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 Post subject: Why has nobody commented on this?
PostPosted: 20 Oct 2010 12:37 am 
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Why has nobody commented on this?

Three New York Firemen describing bombs going off in the twin towers.

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You people don`t understand, there may be more, any one of these f_____g buildings can blow up, this aint done yet"

How much clearer can it get?

The footage held by NIST until now but forced to release it through a law suit.

Why no comments on this?

Too busy point scoring it seems. Desparately trying to rescue their frayed ego.

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 Post subject: Chemical engineer confirms the work of Steven Jones
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9/11:EXPLOSIVE TESTIMONY EXCLUSIVE Mark Basile Chemical Engineer

How much more confirmation do you need?

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Job
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More than that.

Spent 14 mins expecting an engineer presenting some quantative results (some measurements taken experimentally) and what we got was 14 min of WAFFLE.

He may well have found a thermitic reaction. He put measured heat energy in and got more than that out, therefore he got a thermitic reaction. BUT HOW MUCH MORE? Convieniently, he doesn't say.
It may have been a fraction of 1% or it may have been 1000%. He just doesn't say.
But I'm guessing that if it was enough to do damage the figure would have been screamed at us.

The engineers i know deal in FACTS not innuendo. This was an insult to the skills of the real engineers out there. If this is representative of the evidence found by 'AE911 Truth' they should pack up now.
For instance, the only instances of the useage of thermite he could think of (his actual words) were all demolition / military based. In fact the commonest use is in thermitic welding, particularly on railway tracks, and on steel beams of course.
No wonder that wasn't mentioned.

Like most conspiracy theories, once you start to look at the 'evidence' objectively, it starts to fall apart.

One other thing. The term is actually 'thermic' reaction, not thermitic, as that pre-supposes that it is caused by thermite. Hardly an unbiased start to this 'scientific' investigation!

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Job
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More than that.

Spent 14 mins expecting an engineer presenting some quantative results (some measurements taken experimentally) and what we got was 14 min of WAFFLE.

He may well have found a thermitic reaction. He put measured heat energy in and got more than that out, therefore he got a thermitic reaction. BUT HOW MUCH MORE? Convieniently, he doesn't say.
It may have been a fraction of 1% or it may have been 1000%. He just doesn't say.
But I'm guessing that if it was enough to do damage the figure would have been screamed at us.

The engineers i know deal in FACTS not innuendo. This was an insult to the skills of the real engineers out there. If this is representative of the evidence found by 'AE911 Truth' they should pack up now.
For instance, the only instances of the useage of thermite he could think of (his actual words) were all demolition / military based. In fact the commonest use is in thermitic welding, particularly on railway tracks, and on steel beams of course.
No wonder that wasn't mentioned.

Like most conspiracy theories, once you start to look at the 'evidence' objectively, it starts to fall apart.

One other thing. The term is actually 'thermic' reaction, not thermitic, as that pre-supposes that it is caused by thermite. Hardly an unbiased start to this 'scientific' investigation!


You want technical? Here's technical by PROFESSOR Steven Jones. A Physicist

1hr 22min

Start watching from 35mins.

Prof Steven Jones speaks about the molten metal

If you have a problem with this then you can find these PHYSICISTS at this site. Architects and Engineers for 911 truth

I will not answer questions made by time wasters. If you have a problem then address them to these SCIENTISTS they will be only too happy to hear from you.

But anyway Al Qaeda doesn't exist. Who said? The BBC.

Instead we got this

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Job
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Had a look at the Steve Jones film and agree that the orange molten spray deserves an answer.
There hasn't been an official answer and in fact some of the replies that have been given to questions seem inadequate.

From the details given its easy to see why Steve Jones et al are talking about thermite.
But then Roscoe, i started to think for myself.

It was right that Jones was warned off.

(This is the third version. Sorry, i'm not saying any more.)

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Job
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But then Roscoe, i started to think for myself.



And what did you think?

