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PostPosted: 02 Aug 2012 8:54 pm 
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BTW Before our Aussie friends mention it team GBR seem to be doing very well in the sitting down and standing still sports !
:lol: TD


Yes, I knew we'd catch up in the Medal Table once the sedentary sports started. :lol: Although the cycling looks quite exhausting. I love the Dan Dare helmets.

But I was actually about to say, my favourite Olympic moment so far was seeing Peter Wilson, a farmer's son from Dorset, and the youngest person in his final, win gold for Britain at the clay pigeon shooting, which was an exciting event to watch, held at the Royal Artillery barracks in Woolwich. What an absolutely incredible shot.


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BTW Before our Aussie friends mention it team GBR seem to be doing very well in the sitting down and standing still sports !
:lol: TD


Yes, I knew we'd catch up in the Medal Table once the sedentary sports started. :lol: Although the cycling looks quite exhausting. I love the Dan Dare helmets.

But I was actually about to say, my favourite Olympic moment so far was seeing Peter Wilson, a farmer's son from Dorset, and the youngest person in his final, win gold for Britain at the clay pigeon shooting, which was an exciting event to watch, held at the Royal Artillery barracks in Woolwich. What an absolutely incredible shot.


But the great thing was the orange clays exploding in purple dust in super slo-mo where you even saw the pellets fly.
The team sprint did manage to beat the French for the Gold medal in the team cycling sprint!
Gold and silver in the double canoes did look quite energetic for a sitting down sport! :wink:

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Isn't it fantastic to watch? I'm thoroughly enjoying every minute and looking forward to tomorrow! To think all this is the culmination of sheer hard work and commitment by the athletes, just for this moment - fantastic.

In pictures: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19099774

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But the great thing was the orange clays exploding in purple dust in super slo-mo where you even saw the pellets fly.


It was very telegenic, as well as nice to see some middle aged and not incredibly athletic looking people get to be Olympians.

I think we should have had bowls in this Olympics. Because isn't there a convention that a host country gets to introduce a sport from time to time? I assume that's how beach volleyball got in there. And synchronised swimming. So we could have brought in bowls. It's a very quintessentially British past-time, goes back centuries, Francis Drake, etc. And they could have made a great venue for it, done it like a proper village bowling green, white picket fence, etc. And we probably could have won that, too. :wink:


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Isn't it fantastic to watch? I'm thoroughly enjoying every minute and looking forward to tomorrow! To think all this is the culmination of sheer hard work and commitment by the athletes, just for this moment - fantastic.

In pictures: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19099774


Totally agree with you!
It's just a shame that some begrudge writing a single positive sullable in praise of all that dedication and commitment.

Wasn't Chris Hoy amazing? The Aussies seem to be misfiring in the pool :?

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Crow wrote:
Isn't it fantastic to watch? I'm thoroughly enjoying every minute and looking forward to tomorrow! To think all this is the culmination of sheer hard work and commitment by the athletes, just for this moment - fantastic.

In pictures: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19099774


Totally agree with you!
It's just a shame that some begrudge writing a single positive sullable in praise of all that dedication and commitment.

Wasn't Chris Hoy amazing? The Aussies seem to be misfiring in the pool :?

TD


We're struggling that's for sure. We're getting a lot of silver so they're calling it the silver games.

GB is doing well. You're beating us. That's good. Your shout then. :lol:

We're losing all our world records. :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: The Ugly American - Mitt Romney and His Olympic Cheek
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Thought you might like the first paragraph Sheila:

http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/dail ... all-began/

"The heavily-marketed concept of the Games as a peaceful, clean, harmonious, amateur sport­ing event is a fictitious reflection of the games in ancient times. As scholar Jenifer Neils explains in her review essay, the ancient Games were characterized by strife, violence, cheating, highly specialized professional training and high stakes political agendas. Sound familiar? Her review continues, discussing books that explain the world of ancient athleticism and demonstrate its similarities with our own modern sports culture. For example, the elevation of accomplished athletes to demi-god status in society is not a new phenomenon; ancient athletes had tremen­dous financial and cultural motivations to succeed and could often great achieve personal wealth and fame if they did so. Topics such as diet, training, sports medicine and drugs were all of major concern to athletes and their trainers in the ancient Olympic Games – the very subjects that dominate the media coverage of sports competition today.

