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 Post subject: Alturnative Oak Island Island theories.
PostPosted: 20 Jun 2007 12:30 pm 
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Hi guys, my name is Cerris Francis and I am an English treasure hunter/researcher who has completed a thirty year in depth study of all aspects of Oak Island. What is refered to as my revelations is essentually several first that I have put in the public domain for nothing, I don't ask to be believed but I would politely ask you to remember who told you FIRST and for FREE.

How credible am I ? well eight years ago in two phone calls from England I achieved the impossible by talking (about my theories and recovery plans) to two men who hated each other and they agreed to work together for the first time. After previously rejecting hundreds of other offers/theories Dan Blankenship said yes, Fred Nolan said no and sadly David Tobias (who called the shots) said - no.

The deal I and my associate Lionel Fanthorpe offered the then president of the Triton Alliance was 50% free of charge of Treasure we the Oak Island Revelations Team would recover from Mr Nolans property in return for permenant causeway access for him and an end to any further litigation issues, he rejected our proposal with distain and both myself and Fred felt slighted.

I used to post on the website Oak Island Treasure which in my view is too supportive of the OITS now. I naively thought by conducting myself with decourum for several years I could voice my own alturnative theories, after two of my threads were locked because some members of the OITS didn't like them I left. Some of my topics recorded over twenty thousand viewing hits so anything I posted that contradicted the theories of Dan Blankenship or exposed perpetuated deceptions was unpopular with Mr Hennigar's club, when Jo Atherton became a member of the OITS as far as I was concerned she had been "seduced by the the dark side".:lol: and her website corrupted by a virous.

I don't want this to be perceaved as a soapbox tirade or enter the agitator because in truth I only cross swords in retaliation, I don't tell lies and although my theories are open question, my integrity is not. To see what I am all about please check my website below, I was going to update it but as I am seeking a recovery contract I thought I'd wait for something interesting to tell you all. :wink: If you ask my opinion you will get an honest answer but be carefully what you wish for, I am happy to agree to differ because theories are like fingerprints, viva la difference.

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 Post subject: Independent Researchers
PostPosted: 20 Jun 2007 2:41 pm 
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Hi Cerris

Your research is welcome I know how Oak Island Organizations can be with new therories and the people that you mentioned that have been seduced with dark thinking, me and my friends are researchers and one of my friends discovered the Birch Island triangle.

I am glad that you made this post and hope more independent researchers find a common place to gather I think long time Oak Island organizations make that imposible Cerris you are a breath of fresh air and I am hoping more independent Oak Island researcher show up.

Danny & Joanna can be bullies with outsiders I am glad there are people that stand up to them I thought I was alone, people are realizing they are corrupt with seduced dark matter like you said that spreads like a virus.

I am crusading for more independent treasure hunters to do research and not get harrassed by these so called treasure hunters that boast that they are the leading researchers into the money pit I have seen nothing from them to support that claim.

So Glad to meet you I support you as a researcher and hope to get to know your Oak Island Theories.


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Cerris,

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I used to post on the website Oak Island Treasure which in my view is too supportive of the OITS now.


Riddle me this, old son: You're an Oak Island enthusiast, yet you're against a pro-Oak Island forum and society why?

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PostPosted: 20 Jun 2007 10:13 pm 
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Crusader,

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Cerris you are a breath of fresh air


Not for long. It's too bad he won't tell you the real reason his two threads were locked down.

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 Post subject: Straight answers.
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2007 1:08 am 
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Hi Indiana Jones, you ask why I am against a pro Oak Island forum, in the first place I have been an active member of the O I treasure website forum for several years, what has changed now is that the administrator Joanna has joined the OITS, freedom of speech is ok now providing it is not detrimental to the OITS interest..

Oak Island has been like a war zone for many years with the two old warriors Nolan and Blankenship disliking each other. In the Blankenship camp you have his good friend Danny Hennigar (Tank) and the amateur OITS that he runs, and now Joanna's website. It might interest you to know Indiana that when Tank was setting up one of their early shows Fred Nolan was not invited and when I offered to send a specially made DVD as a leture on my theories I was slighted, I guess they would have contradicted Dan's theories and they had to keep him sweet for tours on the island.

Tank has been persistantly trying to orchestrate a reconciliation between Nolan and Blankenship that Fred does not need or want, he will not even answer Mr Hennigar phone calls. Fred Nolan considers the OITS administraters to be bias in favour of Blankenship and that is a fact, I share that opinion.

