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En tout cas l'administration du president Americain ne manque pas d'air. Obama va partager une cellule avec Bradley Manning?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 58718.html

but still ... first they got Manning, next they'll get Assange. Justice is not one of America's characteristics. I guess they'll get 70 years, each one.

You are right....but that was NOT the intent of the Founding Fathers.

Where, oh where, is Mr. Jefferson when you need him?

(please see quote below....can you say tyranny?)

The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner...oh ma sides !

Equador is nice this time of year, it`s the Winter Solstice down there. I hope

that Julian sees it soon.

Big Brother is watching YOU. No more move without "him" knowing. Just like in Margaret Atwood's "Handmaid’s Tale" from 1985. Just like in Orwell's "1984".

Yes it really sucks the waste of money and the police state US has become

so the question is...other than talking about what is happening before our very eyes... (which i think is actually an essential part of change), what can we do to change our future....?

Is it anyone's?

TCP

The Dalai Lama XIV., f.i.

Jefferson believed that the tree of liberty had to be nurished by the blood of patriots from time to time. Maybe he was right.

However, in this day in time, the best way to confuse TPTB is to simply unplug yourself from all modern conveniences. A tater gun, in the right hands, can take down a drone quite nicely.

You do realize that these drones were developed by Va Tech, Blacksburg, VA.....DARPA research contracts. I've been watching them test them for years.....

And now....

America is officially socialist.

I cannot believe what the Supreme Court just did. It defies all logic....well, not if you're The Vatican.....

This country was created because our ancestors were running from the Catholic Church. Which makes Rome/Vatican the first real enemy....and now, they run our Supreme Court. What the hell did we think was going to happen? The Vatican in known for having a very long memory.

No matter which country you live in:

Voting is useless
Protesting is useless
And there is no available real estate to move to, left on the planet

The only thing left to do is to stand and fight, and most people are far too fat and lazy.

Man, I'm pissed.

Et maintenant, vu la diffusion mondiale des details de la cruaute du traitement du jeune Bradley Manning par Obama, il semble que les Etats Unis se sont obstines a creer un martyr.

Lawyer: Treatment of Bradley Manning 'Should Shock the Court'
By Dan De Luce, Agence France-Presse
20 July 12


vidence showing the mistreatment of WikiLeaks suspect Bradley Manning at a military brig should "shock the conscience" of the court, his lawyer said Thursday.

The US Army soldier accused of handing over a trove of secret documents to the WikiLeaks website was subjected to harsh, "unlawful" conditions for nine months at the brig even though psychiatrists concluded he was not at risk of committing suicide, said David Coombs, his defense counsel.

Manning was placed under "maximum custody" at the US Marine Corps Brig in Quantico, Virginia as "the result of a direct order" from a commanding officer, witnessed by two colonels, Coombs alleged at a pre-trial hearing.

Other cases have revealed excesses but "this one should shock the conscience of this court," the lawyer added.

After his solitary confinement from July 2010 to April 2011, which sparked outrage by rights activists, Manning was transferred to a prison at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas, where he was placed under less restrictive conditions after he was evaluated by mental health professionals.

Judge Denise Lind agreed to a defense request to have the commander of the Fort Leavenworth brig at the time, Lieutenant Colonel Dawn Hilton, testify next month about how Manning was evaluated and why he was not placed in solitary confinement.

Manning's lawyer said he planned to file a 100-page motion arguing his client suffered illegal detention conditions while awaiting his court-martial, and said his improved treatment at Fort Leavenworth made clear that he had endured an injustice at the Quantico brig.

"Either the water at Fort Leavenworth has amazing mental health healing properties or he was subject to unlawful pre-trial confinement (at Quantico)," Coombs said.

But the judge rejected a request from Manning to have UN Special Rapporteur on Torture Juan Mendez appear as a witness. Prosecutors had argued that Mendez's testimony was not relevant as he never visited Manning during his detention at Quantico.

Mendez requested a visit with Manning but US military authorities would not allow him to conduct an "unmonitored" meeting with the accused, Coombs said.

The judge also ruled Thursday that prosecutors have to meet a defense request to produce in court a tear-proof smock, blanket and mattress similar to those issued to Manning during his detention at Quantico.

The blanket was essentially "a large piece of sand paper," Coombs said.

The trial for Manning is tentatively due to begin in September but may be pushed back as late as February next year, the judge said.

Manning, 24, was a low-ranking intelligence analyst deployed in Iraq when he was arrested in May 2010 and accused of releasing hundreds of thousands of classified diplomatic cables and military logs from Iraq and Afghanistan.

If convicted of aiding the enemy, he faces a possible life sentence.

Il y a sans doute plus degueulasse qu'Obama quelquepart... Robert Mugabe, peut-etre? Mais Mugabe est moins hypocrite.

should actually be read as "If convicted of aiding the public, he faces a possible life sentence"


Blowing the whistle on war crimes, is not a crime....unless you are betrayed and dobbed in to said war criminals while the public sit on their arses, shrug their shoulders and say "serves the kid right".