In contrast to the works reviewed by Neils, Michael B. Poliakoff strives to put some distance between the brutality of the ancient games and the gentler, more sportsmanlike competition of the modern Olympic Games. He points out that while modern boxing regulations provide for a controlled environment and safety measures for athletes, ancient Greeks, he wryly notes, “recognized a number of ways to make the sport safer—and ignored all of them.” In fact, he goes on to reveal that boxers often used equipment that enabled them to cause more damage to their opponent, rather than less. The lack of weight classes in boxing and wrestling would pit smaller athletes against much larger ones, and choking an opponent was perfectly acceptable method of subduing an adversary. Adding to an athlete’s vulnerability was the fact that he com­peted in the nude. Framing the Games as a ritual designed to emulate battlefield heroism rather than friendly competition, Poliakoff emphasizes that the modern Olympic Games are far more benign and controlled than their brutal predecessors in the ancient world.

David Gilman Romano offers an overview of the ancient Olympiads, discussing in detail the site of Olympia itself and the mythic origins of the original games. The first known Olympic fes­tival is thought to have taken place in 776 B.C. in honor of Zeus, though archaeological evidence suggests that Olympia had been the site of athletic contests from as early as the 11th century B.C. By 457 B.C., a massive temple had been constructed at Olympia, dedicated to Zeus, the patriarch of Greek deities. Romano goes on to discuss the construction of other large structures dedicated to the Olympiads as the Games took their place firmly within the religious and cultural tradi­tions of the Greek world. He tells us of the enigmatic Olympic Register—a fragmentary record of Olympic victors thought to have first been compiled by Hippias of Elis in the 5th century B.C. Though incomplete, the register lists victorious athletes by name and accomplishment, and offers us the opportunity to view the ancient Olympiads through a more personal, human lens.

While most authors focus on the games themselves and the athletes who competed in them, Tony Perrottet takes up the question of why regular Greeks would make a long journey to an overcrowded and blazingly hot venue. The journey itself was usually made on foot over 200 miles and took approximately two weeks. Conditions upon arrival were often poor at best, and deadly at worst. Perrottet describes poor or non-existent sanitation, a lack of fresh drinking water, an unrelenting sun, and hordes of disease-carrying black flies. So how does one explain the nearly 70,000 spectators that journeyed to Olympia every fourth year for the better part of 12 centuries? Because, explains Perrottet, a journey to Olympia was a religious pilgrimage, and the Games themselves were one of the most important sacred festivals in the ancient Mediter­ranean. Spectators who made the journey were not just fanatical sports enthusiasts but also dedicated devotees of Zeus, who believed that making such a journey was to participate fully in the religious life of their society.

While the Olympic Games and the site that gave them their name loom large in our mod­ern sports culture, Stephen Miller reminds us that the competitions held in Olympia were not the only panhellenic sports events of the ancient world. He describes a site in the Arcadian mountains called Nemea, where athletes would compete in games called the Nemeads. As the archaeologist responsible for the excavation of the site over a 20-year period, Professor Miller is an ideal tour guide as he leads us through a descriptive tour of the ancient sports facilities. An amusing sidebar explains the modern fascination with the ancient competition: the Society for the Revival of the Nemean Games has reinstituted the games of old, and participants compete in the same competitions as the ancient athletes once did. One exception has been made for modern sensibilities, however. In the modern Nemean Games, participants have the option of wearing clothing.

As the opening ceremonies of the 2012 London Olympic Games approach with pageantry and fanfare, spectators and sports enthusiasts will flock to London and significantly more will tune in on their televisions. Airplanes and modern media technology make being an Olympic fan a much easier endeavor today than it was 2500 years ago, and the circumstances in which the Games take place are both safer and more comfortable. However, the Games’ popularity today demonstrate that competitive spirit and passionate fandom are nothing new. Let the Games begin"!


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 Post subject: Re: The Ugly American - Mitt Romney and His Olympic Cheek
PostPosted: 03 Aug 2012 4:43 am 
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I'm really enjoying the Olympics
I love the opening ceremony

Romney just keeps insulting everyone
It is embarassing

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The Nemead games sounds more my style.