Don't tell me let me guess.

You thought that the US government couldn't possibly have killed their own people in order to influence public opinion right?

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For the 9/11 Legacy Victims Still Dying in New York


Despite the current mountains of circumstantial evidence, many Americans still find it hard to believe their leaders would sacrifice thousands of innocent lives for political or economic ends, even ends as grandiose as PNAC's plans for global energy control and worldwide military dominion. To those who still find the passage from incriminating facts to suspicions of guilt a difficult crossing, we ask that they consider the hundreds of 9/11 first responders, cleanup workers and WTC area employees, residents, and children now dying needless painful deaths in the city of New York. These are not victims of foreign terrorists, but of administration lies, which current studies now estimate will kill more people than the attacks themselves. These lies were orchestrated by the Rove-dominated White House Council on Environmental Quality, which blocked EPA air quality warnings, falsified or suppressed pollution reports, and voided OSHA protections for workers on the ground. The thousands of lives this deceit will cost were also sacrificed for political and economic ends, but this time simply for the trivial goal of getting the Stock Exchange up and running again.

So here is the question that must finally be confronted: would the same men who willingly sacrificed thousands of lives for a Wall Street PR stunt be unwilling to sacrifice an equal number to solidify their rule and dominate the world?


The catalysing event like a New Pearl Harbor

I too have been thinking for myself. Only I've been thinking since early 2002.

So gimme your arguments, I've heard em all.

The history of state sponsored terrorism against its own people

The US government knew

Operation Northwoods

The operation from the 1960s where the US military would propose to crash a hijacked plane into a US building and blame the Cubans in order to get US citizens approval for a full scale attack on Castro. Kennedy turned it down, less than a year later he had a bullet in his head.

Al Qaeda doesn't exist. Who said? The BBC.

The Taliban offered to turn over Osama Bin Laden on 26th September 2001, Bush turned them down.

Bin Laden was murdered. Benazir Bhutto said so.

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Job
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South Tower was powered down on the Saturday and Sunday before Tuesday September 11th 2001.

Presumeably so they could plant the bombs

These firemen knew

The lobby was blown before the plane hit

NYPD radio transmissions describing a van with a mural of a plane crashing into the towers painted on the side. The occupants were detained.

Why was it done? To put a shadow government in place.

So if you say well that's understandable then as the war on terrorism will have no surrender of any one group and therefore will continue forever. Then this means that you are willing to accept an unelected government for the rest of your lives. An unelected government that has at it's disposal trillions of dollars and the most powerful military on earth.

It's called a Fascist dictatorship, held in place by the fear of the people. Hitler would have been proud.

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Blair 'misled MPs on legality of war' law chief who advised ex-PM tells Iraq inquiry

Last updated at 6:54 PM on 18th January 2011

Tony Blair misled Parliament and the public about the legality of the Iraq War, according to explosive documents released last night.
Former Attorney General Lord Goldsmith said the then prime minister’s claims that Britain did not need a UN ­resolution explicitly authorising force were not compatible with his legal advice.

In testimony to the Chilcot Inquiry, made public for the first time yesterday, Lord Goldsmith said Mr Blair based his case for invasion on grounds that ‘did not have any application in international law’.
He said he felt ‘uncomfortable’ about the way Mr Blair ignored his legal rulings when making the case to Parliament.
Asked whether ‘the Prime Minister’s words were compatible with the advice you had given him’, he replied: ‘No.’

The shattering testimony is a watershed moment for the Iraq Inquiry, as it is the first time that Lord Goldsmith has directly contradicted Mr Blair. The claims will form the centrepiece of Mr Blair’s ­second grilling by the inquiry on Friday.
The written questions and answers from Lord Goldsmith’s second testimony to the inquiry, released yesterday, detail how the Attorney General was frozen out of government decision-­making over the drafting of Resolution 1441, which he eventually used to justify the war after months of pressure from Mr Blair and his closest aides.
The UK and U.S. tried to get a second UN resolution explicitly justifying an invasion but abandoned the effort when France threatened to veto their plans in the UN Security Council.


