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PostPosted: 25 Jan 2009 2:47 pm 
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Amazing what ancient writings I found in India that dovetailed with the Bible and life of the prophets..


Can you produce the material evidence?
Do these "manuscripts" really predate Notovitch?


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Hi Leo,

First, I am refering to manuscripts that predate the arrival of Islam in India, and go back roughly 2,000 years before Notovich. I believe all the books on Jesus in India refer back to the same sources. They are quoted again and again, and most predate Islam.
Anything regarding Thomas and Jesus in India is especially significant.

Here is a quote from this source:

http://www.friesian.com/sangoku.htm#india-era

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The Calendar in India

Simultaneously with the descent of Sakas into India, Parthians (Pahlavas) or Suren appear from the west, and some of them become established in India independent (or not) of the Parthian King. The Parthians spoke a "North-Western" Iranian language, though its origin was far south of the Scythians. The sources are sometimes confused about which Indian rulers are Sakas and which are Parthians, since they are never attested as which. Gudnaphar (Greek Gondophernes), who traditionally is supposed to have welcomed the Apostle Thomas to India, seems to have been Parthian. The legend of the mission of Thomas to India is now of renewed interest because of the discovery of the text of the Gospel of Thomas, one of the Gnostic Gospels, in Egypt in 1945.




There was a carving on the temple stairs in Srinagar that was since destroyed by fundamentalists, but some photos of the original still exist.
It notes that part of the temple was dedicated to Marjan's son, Eli-kim. In a previous post here I mentioned that I sought a relationship between the son of Marjan mentioned in India as Eli-Kim, and the son of Jesus known to Saul as Eli-Mar. They appear to be the same son. I felt this was a tremendous breakthrough in this research. I personally am very excited about it and still trying to build a solid bloodline link from this son to modern claiments. If we can get DNA from just one or two linked tombs, then we may have validation.

Let's see where this line of investigation goes over the next few months.

Then you have to reference texts to determine who was Marjan and why she would be connected with that particular temple... it turns out that she was the wife chosen for Issa-Yuz Asaf. According to the above mentioned Thomas texts, Jesus and Thomas were at the court of Gondopharnes (another king of India) and visited this very same temple to do repairs. We are connecting the dots slowly but surely.

The Bhavishaya Maha Purana was written in the first and second centuries, and quotes Jesus directly when he spoke with a local king. It was written at the time of King Shalawahein that he met Jesus in the mountains and selected the wife, Maarjan, for him. This was written during the Shaka era begun in the reign of King Kanishka, about 78 AD.

There's more, especially regarding links between the Bible and the Mahabharata .... but the above may serve as a start in the right direction.
All the best,
Shasta

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Mike and DVB and Roscoe and Leo expressed concern about how I arrived at several of my conclusions Roscoe said " "Give me independent evidence that Jesus ever existed in the first place in order to be resurrected."" Some evidence was then provided by Philalethes which was completetly ignored. DVB said: ""whether Jesus was anything other than a man is a whole other question..."" which I tried to answer in my books...and Mike was worried that spirits and souls fell in to the realm of Santa Clause. In my book I also examined what was it that the Bible could be referring to? Since it was such an integral part of the Bible, I tried to offer suggestions how we could interpret their experiences. That simply brought ridicule from Mike. My reply to that is, "The YOU explain it, because the Bible, for thousands of years, was not shy about discussing what is a soul..."

I would like to address a diiferent problem, that is why isn't more said here? You brought up about my theories and what evidence I am basing them on. You had an issue about ‘proof’ that Jesus survived crucifixion and was seen up to 11 years later with the apostles. You had issues that Magdalene was with them, either as an apostle or in some other capacity. I went to my book and began laboriously copying out the information I provided there, in order to show you exactly what research material I relied on to answer your questions.

About half-way through I stopped. Time after time, ever since returning from Asia, I have freely provided information about my research in forums such as this. And on at least three occasions that information was literally stolen right out of forums and presented as someone else’s material. On one occasion, even my hand-drawn maps appeared on the internet at someone else’s website with no credit whatsoever. Most recently there are two best selling authors who my lawyer assures me would lose in a court of law if I pursued this matter to the fullest against them.

People steal copyright material and intellectual property rights all the time. Horrible public legal battles and name slinging are the only way to resolve the issues. I chose not to go that route, preferring instead that the truth will become obvious over time. It may take years. There’s nothing else I can do but wait and trust in honest researchers to investigate the truth. That’s why I put such high values on forums that attract the highest most scrupulous research, and certainly Arcadia is among the best around, at least regarding the Jesus-Magdalene RLC theories.

At least one member of this Arcadia forum made a huge book deal based on her claims of ‘originality’ when in fact people readily identified the material and the intellectual property rights as coming from others’ forums, including my own at the time. Her gain of millions of dollars was my entire family's loss.

So it puts we honest authors in a difficult position. On the one hand we want to show how carefully worked through our research and conclusions were/are. On the other hand, we see how quickly opportunists without scruples claim it as their own.

I have written books on these topics. The books are readily available at amazon.com. If you have an interest, then I do hope you will purchase them and read them. But for me to create post after post here of all my research makes no sense. I am still in the process of creating a new book hoping to close whatever loopholes are left from my last 2 efforts. I am limited in what I’m willing to say before publication. Furthermore, I am deeply involved with governments and countries helping me to obtain the DNA from several tombs, and this limits my freedom to speak openly about these projects. They may take years to fullfill as some sites depend upon controlling militancy. I have no control over that and must wait it out.

I am willing to endure the slings and arrows and doubts and accusations about “shoddy research” in the short term because I know in the long term it will all be understood. I apologize in the meantime for disappointing you. That is beyond my control to fix. Read the books and email me with questions. That’s all I can offer you for now.

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Roger said :So whatever your theory about Christ's crucifixion, He didn't, in any of the accounts, appear to suffer any of those symptoms. The likelihood of His having simply survived the ordeal, and having received treatment of his wounds in secret, overa period of mere days, does not compute.


That's why you have to read my book for understanding... :-)

It's not so bad. Think of it as supporting struggling authors...do that often enough and you can even declare me as a dependent on your taxes. :!:

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 Post subject: how does this find compute in?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... -Eden.html

This location in Turkey where Kurds now dwell has been a bit of a backwater for 1000s of years. It don't sit astride the Silk Road, it does not figure in any strategic scenario either.

By the merest coincidence of happenstance serendipity a clever + inquisitive shepherd meandered over an area that had been meandered over for 1000s of years. He saw what his predecessors did not see, the trait of a good researcher, no?

How come Harkey malarkey didn't see this find coming if she has this vision thing? She should have been able to let the archaeology krowd know 'boot this a long time ago, no? So in retrospect her claim of being a god-choid is extremely suspect.

I put these items here, not as a digression, but more as an indication that the workings of the ways of Jesus are truly remarkable, no? I foresee many more such finds to 'happen' in that general vicinity.

That is is timeline start point, yes? It helps to realign bibic dating in regards to when the Adam Family made their presence on the planet. It may also be a way of commemorating life after Noah's Flood. Future finds will no doubt solidify this take.


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