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 Post subject: American megaliths
PostPosted: 28 Jun 2012 8:22 pm 
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I am a Brit and we have no lack of megalithic sites here. Some of the US members of Arcadia may feel a little left out, but no need. evidence is emerging of a megalithic culture there too in the NE of the USA.

Sites are being found of curious propped boulders, a little like European dolmens, but with large capping stones and small supporting stones.

Who made them and why?

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These seem to be related to stones in Russia at Vottovaara:

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Seids or seitas are objects or sites revered by the Saami people as representing nature or earth spirits. Found throughout the area once called Lapland, they were constructed and revered in the distant past by the Saamis' pre-Christian ancestors. They can take many forms, including constructions of wood or just secluded pools or valleys, but in this case the word refers to seid stones, which are stones or boulders, often of unusual shapes or placed in unusual ways. These are the megaliths of the ancient northern peoples.

Usually these special stones are placed sparingly or singly, sometimes near stone rows or stone circles. But Vottovaara, a mountain in the Republic of Karelia, part of the Russian Republic, is host to a bewildering abundance of them, from 1000 to 1500 seids and other stone constructions all in one area.

Among the most striking features at Vottovaara are its propped boulders, sometimes called flying stones because of the way the boulders, often of interesting shapes, are elevated by smaller stones, making them seem as if they are lifting into flight.


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 Post subject: Re: American megaliths
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Yes, there are several examples in the Northeastern United States. I took this picture of a beautiful one called the "North Salem Dolmen" about an hour or so north of NYC.

The official response for this for those like you posted is usually that they are glacial erratics from the last ice age. That is, boulders displaced by glacial movement and left balancing on smaller "paving" stones after the ice had melted.

Geologists explain that during the last ice age the ice shelf had extended as far south as the NYC area and further east on Long Island. What it doesn't explain is why so many of these "erratics" are concentrated in the NE United States. I grew up in the far NW, in Alaska, and what would be a land considered by many to have been primary covered with ice during the last ice age, has not produced any reports of such phenomena, or at least to my knowledge. This isn't to say the occurrence isn't likely. I have also traveled to the eastern plains directly east of the rocky mountains in Alberta, Canada where several of the world's largest glacial erratics are found and never heard of this phenomenon there either.

There is certainly more to story, I believe, in relation to megalithic structures in this region of the US. On many travels to hiking trails and nature sites, to public and private properties throughout the NE region, I have seen "snake"-like rock mounds/walls, they usually stand about 3-4 ft (1 meter or so) high and snake over hills, craggy outcroppings, even jutting into lakes. I have asked several people I know who grew up in the area about these, the story is usually that they used to be property makers for colonial settlers or the like, but the places where you will find these are often so remote and illogically habitable that this explanation just doesn't seem plausible. Nor do these lines seem to follow any path you would expect a property line to follow. You can find an example of what I am talking about here:

http://www.woodstockx.com/2012/03/25/the-cairns-of-overlook-rock-structures-may-contain-links-to-the-ancients/


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Yes, there are several examples in the Northeastern United States. I took this picture of a beautiful one called the "North Salem Dolmen" about an hour or so north of NYC.

The official response for this for those like you posted is usually that they are glacial erratics from the last ice age. That is, boulders displaced by glacial movement and left balancing on smaller "paving" stones after the ice had melted.

Geologists explain that during the last ice age the ice shelf had extended as far south as the NYC area and further east on Long Island. What it doesn't explain is why so many of these "erratics" are concentrated in the NE United States. I grew up in the far NW, in Alaska, and what would be a land considered by many to have been primary covered with ice during the last ice age, has not produced any reports of such phenomena, or at least to my knowledge. This isn't to say the occurrence isn't likely. I have also traveled to the eastern plains directly east of the rocky mountains in Alberta, Canada where several of the world's largest glacial erratics are found and never heard of this phenomenon there either.