In the months before the 2003 war Mr Blair repeatedly claimed that he did not need a second resolution if another country decided to issue an ‘unreasonable veto’.
But in his evidence Lord Goldsmith reveals that he had explicitly told Mr Blair that such claims were nonsense when they met to discuss the legality of war on October 22, 2002.
Lord Goldsmith says his advice ‘must have been understood by the Prime Minister’. Yet on January 15, 2003, Mr Blair told the Commons ‘there are circumstances in which a UN resolution is not necessary’.
On February 6 he repeated the claim on the BBC’s Newsnight programme.
Lord Goldsmith admitted that when he heard Mr Blair’s statements: ‘I was uncomfortable about them and I discussed my concerns with [then Foreign Secretary] Jack Straw.’

Reg Keys, whose military policeman son Tom was killed in Iraq, said of Mr Blair: ‘This was not lying to Parliament to push through a minor bill, it was to start a war. That’s tantamount to criminal and it’s high time this man was called to account.’



MI6 was plotting the toppling of Saddam Hussein nearly 18 months before the invasion of Iraq in 2003, secret papers revealed last night.
Sir Richard Dearlove, the then head of the spy service, sent three documents to Mr Blair’s top foreign policy adviser Sir David Manning on the issue in December 2001, one of which set out ‘a route map for regime change very openly’.
The Iraq Inquiry’s release of Sir David’s evidence, given behind closed doors last May, sheds light on the earliest-known discussions on the matter among Mr Blair’s inner circle.



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Blair 'misled MPs on legality of war' law chief who advised ex-PM tells Iraq inquiry

Last updated at 6:54 PM on 18th January 2011

Tony Blair misled Parliament and the public about the legality of the Iraq War, according to explosive documents released last night.
Former Attorney General Lord Goldsmith said the then prime minister’s claims that Britain did not need a UN ­resolution explicitly authorising force were not compatible with his legal advice.

In testimony to the Chilcot Inquiry, made public for the first time yesterday, Lord Goldsmith said Mr Blair based his case for invasion on grounds that ‘did not have any application in international law’.
He said he felt ‘uncomfortable’ about the way Mr Blair ignored his legal rulings when making the case to Parliament.
Asked whether ‘the Prime Minister’s words were compatible with the advice you had given him’, he replied: ‘No.’

The shattering testimony is a watershed moment for the Iraq Inquiry, as it is the first time that Lord Goldsmith has directly contradicted Mr Blair. The claims will form the centrepiece of Mr Blair’s ­second grilling by the inquiry on Friday.
The written questions and answers from Lord Goldsmith’s second testimony to the inquiry, released yesterday, detail how the Attorney General was frozen out of government decision-­making over the drafting of Resolution 1441, which he eventually used to justify the war after months of pressure from Mr Blair and his closest aides.
The UK and U.S. tried to get a second UN resolution explicitly justifying an invasion but abandoned the effort when France threatened to veto their plans in the UN Security Council.


In the months before the 2003 war Mr Blair repeatedly claimed that he did not need a second resolution if another country decided to issue an ‘unreasonable veto’.
But in his evidence Lord Goldsmith reveals that he had explicitly told Mr Blair that such claims were nonsense when they met to discuss the legality of war on October 22, 2002.
Lord Goldsmith says his advice ‘must have been understood by the Prime Minister’. Yet on January 15, 2003, Mr Blair told the Commons ‘there are circumstances in which a UN resolution is not necessary’.
On February 6 he repeated the claim on the BBC’s Newsnight programme.
Lord Goldsmith admitted that when he heard Mr Blair’s statements: ‘I was uncomfortable about them and I discussed my concerns with [then Foreign Secretary] Jack Straw.’

