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Eyechart,

Like a lot of posters I have encountered over the years who have a venomous disregard for the printed word, you still refuse to answer my questions and instead, pass it off to the Joltes web site, that is pathetic. If you can’t stand behind your scurrilous claims, then don’t parrot other’s work. I now understand your position, you don’t have one, other than a curiously obtuse way of twisting words and firing off really weird allegations.



That’s right, it didn’t leak into the bay, you got it, and believe it or not, that is quite important. It leaked elsewhere proving a connection they hardly saw coming. I won’t bore you with where it showed up as I’m sure you will have a smart assed quip to add to it and it wouldn’t matter what I said, there is no proof in the world “eyechart the magnificent” will accept. I don’t have to look at the Woods Hole web site to know what they recorded in their findings on Oak Island, in fact, I have a copy of it right here.

One thing I should let you in on, organizations like Woods Hole who work for private funders are not likely to provide public copies of private work as that is frowned upon, it is called maintaining a level of confidentiality. That may be one reason why they did not publish the report.



Actually, the book I co authored is clearly not a serious treatise on the history of Oak Island you would know that if you bothered to have a look. Collectively, four of us donated our time and skills to set this up (three of us paid for it out of our own pockets) so the Oak Island Tourism Society could have a very unique fund raising scheme, and it has worked very well. You would be surprised to learn where that book has ended up, all over the world.

I have acted as consultant on one film, many radio shows, four books, dozens of newspaper articles and a few magazine stories. Like the aforementioned, the tours I do of Oak Island during Explore Oak Island Days is all done for free, I have not received a single penny for my time or efforts. However, I do conduct private presentations on the history of Oak Island, for a fee I may add, excepting for a few circumstances, like schools and not for profit groups who have no budget. I wish you were close enough to attend one, you may learn something and get a chance to ask me a few questions face to face instead of this nonsense you barrage me with. As for tips, the last one I received for doing work regarding Oak Island was in 1974 and to be honest, I don’t want any.



Thank God.

That you do not find Oak Island an interesting place is no skin of my nose. That you think every bit of it is a hoax is a shamefully uninformed opinion on your part and you should be ashamed of yourself for displaying your ignorance so publically. Finally, that you think people have been perpetuating known lies, making tons of money (lawyers excepted) and defrauding the public then the joke is on you. As the famous blues musician Dutch Mason used to say, “you can lead a horse to water, but it takes a big man to drown him.”

Anybody interested in translating these symbols? I have the alphabet but don't know how to post it on the website, can only do e-mails. I have the language but not the time. Will e-mail it to serious people only.

Sheila,

Check your PM's.

Regards,

Indy

Sheila,



This has been tried by many and it is basically a simple substitution code, but there is a problem. There is no way of knowing for sure that the symbols you see are exactly what was on the stone. There is little question the stone existed, but there is reason to suggest the inscription is as seen in many books is not accurate. There is no known photograph, tracing or copy of the stone's actual inscription.

The famous American author Edward Rowe Snow made an attempt at it, but his information was skewed and varies form others. There is a man from British Columbia Canada who recently made an attempt, but his information is poor to say the least and not at all credible.

I hope this post and the PPM from Indiana Jones helps you out.

'Scuse me for approaching this from a simple point of view, but the inscription is actually in a known alphabet, so whats all the big deal! The hard bit is knowing which way round/up the original stone should be read in.
Have posted off said alphabet to two of you guys who expressed an interest, lets see what they come up with!

Sheila,



The big deal would be exactly what I told you in my introductory post.

IF you have a "known alphabet" as you describe it, then why don't you share it with us all? To be brutally honest with you, and with all due respect, I have heard this type of bravado before, so lets see what you have.

Sheila

Here's the the true concept of the Money Pit Symbol's


Here's the old cipher


More Information
http://www.mythandmystery.com/oakisland ... nville.htm


"Why do they call it tourist season if we can't shoot them?"

I think "forty feet below two million pounds are buried" makes more sense. Even if someone could decipher the code as you showed, it would just confuse them. It makes no sense at all to me. Of course, the first version doesn't make much sense either because why tell people what is forty feet below? I don't think there is a sensible explanation for that code and therefore it is probably fake.