In the two post that were locked I did not breach the forum rules in any way but my theories contradicted what the blankenship side wished to say and my threads drew a lot of interest.

General Discussion.
1. THE TREASURES LOCATION. page 4. LOCKED?
2. The Faked Cryptic Message Stone. page 5. LOCKED?

Little known facts. Dan Blankenship does not believe there was ever treasure in the Money Pitand that the stone was faked, he believes that it is down in Borehole 10X, so how come I/we have a signed document by Blankenship that acknowledges treasure on Nolans property.

There is a lot you don't know about what goes on behind the scenes but you can be sure I will tell you the truth.

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 Post subject: dnt'..dnt' dnt' dnt' da' dah'''Thee Eye Of The Triangle'
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2007 4:32 am 
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dnt'..dnt' dnt' dnt' da' dah'''Thee Eye Of The Triangle'
Cerris
Oak Island Lunacy
The Dan Fred Dan Triangle, seems like its a vicious cycle the Oak Island dirty laundry is getting thrown out on the street’ I guess people don’t like getting pushed around, I bet this conniving has been going on for centuries. This is just hi-tech conniving NOW this is why I don’t take peoples word when they use people’s negitive accounts on the Money pit stone, Oak Island has always been like this and probably worse in the past. My friend works in the media and he said this is one of the reasons they don’t get involved with any stories about Oak Island people are at each other throats' just plain lunacy going on alkinds of people are going to bust open soon like a Pandora’s box I think this one theory kick things off.
http://www.mythandmystery.com/birch_island_arrow.jpg
I think things are just getting started with the craziness?
stay tuned.

If it was'nt for the computer' I think people would be walking around Oak Island with black eyes :lol: :lol:

'Birch Island Triangle fever'

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 Post subject: It will not happen.
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2007 10:38 am 
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Hi crusader, you probably are aware that David Tobias sold up and withdrew his interest in Oak Island, when that point came up in one of my previous discussions with Fred he commented, "One down - one to go". :lol: That remark about sums up Fred's feeling for Blankenship who once threatend to shoot him dead and whose whistle blowing actions later almost ruined Fred and his familys business interest.

One harsh winter when the sea froze over clear out to the Island Fred had to walk across dangerous ice in order to get to and from his property, or risk getting shot trying to cross the private causeway.

Did you know that many years ago Fred Nolan actually offered to give his newly purchased plots free of charge to Mel Chappel in return for the right to invest in a Money Pit project. The friendly gesture was rejected with distain, big mistake, the treasure is actually under one of those plots, not in the Money Pit or Borehole 10X.

Cerris

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PostPosted: 21 Jun 2007 11:14 am 
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Cerris,

Well, 'tis a shame you feel the way you do towards the OITS and the Oak Island Treasure Forum, but to each his own.

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PostPosted: 21 Jun 2007 11:18 am 
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Ah, Cerris, i'm so glad you've found a new opportunity to tell people where they heard the truth first and for free. I have one request, however; If you remember, we started a project on the OITF called "The good, the Bad and the Ugly: A fistful of Dullards". Now this exciting new novel based upon real characters and events have had a slight decline in inspiration lately, so i was wondering if you could come back someday and post something, so that the novel can be finished? I really don't think the story is working properly without one of the main characters!


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 Post subject: Birds of a feather flock together.
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2007 2:36 pm 
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Hi morpho, I note that you are a researcher, would that be on the subject of Oak Island? :)

If you are inspired by the literary masterpieces of D'Arcy O'Conner (a mere recorder of failed treasure hunting attempts) and Danny Hennigar (tour guide) you must have enough riviting Oak Island enlightenments to write on the back of almost two postage stamps. :lol:

I don't sell tickets, badges or rehashed books, I just alert people what I believe to be the truth based on logic, no charge, now if certain people and their confederates with ulterier motives don't like it, tough.

Oak Island is not only seeped in mystery but sadly also mendacity, myths are perpetuated and illogical conjecture is still being implied and presented to the unsuspecting public as fact. I tried to counter this and found two of my topics locked, no I won't be returning if I can't be afforded freedom of speech.