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Sheila wrote:
The Nemead games sounds more my style.


So, what is the problem you have with commitment, self sacrifice and aspirational achievement?
Why are you unable to offer even the blandest word of encouragement for the Paralympians?
Do you have a problem with the notion of the Paralympics? :shock:

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It seems that in Bejing the Brits won too many medals in the cycling so they changed the rules, so that the elite athletes we have at the moment couldn't have too much influence on the medals table.

I watched the road race featuring Wiggins and Cavendish and it became patently obvious that most of the contestants weren't interested in winning themselves but were more interested in stopping Britain winning. They couldn't influence the time trial (the Race of Truth) - the fastest wins, end of story.

But look at the medal table now.

China top. and they seem to have their success spread over several athletes. If they think this impresses me then they're wrong. My reaction is - Poor Bastards!!!! - Get a life. I see kids getting bullied at six years old (sometimes younger) whether they like it or not. Who knows what they are being fed with now in order to increase their body fitness which will not be noticed by the time they come to compete.

The badminton incident shows the Chinese attitude to the Olympic Spirit.

As for the United States. Number two in the medal chase. Well how about loading the competition so that the same swimmers don't keep winning all the medals. You know - Like they weighted the cycling against Britain so that Britain doesn't win too many medals with their top athletes in that competition.

Interesting to hear what Sharon Davies had to say. She dedicated her young life to intense training and only won a silver medal. Now in later life she has found out that the woman that beat her is now very very ill because of all the performance enhancing drugs she was forced to take. Meanwhile Sharon Davies, who took no drugs and is still healthy, is merely remembered only as a silver medalist.


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China top. and they seem to have their success spread over several athletes. If they think this impresses me then they're wrong. My reaction is - Poor Bastards!!!! - Get a life.


Yeh, you're so right Roscoe. All these athletes should get a life. They should instead spend hours everyday trawling Neo-Nazi and conspiracy forums looking for something to be frightened of. That's a much healthier lifestyle!

And I'm sure China is absolutely devastated that it cannot impress you!

My god, you really are one of the silliest prats I've ever come across... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Thomas D. wrote:
Sheila wrote:
The Nemead games sounds more my style.


So, what is the problem you have with commitment, self sacrifice and aspirational achievement?
Why are you unable to offer even the blandest word of encouragement for the Paralympians?
Do you have a problem with the notion of the Paralympics? :shock:

TD


I'm guessing that by your silence Sheila you ascribe to the Spartan practice of neo natal care?
Only the perfect survive and the rest get left on the mountain?

Gobsmacked!

TD :shock:

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Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
Roscoe wrote:
China top. and they seem to have their success spread over several athletes. If they think this impresses me then they're wrong. My reaction is - Poor Bastards!!!! - Get a life.


Yeh, you're so right Roscoe. All these athletes should get a life. They should instead spend hours everyday trawling Neo-Nazi and conspiracy forums looking for something to be frightened of. That's a much healthier lifestyle!

And I'm sure China is absolutely devastated that it cannot impress you!

My god, you really are one of the silliest prats I've ever come across... :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ever looked into the mirror?

Neo Nazi forums indeed.

I'll tell Andrew that he's running a Neo Nazi forum


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lovuian wrote:
I'm really enjoying the Olympics
I love the opening ceremony

Romney just keeps insulting everyone
It is embarassing


He seems to be the perfect US President.

An Idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NTPG5OX ... re=related


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roscoe wrote:
Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
Roscoe wrote:
China top. and they seem to have their success spread over several athletes. If they think this impresses me then they're wrong. My reaction is - Poor Bastards!!!! - Get a life.


Yeh, you're so right Roscoe. All these athletes should get a life. They should instead spend hours everyday trawling Neo-Nazi and conspiracy forums looking for something to be frightened of. That's a much healthier lifestyle!

And I'm sure China is absolutely devastated that it cannot impress you!

My god, you really are one of the silliest prats I've ever come across... :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ever looked into the mirror?

Neo Nazi forums indeed.