JB,

I agree, Crusader's translation (because we all know he's Keith) does not make one bit of sense to me either. However, I've pointed this out in another forum: if we consider for a second that Prof. Leitchi did in fact have the exact symbols to work with, and did in fact decode the cipher correctly, how do we know that 'forty feet below' was meant as 'forty feet below the Money Pit'? It could have been referencing thousands of locations on the island, and maybe not even on the island at all. But that's just purely hypothetical on my part, because noone even knows what the real symbols on the stone looked like, therefore we cannot really decode the cipher successfully or accurately.

Regards,

Indy

Indy,

Good assessment of the facts there.

I have long mulled over that stone and the inscription Leitchi left us with and I have often revisited the idea that maybe what we see is indeed what the stone looked like. Maybe those symbols are what were on the infamous stone.

One thing that really gives me reason to reflect is the use of the word "pounds" as in English "pounds." Certainly that means a British involvement of some sort and if I recall from some conversation at www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk from some time ago, the use of the word "pound" is not that old, not old enough to be a match for some of the carbon dating of the wood from the bowels of OI's bedrock.

This lends credence to those who suggest Oak Island has been visited on several occasions by more than one group who left their mark behind. I can't say that I a not intrigued by that suggestion.

Tank,



I too have often reflected upon that part of the translation. Was Leitchi British perhaps? It might account for the use of the word.

Regards,

Indy

Indy,



I don't know, I'll have to get into my files and see if that is recorded. There was a point in time when I wondered if Leitchi was for real and if he actually was a professor of languages at Dal, but his records have been found and he did teach there.

CRUSADER Says

Where are your explanations on Oak Island? besides a lot of contradiction's but no answers this is why nobodies are still nobodies.

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Indy,

I can't find a reference as to Liechti's place of birth so whether or not he was British is not known to me at this point in time.

Certainly in Halifax at the time Liechti taught at Dalhousie, everything was converted to English or British systems, money, measurements, language and of course, governance.

I know he was on staff as of 1865 and his official title was Professor of Modern Languages.

No problem. In regards to his translation, I've just realized something even Leitchi, a Professor of Languages, should have known when he 'translated' the inscription. I'll send it to you sometime in the next couple of days.

Regards,

Indy

Sheila showed me her alphabet which she believes is related to the OI stone code. It really does have many similarities. It is known as the Berber or Tifinigh alphabet. Here's a web page about it http://www.ancientscripts.com/berber.html
Now here's an engraving found on an OI stone. It appears to be two of the Berber symbols joined together, S and Z. Maybe they stand for Sinclair and Zeno. Henry Sinclair voyaged to Nova Scotia in 1398. His navigator was Antonio Zeno. You could very well call it the Sinclair Zeno expedition.

It's a diagram.
Lines on the stone are mason drillings to split the stone with accurcy and the markings are what the stones are to be used for.

Simalar to the smith Stone

It has symbols the same as money pit inscribed stone symbols?

Looks like the Berber letters Z, T and B. The CH symbol on the other stone could be a mason mark, as you said. Each mason had his own mark.

It is unlikely Stone cutters would leave there markings on there finished product?

Stone cutter Log Markings?

Looks kike Berber/Tifinagh letters F T S to me,

On the Berber page I linked, it's the Z that looks like and H. F looks like an X with a line across the top. The Tifinagh F is kind of like an H but the top part is shorter than the bottom part and there is a space between the top and bottom parts. The H on the stone looks like the single line is right across the middle, like a normal H. Maybe in another version of the alphabet than the page I linked it looks more like an H.

That doesn't look like a finished stone to me. Probably one that got messed up and discarded. It does seem to have some drill holes along one of the lines so maybe it was planned to be split, like you said. But the split was never made, thus it is not a finished stone, thus the mason mark could still be on it.

The CH Marking and the H marking on the smith stone may be the stone cutters markings of a design? the marking designs are simalar to each other and the smith stone C could be chiped off the H? this may be a stone cutters lingo' it just needs to be interpreted.

oops

Inquisition of oneself of the hidden self

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The hidden people do they convert them selves into the light of the known or do they play among the masquerade of the diluted. Names of the of the suspected becomes the quarrel of heresy, and sent to the tower of no escape from the already untruthful.

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Finally is the mirror full of smoke or is the mind clouded with burnt feelings.


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