There is certainly more to story, I believe, in relation to megalithic structures in this region of the US. On many travels to hiking trails and nature sites, to public and private properties throughout the NE region, I have seen "snake"-like rock mounds/walls, they usually stand about 3-4 ft (1 meter or so) high and snake over hills, craggy outcroppings, even jutting into lakes. I have asked several people I know who grew up in the area about these, the story is usually that they used to be property makers for colonial settlers or the like, but the places where you will find these are often so remote and illogically habitable that this explanation just doesn't seem plausible. Nor do these lines seem to follow any path you would expect a property line to follow. You can find an example of what I am talking about here:

http://www.woodstockx.com/2012/03/25/the-cairns-of-overlook-rock-structures-may-contain-links-to-the-ancients/


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isn't it fascinating
the Megaliths are treated so differently in Europe but here in America ....the megalith buildershave been just ignored for many centuries

Scattered across four New England states are approximately 800 stone–built chambers, possibly of an ancient origin. These remarkable chambers, found nowhere else in North America, can be circular or rectangular in form, up to 30 feet in length but usually half that, occasionally 10 feet wide and up to 10 feet tall in the central chamber. They are characteristically constructed of expertly–fitted dry masonry stones capped by megalithic slabs. Most of the best preserved chambers can be found sunken into the contours of the landscape. Although some structures are freestanding, the most fascinating structures are accessed by passageways driven into the hillside.

The most elaborate are described as "beehive" chambers, indicative of the conical shape in the central room, supported by a large ceiling capstone. These sophisticated structures sometimes feature "smoke holes" to ventilate the chambers, as well as shelves, benches or recesses incorporated into the walls

One possibility is the ancient Greek Mycenaeans who buried their nobles in beehive tombs called tholoi, large circular burial chambers with a high vaulted roof. This is a possible influence, especially since the pre–classical Greeks were contemporary with the Phoenicians who may have lived at America's Stonehenge, a location we will examine later. As for the beehive chambers of New England, like nowhere else in the world, they closely resemble smaller structures found around the islands of northern Europe. The New England chambers are dead ringers for those built by the Culdee Monks of Scotland, England, and Ireland who adopted the building style from their Celtic ancestry.

http://www.perceptivetravel.com/issues/1109/new_england.html

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The page below has a large photo collection of purported New England dolmens, standing stones, even ogham script and more.

http://www.neara.org/photos.htm

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Hayward wrote:
Geologists explain that during the last ice age the ice shelf had extended as far south as the NYC area and further east on Long Island.
Upon Dartmoor there are many rocky clusters perched upon peaks that look very man-made but are certainly natural glacial features.

On approaching the Avebury henge from the east there is a band of terminal erratics which are clearly visible in the fields to the south east and higher up at Piggledene to the east, where most of the Avebury stones are thought to have come from. If this is so, they have been transported 2 or 3 miles from their original positions and some of them weigh up to 80 tons.

When they re-erected one of the Cove stones at Avebury that had started to lean, probably because of the trucks that thunder past each day, they found that there was almost as much stone below ground as above, causing people to wonder whether this massive stone was there originally and the whole monument erected around it - it seems extraordinary that people would have buried this one stone to such a depth.

It looks to me as if you have a deliberately man-made set of features in the NE of the US, but what do I know?


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Your quite smart Whoop:)
the presence of an enigmatic item found in the medicine pouch of Nez Perc Chief Joseph upon his capture in 1877. In this hide bag was found a cuneiform tablet whose inscription dates from 2042 B.C. The tablet was said by the chief to have been an inheritance from his white ancestors—bringers of great knowledge to his people eons ago.

Another important puzzle piece to this ancient mystery of trade between Phoenicians, Iberian Kelts and Bronze Age Europeans has been brought to light by scuba divers working at a depth of 120 feet in Castine Bay, Maine. Two large ceramic jars were recently hauled to the surface. They have turned out to be ancient olive jars from the Iberian peninsula. The amphorae display clear chafing patterns like those rope lashings would make during a long ocean voyage. More Iberian amphorae have been found in the waters off Newburyport and Boston, Massachusetts.8

Further, Fell and others have found scores of ancient coins throughout the New England area. He said, “After the 4th century B.C. our visitors began to leave behind infallible date markers: those enduring metal discs called coins.” The coins were inscribed with letters indicating they were issued to be used as pay for mercenary Greek and Iberian soldiers in the Carthaginian army.

http://planetvermont.com/pvq/v9n2/megaliths.html

It would appear the Kelts used the calendar sites in New England to regulate their year, to set planting and harvesting schedules and feel as though they had some loose control over the cycles of nature. We are drawn to this conclusion because the calendar sites clearly break the year into eight equal divisions related to the Sun, with the solstices and equinoxes as the four basic dividers. (The Kelts used both a lunar and a solar calendar. Many other cultures broke their year into 13 months [“moonths,” if you will] based upon the lunar cycle. It is said a solar cycle is more accurate, eliminating the need for leap years and the quarter day we pick up each year from our present calendar.)

