were exempt from any penalties because the owner/administrator Ms Joanna Atherton is also a member of the OITS, get the picture. When I had enough I left her bias website (or I should say Henningar's OITS now) and she may have had a few inquiries about me so she probably had to justify her actions in locking my threads when I did not breach the forum guidlines.

Deceptions? what deceptions?

Cerris

Got a name for that pirate or anything which says a pirate may have hidden a single coin on Oak Island?

Fiction authors can give people what they want. The Exploit Oak Island Society should be offering the substantiated truth or verified facts. Why? Because they are asking your government for funding and using the attendance of lured folks as substantiation.

I think Cerris has your answer.

D'Arcy

Bob_1,

I ask you again, this affects you how?

These comments smack of subversion and I expect you post these destructive remarks simply to inflame and cause trouble, no other reason well, maybe jealousy.

If you are so concerned about this, then why don't you call me directly on the phone and make your point to me in private instead of postulating here on this questionable forum in public?

You claim to be local, so call me and lets get this ironed out. Surely you are not scared of me are you?

Cerris,

Yawn.... The only people who are interested in your paranoid rants are, well, no one.

Good, solid, two way conversation about Oak Island is available here: www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk

No, there's no evidence of pirate involvement with Oak Island but pirates are fun. Not in real life, of course, but as a tourist attracting theme. The Pirates of the Caribbean movies have made pirates into popular and relatively harmless characters. Few members of the general public find the actual facts about Oak Island particularly interesting, but they are certainly available for those who want them. What's the harm in saying that some pirate MAY have been involved with the Money Pit? There is no definitive proof that pirates WEREN'T involved, so why kill the golden goose?

Your society is petitioning for government funding, right?



Thank you for not denying the validity of my observations. You handle negative criticism typical for a person with an obsession.



I stated my observations and have no further point to make during a private call with you. I invite an explanation on this forum for your society’s use of pirates as an Oak Island attraction, when not a single piece of tangible evidence suggests this to be true. I recently read Dan Blankenship said no pirates were on Oak Island, so why does your society make it sound like they were?

You have boasted of possessing the real facts or truths about Oak Island, how about showing this forum you practice what you preach by explaining the use of pirates as an attraction?

Surely you are not scared of discussion on a public forum.

I don't think Andrew would appreciate his forum being referred to as "questionable". Apparently, Hennigar thinks that unless everyone on a forum accepts his stilted assessments of all Oak Island theories in existence as unsatisfactory, or worse, then the forum is questionable. Frankly, I find any forum in which such attitudes are condoned as REALLY questionable. If we accept Hennigar's statements on forums, there is no explanation for the Oak Island mystery at all. All fall short in the judgment of Mr. Hennigar, a man who has no record of ever having solved anything more complex than a Sunday News crossword puzzle. This is the self appointed judge of all things and people related to Oak Island in any way. I know cops think they are the almighty rulers of everyone else, but guess what, they ain't!

Bob_1,



You know we did and continue to. In fact, last year we received some more. It may come as a complete shock to you, but every volunteer group does and, we will ask for more again next year too. We would be remiss as an organization and irresponsible to our membership if we did not seek public funding.



Please, save your back room psychology for some one else.



I fear nothing from you, that you can take to the bank. On these very questionable forums, like this one, people like you are a dime a dozen. All you can do is hand out mean nasty comments purposely designed to inflame and upset, for no other reason.

I am very well schooled in the subject of Oak Island. I also believe that I am able to accept new or adjusted knowledge when it comes from reliable sources, I continue to seek out those sources. Oak Island knowledge is not a stagnant process, it is a learning curve that has to be nurtured and taken seriously as all historical subjects should. If that bothers you, then that is too bad for you.

If you can't see or understand why we use the pirate theme, then I won't be able to explain it to you.

I knew you wouldn't call me tonight. There is some of my back yard psychology at work.

Then why skirt my question with rhetoric filled drama? You apparently are the communications director for your society, so communicate a valid reply to a simple question.

Why does your society use a pirate theme attraction for Oak Island when no authentic pirate evidence has ever been found on the island?

Your reluctance to provide a valid answer speaks for itself and your society.

Hi Tank, it would appear that Bob_I is a bit more intelligent than the useual sycophantic ingratiates who suck up to you on the O I Treasure website, what a shock to the system that must be for you, someone you can't buy or control.

Could it be that your ace card of being able to get PAYING OITS members and PAYING tourist on the island is getting to be not quite the irresistible carrot it was in the past.

JB is quite right, who the hell are you to pass judgement on anyones theory, why not leave this convienient source of recruitment for your website and come back and see us when you have a theory in print.

Don't kid yourself, you are merely a local amature tour guide with delusions of grandure, face it, even in your exalted position as OITS director you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Shame about Joanna, I did warn her not to be seduced by the dark side.

Fred Nolan has rejected all your attempts to get him to join your setup and play ball on your terms, he wont even answer your phone calls right, I suppose it's because he doesn't he know that your a real bigshot director.

If Andrew's website is so "questionable" old son why stay here, we wouldn't miss people like D'Arcy O'Conner who used obsene langauge in his post and you who smugly repeated it. Your nasty personal remark about me being mentally il is your standard insult when you are taking heat and looseing face, I'm not the one who likes to dress up sir - you are.

And while we are at it please stop sending me private messages and repeatedly inviting me to join your lucrative little OTS setup, I've told you publicly that if we can raise the funding to finance our project I am going to freeze you and O'Conner out in a heartbeat.

If we succeed in retrieveing treasure I will give give a lecture of the real Oak Island story to anyone who are NOT members of the OITS or who ever have been, oh and that exclusion also includes a totally inept moron who writes the same old boreing rubbish and is living on the past glory of his only half decent book.

I have in my previous post told the truth, by calling those statements I made "paranoid rants" are you publically calling me a liar, if you are disputing those disclosures supply proof, put up or shut up.

Cerris

Please excuse my giggles as I try to follow the debate.

On one side we have Cerris (Tank's sworn arch enemy) insisting that he has "proof" that Kidd and Avery (both pirates) deposited the OI treasure, and on the other side we have bob_1 insisting that no pirates were ever involved with the deposit. So we have both of them attacking the OITS for opposite reasons. Does Cerris agree with Bob, or does he agree with Tank on this issue?

Ya gotta love this thread! If for nothing more than its quixotic humor.

D'Arcy

Attack seems like a strong word to describe a valid observation.

Another point of view is that Tank just lashes out at anyone who does not march to his beat.

Why does your society use a pirate theme attraction for Oak Island when no authentic pirate evidence has ever been found on the island?

bob_1,

Call me at home if you want to discuss the Society. I will not entertain anything from you about it here in this forum.

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