I'll tell Andrew that he's running a Neo Nazi forum


Tell him whatever you like :lol: You keep making this 'I'll tell Andrew' name-drop 'threat'... You really are a pathetic plonker, aren't you? :lol:

I do find it surprising that the moderator allows you to peddle your Holocaust denial, anti-Jewish hate, etc, here on the forum, but whatever... I'm happy enough to keep showing you up for the frightened, hate-filled munchkin that you really are...

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He seems to be the perfect US President.
An Idiot.


Many of us would prefer our former two term Rhodes scholar one back.
Others hope that our former Harvard Law Review President will have second go at it too.


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Thomas D. wrote:
Thomas D. wrote:
Sheila wrote:
The Nemead games sounds more my style.


So, what is the problem you have with commitment, self sacrifice and aspirational achievement?
Why are you unable to offer even the blandest word of encouragement for the Paralympians?
Do you have a problem with the notion of the Paralympics? :shock:

TD


I'm guessing that by your silence Sheila you ascribe to the Spartan practice of neo natal care?
Only the perfect survive and the rest get left on the mountain?

Gobsmacked!

TD :shock:


Wow Sheila!
you're clearly still on line so you're choosing not to offer a single positive word of acknowledgement or
encouragement for any competitors especially not the Paralympians ! :shock:
I knew you were weird but that puts you beyond even Roscoe!
How hard can it be ? You claim to be principled but these clearly don't extend to many of your fellow humans particularly the physically challenged!

I'm sorry for you !
TD :?

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Well we had a thoroughly brilliant time at the weightlifting today, great competitors and wonderful support from the crowd. Good to see a female competitors from the United Arab Emirates and Syria, they got a fabulous reception. The men's competition was brilliant, and the compare kept us up to date with the GB medal wins throughout, all in all a fab day. TFL kept everything running smoothly on the DLR too, no problems travelling at all. :mrgreen:

Did try to post some pics up but i keep getting a message that the board quote has been reached?

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Well we had a thoroughly brilliant time at the weightlifting today, great competitors and wonderful support from the crowd. Good to see a female competitors from the United Arab Emirates and Syria, they got a fabulous reception. The men's competition was brilliant, and the compare kept us up to date with the GB medal wins throughout, all in all a fab day. TFL kept everything running smoothly on the DLR too, no problems travelling at all. :mrgreen:

Did try to post some pics up but i keep getting a message that the board quote has been reached?


Sounds exciting, We're off to the athletics next wednesday, cannot wait!
Even the weather is co-operating!
Another great return from Team GB from the sitting down sports !

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:shock: OMG the kiwis are beating Aussies. Should I admit that?


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Did try to post some pics up but i keep getting a message that the board quote has been reached?


Are you uploading to a photoalbum like photobucket then posting the link? I think Richard knows how it works.

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roscoe wrote:
lovuian wrote:
I'm really enjoying the Olympics
I love the opening ceremony

Romney just keeps insulting everyone
It is embarassing


He seems to be the perfect US President.

An Idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NTPG5OX ... re=related


Yep :roll:

I saw Wiggins great run and Congrats Great Britain
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lovuian wrote:
roscoe wrote:
lovuian wrote:
I'm really enjoying the Olympics
I love the opening ceremony

Romney just keeps insulting everyone
It is embarassing


He seems to be the perfect US President.

An Idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NTPG5OX ... re=related


Yep :roll:

I saw Wiggins great run and Congrats Great Britain
:mrgreen:


Just to put things into perspective we have a few idiots of our own.

For example, it was good that they didn't let the Mayor of London speak too much in the opening ceremony.

He has his own gaff website called Boris of the Day


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Just to put things into perspective we have a few idiots of our own.

For example, it was good that they didn't let the Mayor of London speak too much in the opening ceremony.

He has his own gaff website called Boris of the Day


You're calling Boris an idiot ? :lol:

Some might conclude that his carefully constructed persona as a Buffoon is screen to hide a razor sharp
intellect and a very savvy politician. It allows him to get away with stuff that others cannot.

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The double amputee South African runner just came second in the 400m heat!
Fantastic achievement!
Running on blades is probably ok for our resident closet Eugenics supporter as he wasn't born legless! :roll:

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