The monoliths, solar chambers and accompanying ogamic inscriptions we find in New England always align to sunrise and sunset positions of the most important of Keltic ritual days.

a interesting article
http://planetvermont.com/pvq/v9n2/megaliths.html
who knows America's history may have an older version of migration than just the Vikings or Columbus

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New England's Celtic Place Names
From; America B.C. by Barry Fell

“I was surprised to find many Amerindian place names had somehow survived the onslaught of colonists, rivers and geographical features, it would seem, tend to keep their old names despite the invasions of foreign conquerors.

Modern Gaelic preserves many spelled letters that are no longer pronounced, but when pronounced in the ancient Gaulish or ancestral tongue of the Celts and Basques, one finds a striking similarity to the Algonquian language.

For example; the Algonquian word for ‘one who takes small fish' is Amoskeag. In Gaelic Ammo-iasgag means ‘small fish stream'.

In Algonquian Ammonoosuc means ‘small fishing river' and in Gaelic, Am-min-a-sugh means; ‘small river for taking out fish'.

In Algonquian Coos and cohas mean ‘pine tree' and in Gaelic, ghiuthas means ‘pine tree'.

Merrimack River in Algonquian means ‘deep fishing'. In Gaelic Mor-riomach means ‘of great depth'.

Kaskaashadi another Algonquian name for the Merrimack River sounds similar to Guisgesiadi, which in Gaelic means ‘slow flowing waters'

Nashaway River in Algonquian means ‘land between' and in Gaelic naisguir means ‘land connecting'.

Piscataqua River means ‘white stone' and in Gaelic, Pioscatacua means ‘pieces of snow white stone'.

Seminenal River means ‘grains of rock', which in Gaelic is; semenaill

Quechee matches the Gaelic work Quithe meaning pit or chasm.

Ottauquechee River flows through a 162 feet deep gorge is similar to the Gaelic word Otha-Cuithe which means; ‘waters of the gorge'.

Cabassauk River in Algonquian means place of Sturgeon. The Sturgeon fish have unfortunately fallen victim to environmental degradation. Similar to Gaelic Cabach-sugh.

Attilah means blueberries and in Gaelic Aiteal means juniper berries.

Munt means people and in Gaelic muintear means people.

Monad means mountain and in Gaelic monadh means mountain.

The suffix - nock is used in New England to denote hills and mountains. Cnoc in Gaelic means hill or rocky outcrop.

Wadjak means on top, in Gaelic the word is uachdar.

Monomonock Lake means 'island lookout place' and in Gaelic Moine-managh-ach 'means boggy lookout place'.

Pontanipo Pond means cold water and in Gaelic Punntaine-pol means ‘numbingly cold pool'

Natukko means cleared place (land) and in Gaelic Neo-tugha means not covered (by vegetation).

Asquam Lake means ‘pleasant watering place' and in Gaelic Uisge-amail means ‘seasonable waters'.

These names which have stuck, through many changes over the past 300 years, are not names left by Bronze Age European traders who have sporadicly visitored America. These are names given to these places by the indigenous Amerindians. As the Gaelic language is unrelated to any Indo-European languages, this can mean only one thing - that the Gaelic language was the original mother tongue of many Amerindians. It stands to reason that anyone speaking Gaelic related languages in Europe were originally from America. The native name of Brittany in France is Armorica, another big hint as to their origins.


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From ancient Inscriptions, newly deciphered, comes startling evidence that Europeans had settled in America as early as 800 BC

A large, genial man in his late fifties, Fell first became interested in ancient languages when he was a student at the University of Edinburgh. He learned Gaelic, and began investigating Celtic tombs and ruins in Scotland. Then, in a study of the marine biology of Polynesia, he found hundreds of unreadable inscriptions engraved on rocks and painted on cavern walls.

Intrigued, Fell went to Harvard in 1964 and spent eight years there ransacking the Widener Library's unique collection of texts on obscure languages and writing systems. He acquired a working knowledge of half a dozen ancient alphabets, including Egyptian hieroglyphics; Punic; Carthaginian script (used by several ancient peoples); and Ogam, an almost forgotten script used by pre-Christian Celts.

Fell finally found that the Polynesian inscriptions were written in the native language, Maori. But its vocabulary was derived from a mixture of Greek and Egyptian spoken in Libya after Alexander the Great conquered Egypt. The alphabet came from Carthage.

The most remarkable of these Libyan texts was found in a huge cave in New Guinea. There, a navigator named Maui left drawings of ancient but sophisticated astronomical and navigational instruments, as well as a depiction of a solar eclipse which enabled Fell, with the help of Harvard astronomers, to identify the year of the drawings as 232 BC.