Morpho, when you go fluttering back to the OITS website and you bring back the other birds of a feather ask them to come with an answer to this question, what the purpose of the Money Pit? If they don't know they don't have opinions to express, still I'm sure you know the answer right researcher, by the way I do already know the answer but I just like to see those so called experts squirm.

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 Post subject: peeve
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2007 4:11 pm 
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David Tobias I am familiar with him, he said one down one to go mmmm Tobias is getting up there or he is all ready there? I guess they are like snails in a salt throwing contest.
I think it is also a outrage when I hear about the OITS selling memberships, badges, counterfeit coins annual fees ect.. I am just wondering where does all this money go it’s a peeve but that’s another story that is messed up?

Fred Nolan I think he is a fascinating treasure hunter Keith Ranville believes his property has some amazing Oak Island information? The large stones has certain mystic properties, and the skullstone has images on as Keith pointed out and posted on the web.

I think Oak Island treasure hunters spend more time insulting arguing badgering each other than doing actually treasure hunting. So Cerris oakislandtreasure locked your thread I wouldn’t loose any sleep over it, its best not to post there anyways there if you look at posts there now there are offensive threads there that personal attack Keith Ranville I told Keith to stay away from there in the first place a couple years back that place is messed up, look at Keith now and see what those guy’s and girl are doing to Keith now although he is finally getting his work appreciated and those guys are still waving there fist in the air watching keith's treasure hunting journey is a learning tool that every Oak Island researcher should take notice for there own good, Cerris or any other treasure hunter, down the line if you get notoriety remember that place will attack your treasure hunting theory, them shutting down your thread doesn’t seem that bad if you look at other peoples horror stories about the place, or maybe your horror story is just begining.

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PostPosted: 21 Jun 2007 4:22 pm 
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Morpho79

what does the F in OITF stand for?

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Cerris,
you can be quite funny when you're a bit cooled down:) Anyway, i just wanted to get some input from the man who inspired the don Serious-character starring in the latest and breathtaking Oak Island novel: "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly: A Fistful of Dullards", i didn't say i was gonna act as your personal messagepigeon; if you have something to say to the people at OITF, you can say it yourself. Personally, i think you have a lot of nothing to say, but sometimes it makes a great story:)

Crusader,
seeing you are a man who enjoys a mystery, i think you should find that one out for yourself:)


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 Post subject: Keith Ranville
PostPosted: 22 Jun 2007 11:45 pm 
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Hi Crusader, although I can't agree with Keith Randal's theories I do admire his enthusiasm and self belief, if anyone sincerely believes in their theory it's right that they should try to profit from it.

Some people (no names) knowing perpetuate myths by implying fiction to be fact, it's totally unacceptable to deceave the public who are trusting them. I previously exposed this practice sometime taking on four or five OITS members at a time, it was embarrising really with the odds stacked so much in my favour. :lol:

Did you know when D'Arcy constructed the copy of the Cryptic Message they also needed to show The Money Pit shaft, the problem was it had been filled in. Guess what, they made a Money Pit signpost and stuck it by - the Gilbert Hedden shaft, it was left there for years :? consequently thousands of TV viewers and tourist have been deceived.

It is also a fact that the people who have attacked me most in the past on the OITS website forum have their own websites, plan to write books or make money. I normally just tried to disengage by offering to agree to disagree, however if attacks got personal it was no more mr nice guy. :wink:

By the way not all my threads were locked, "Oak Island Revelations" (20,663 viewing hits) "The Spyglass Inn" the pirate haven, (22.435) "No treasure was stored in the Money Pit" (2. 501)

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 Post subject: cerris
PostPosted: 23 Jun 2007 12:08 am 
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Cerris wrote:
It is also a fact that the people who have attacked me most in the past on the OITS website forum have their own websites, plan to write books or make money. I normally just tried to disengage by offering to agree to disagree, however if attacks got personal it was no more mr nice guy. :wink:


Cerris


So Cerris you must be a long time Oak Island oak island observer, the oits website must be problematic to many people in the past? Is it a bully systeme if you talk your opinion against them thay take personal revenge tactics against you? I am glad some can speak honestly about Oak Island.

I also think they personal attack on the intellegent guy!