Reg Keys, whose military policeman son Tom was killed in Iraq, said of Mr Blair: ‘This was not lying to Parliament to push through a minor bill, it was to start a war. That’s tantamount to criminal and it’s high time this man was called to account.’



MI6 was plotting the toppling of Saddam Hussein nearly 18 months before the invasion of Iraq in 2003, secret papers revealed last night.
Sir Richard Dearlove, the then head of the spy service, sent three documents to Mr Blair’s top foreign policy adviser Sir David Manning on the issue in December 2001, one of which set out ‘a route map for regime change very openly’.
The Iraq Inquiry’s release of Sir David’s evidence, given behind closed doors last May, sheds light on the earliest-known discussions on the matter among Mr Blair’s inner circle.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1BTHsjFWR



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 Post subject: American media propaganda not working says Hilary.
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The propaganda isn't working says Hilary Clinton

Because we know you're lying Hilary.

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Job
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No doubt about it
Rumsfeld Bush family and many others attacked our CIA pentagon and stock market ...all in one swoop

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Are all of these eyewitnesses lying?

Why is there black smoke in the basement of the World Trade?

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 Post subject: What's this?
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Don't know what to make of this. Nobody seems to know where it came from.

Watch right up to the end.

Probably fake but worth a mention.

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http://youtu.be/yIOC1J44RYw

The 10th anniversary of 9/11 activities in New York will include the premiere of this long anticipated film that promises to add a critically important dimension of understanding to this seminal event in world history – 9/11.

The film features cutting-edge WTC forensic evidence from more than 40 credentialed experts in their fields – high-rise architects, structural engineers, physicists, chemical engineers, firefighters, metallurgists, explosives experts, controlled demolition technicians, and more.

Several have Ph.D’s, including renowned scientist, Lynn Margulis who was awarded the National Medal of Science and who, along with the other experts in this film, exposes the fraud of the NIST investigation.

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth) is a non-profit corporation. They are a non-partisan association of architects, engineers and affiliates dedicated to exposing the falsehoods and to revealing truths about the “collapses” of the three World Trade Center high-rises on September 11, 2001. To date over 1,500 architects and engineers have signed on in support of the organization's mission.

Most are wanting another investigation

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anyone care to explain why the 60 storey steel central core corner section 'spire' turned to dust

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goGGQhhT ... re=related

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Still believe the government story?

Watch this from pilots for 911 truth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrpNK4lJVc

Who did it?

This will go some way to explain

Jerome Hauer - Scum. His mother was the co-founder of Mossad

Never forget John o'Neill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBLtkYr5Rig

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911 inside job's rats nest. Now we have names

Watch this if you really want to know who did it

You'll hear about Kroll Associates who is now in partnership with G4S - The security firm currently doing the security at the Paralympics with a much reduced Army presence.

John O'Neil, FBIs formost expert on Osama Bin Laden, who resigned from the FBI because he got no joy from the FBI executive over Osama Bin Laden, got employed by KROLL ASSOCIATES. His first day on the job was head of security in the World Trade centers on September 11th 2001. He was in the South Tower when it collapsed.

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John O'Neil was appointed to the Twin Towers security job by Jerome Hauer. Jerome Hauer's mother started MOSSAD.

You'll hear about Robert Morganthau

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Robert Morris Morgenthau was born in 1919 in New York City into a prominent Ashkenazi Jewish family that had emigrated from Baden in 1866. He is the son of long-time Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau, Jr. His grandfather Henry Morgenthau, Sr. was United States Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire during World War I. Before going into diplomatic service, Henry Morgenthau, Sr. had made a fortune in real estate and then became a strong financial backer of President Woodrow Wilson. His grandmother was born in Montgomery, Alabama. From his earliest days, Robert Morris Morgenthau was well-connected politically. The Morgenthau family home was near Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Springwood Estate at Hyde Park, New York, and he grew up knowing Roosevelt.

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Elus Cohen/Cain -Martinism - Baal Priests - Satan priests

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