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 Post subject: Cluck Cluck
PostPosted: 23 Jun 2007 12:37 am 
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Hi Morpho, come clean, what are you researching? or is the OITS stool pidgeon really just a little chicken. :wink:

Me cool down, if I was any more laid back I be a rocking chair. :D

I have nothing to say to your bore guide Crank because we have different conceptions of what constitutes integrity and impartialty and the only way I would wish to converse with Dozy Old Conman is through a medium I paid. :lol:

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Well Cerris,
since i don't have your vivid imagination, i'm "researching" the Bacon\Dee-connection to oak island, i am also looking at rosicrusianism in general, not necessarily connected to OI. In any case, i am mainly working on a new chapter of the previously mentioned novel, so i am glad i found you again. I just wish you could tell me something new, or at least something old in a new way:)


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 Post subject: is cerris serious
PostPosted: 23 Jun 2007 10:55 am 
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Cerris wrote:
Hi Crusader, although I can't agree with Keith Randal's theories I do admire his enthusiasm and self belief, if anyone sincerely believes in their theory it's right that they should try to profit from it.

Cerris


Hi again Cerris

You say you don’t agree with Keith Ranville’s theory and that is your opinion and view and respected, as you made this thread and mentioned you were in the midst of a recovery of sorts in regards to the Oak Island mystery? Can you elaborate on your theory and is it as, or if not more interesting than Mr. Ranville’s well publicized Oak Island treasure theory?

Why I ask, this is the first that I ever heard of you and I am sure that goes for many other inquirers, I just don’t want to continue the climax of your lengthily introduction and find out its some kind put on? Or disappointment, you sound intelligent hopefully your theory can trump Mr. Ranville’s theory or disprove his findings or his theory like wise the same to your unknown relativities.

It sure would be interesting for another theory to keep Mr. Ranville’s theory company.

Sincerely

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 Post subject: Re: Keith Ranville
PostPosted: 23 Jun 2007 8:02 pm 
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Cerris wrote:
Did you know when D'Arcy constructed the copy of the Cryptic Message they also needed to show The Money Pit shaft, the problem was it had been filled in. Guess what, they made a Money Pit signpost and stuck it by - the Gilbert Hedden shaft, it was left there for years :? consequently thousands of TV viewers and tourist have been deceived.


Cerris:

You must really do your homework before you start spouting some "did you know" nonsense. The "In Search of The Money Pit" ABC television docudrama which we made in Nova Scotia in July of 1979 didn't shoot a single frame on Oak Island. Nor could we have, since we were unable to get permission from Triton Alliance. It was produced by Alan Landsburg Productions of Los Angeles, with Leonard Nemoy hosting.

The director, Seth Hill, and I (as researcher and co-producer) spent a week in the area prior to shooting, selecting appropriate sites as well as hiring local people as excavators, carpenters, actors, prop and costume designers, plus chartering boats and a helicopter (and even a team of oxen). The "1795 discovery" sequence was shot under a huge Red Oak in the Martin's River graveyard; The "Money Pit" itself was dug (by backhoe) on an Indian Point lot to a depth of 40 feet (using camera techniques to make it look even deeper); and the "Smith's Cove" sequences were shot on the beach of an island just off Oakland. (All were assets that we rented for our shoot; and the interviews (such as with M.R. Chappell and George Bates) were shot on those locations. The "Inscribed Stone", as well as a few other props, were made by myself, Wayne Bohener, and a couple of his friends from Martin's River. None of us ever set foot on Oak Island during the 9-day shooting period.

As for the signpost by the Hedden Shaft, that has been there for about 33 years, ever since the Province of Nova Scotia began running tours on the island. So when you say that "thousands of TV viewers" (actually that particular segment in the "In Search of..." series numbered in the millions, including re-runs, according to Alan Landsburg) were deceived, all I can say is that there was obviously one poor soul from Southampton who clearly was deceived.

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I have a question for all those here who have Oak Island theories. How do you explain the position of the Money Pit? It's not midway between the two coves, which would be logical when flood tunnels were made from the Pit to each cove, and it's not on the highest ground, which would make the Pit deeper and further from the shoreline, thus harder to find. There doesn't seem to be any apparent reason to put it at that particular spot. So how do you explain that it is there instead of somewhere else? In fact, why is it not on the large main portion of the island, which has nice stable slate bedrock, instead of on the East end which has very dangerously unstable anhydrite?
In my opinion, if a person can't provide some kind of good reason for the position of the Pit, the rest of their theory is highly questionable. I say that spot was used because it was at a particular point of a large landscape based geometric construction which is actually centered on an unusually shaped formation of islands several miles South of Oak Island. Certain lines extended from that main geometric construction happen to intersect perfectly at the Money Pit site. This geometry was designed by the Rosicrucians of the late 16th-early 17th century, based on the constellation Cassiopeia, and is contained in an illustration from one of their important texts produced in 1618, as well as the Poussin painting Les Bergers d'Arcadie, which shows the constellations which surround Cassiopeia, the shepherdess being Andromeda, the shepherd in red being Perseus, the shepherd in blue being Cepheus and the shepherd in white being Cygnus. The exact geometric shape which is marked out by the Oak Island Cross is also contained in the same Rosicrucian print. I have to think this is a little more than mere coincidence.
To discredit this theory and thereby make yours appear more plausible, all you have to do is provide a credible alternative explanation for the position of the Pit and for the Oak Island Cross, which I can show to have been derived from the Kabbalistic figure known as the Tree of Life, a figure which was important to the Rosicrucians.
If your theory happens to involve pirates, you'll have to explain why a pirate would have an interest in constructing the Oak Island Cross. Though I started this post by emphasizing the reason for the position of the Pit, the subject of the Cross came up and reminded me that anyone with an Oak Island theory would also have to be able to explain THAT too. So that is my challenge. Explain both the position of the treasure pit and the reasoning behind the presence of the Oak Island Cross, if you can. If you can't do this, I really can't take your theories seriously.

Here's the graphic evidence for my theory. I shouldn't have to explain it verbally. Click on the thumbnails for full size.

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 Post subject: Money pit explanation
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From the research vault

The money pit position was made there on that particular area of the Island instead of higher ground was because of the purpose and design and the meaning of the money pit. The money pit needed soft settlement in order to create the pit, the laws of gravity made the money pit? This is why junk and heavy debris was only found below the 38.4meter level of the money pit. After the bottom of the money pit was formed a neighboring shaft was made in a similar way but it was made to expel the contents out of the money pit. The money pit was always flooded this was the mechanics and the concept of the money pit, as long as the foundation of the pit was made water between the cargo and man made bottom elevator lift was possible hydraulically? Now as for the getting out the contents out of the pit, the neighboring shaft was filled with metal weight and it created pressure below, beneath between the cargo and the man made foundation of the money pit the weight used was the amount of weight that was in-between each layers of logs that gave it lift. After each layer was removed with a pulley and rope at the surface, another layer surfaced like a pez dispenser?

Dirt and logs then filled the money pit with a message in one of the layers? because the content's were ritualistc and very important and a record of it's past needed to be recorded and it's where abouts.

Theory semi explained on Keith Ranville's interview eerie radio & xzone

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Wow, I think they're brothers!


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Jim thinks the Money Pit is a natural sinkhole. Yeah, that diagram Keith posted sure looks natural, Huh?


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I believe the idea of burying a valuable treasure in a 180 foot plus hole on a small island for safe-keeping is luducrous. Even if these 18th century builders of wooden ships could have had the technology, tools and manpower to accomplish the task, this tells me they must have been intelligent enough to understand the hazzards of such an operation. They could have never been certain their own traps would not fail, destroying everthing and they certainly could not overlook the fact that mother nature could at anytime render their efforts lost forever. Plus the fact that so many people would have had to been involved and they all kept their mouths shut. Not one chance in a million some one wouldn't talk. This and the fact there had to be people living and working inland when this massive project was being undertaken, how secure is that.

As for wood being found in a sink hole at various levels, ask anybody who has escavated a sink hole in this type of enviroment and you will find this is the rule, not the exception. And for this iffy evidence that seems to come forward time after time, it always strangly seems to be discovered right around the times funds a running low. How convenient. As for other stones and symbols found on the island, there is little evidence for when these were placed and for what purposes.

The fact is, at that point in time there would have been so many more safe and secure options available for hiding a treasure and securing it for later recovery, for anybody to even consider this as a viable option is not thinking clearly.


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 Post subject: Birch Island Triangle
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JIMMIES UN CLEAR EXPLAINATION IS SPECULATION :roll:

BIRCH ISLAND TRIANGLE

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Oak Island stone triangle diagram
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THREE DIMENSIONAL IMAGE OF THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF A PYRIMID
7 DEGREES OF NORTH

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