If there were Libyans visiting Polynesia at that time, Fell reasoned, perhaps they sailed on to South America. He accumulated evidence for such landfalls, and began lecturing on the subject at Harvard.

His talks attracted the attention of a group of dogged investigators led by James Whittall, an archaeologist who had noted the similarity between many crude stone buildings in New England, which farmers often called root cellars, and similar ruins in Spain and Portugal. The European buildings had been identified as creations of Celts who ruled that part of Europe during the Bronze Age, the period of prehistory which dates roughly from 3500 BC.


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Whittall asked Fell to take a look at the Bourne stone, which had been discovered near Bourne, Massachusetts, around 1680. No one had ever been able to make any sense of the writing on it. Now, Barry Fell was able to read it. The letters were a variation of the Punic alphabet found in ancient Spain, for which Fell has coined the word "Iberic." It recorded the annexation of a large chunk of present-day Massachusetts by Hanno, a prince of Carthage.

Fell joined in a search for additional inscriptions at one of Whittall's favourite sites, Mystery Hill in North Salem, New Hampshire - a series of slabstone buildings variously attributed to Norsemen and wandering Irish monks. Fell began studying the inscribed triangular stones which had previously been found at the site by Bob Stone, the owner of Mystery Hill, and found a dedication to the Phoenician god Baal, written in Iberic Then suddenly, people began seeing hitherto unnoticed inscriptions.

"A shout from Bob Stone told us that he had found another tablet in an adjacent drystone wall," Fell recalls. "As he brushed away the adhering dirt, there came into clear view a line of Ogam script that read 'Dedicated to Bel. '"

Students of ancient mythology had long suspected that the Celtic sun god Bel and the Carthaginian-Phoenician god Baal were identical. Here, for the first time, was evidence not only of this fact, but of a Celtic-Carthaginian partnership in exploration and settlement on a scale never even imagined with dozens of Ogam inscriptions on another more remote site in central Vermont. Fell says,

"It became clear that ancient Celts had built these stone chambers as religious shrines, and the Carthaginian mariners were visitors who were permitted to worship at them and make dedications in their own language to their own gods."

Next, Whittall showed Fell a 1940 photograph of an inscription engraved on a cliff above Mount Hope Bay, in Bristol, Rhode Island. Discovered and recorded in 1780, it had been severely vandalized, making it necessary to work from the photograph. Fell soon read a single line, which was written in Tartessian Punic: "Voyagers from Tarshish this stone proclaims. "

Tarshish was a biblical city on the southern coast of Spain, and its men were among the boldest sailors of antiquity. About 533 BC, Tarshish was destroyed by the Carthaginians and its trade was taken over by them. Here was evidence of how the partnership between the Iberian Celts and the Carthaginians began.

On Monhegan Island, ten miles off the coast of Maine, another inscription was brought to Fell's attention. Written in Celtic Ogam, it read: "Cargo platforms for ships from Phoenicia." From these and other inscriptions, as well as an intensive study of historical data on the seafaring ability of the men of Tarshish and Carthage, Fell concluded there was a highly developed trade route between America and the Mediterranean for at least 400 years before the birth of Christ. The chief products from North America were probably copper, furs and hides.

"American data," as Fell calls it, now began to multiply. Most important was his decipherment of the Davenport stele, which some people compare to the translation of the Rosetta stone the nineteenth century breakthrough which enabled men to read hieroglyphics and grasp the awesome sweep of Egyptian history. On this inscription, which was found in a burial mound near Davenport, Iowa, in 1874, Fell was able to read three kinds of writing. At the top were Egyptian hieroglyphics. Below them was the Iberic form of Punic writing found in Spain. The third line was in Libyan script.


http://www.ensignmessage.com/stonesecrets.html

Davenport stele found in Iowa:

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Quite fascinating information and hopefully over time more evidence mounts high enough to convince others.

Other evidence that suggest support of the Phoenician/American connection can be found in DNA mapping. If you look closely at the Haplotype X group, there are large concentrations in the Druze (Galilee) areas and in North Eastern America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA)
http://ldsdoctrine.blogspot.com/2008/05/haplogroup-x-and-druze-of-galilee.html

Another point of interest that makes an early cross-Atlantic connection with evidence supporting the presence of people from the Iberian area (Spain & France actually) based on findings of tools in both regions and finding unique similarity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis


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There's so much strong evidence but so few over here want to touch it academically.
I'd just as soon bring it up in conversations as I would UFO's.
Phoenician vessels were obviously capable of making transatlantic round trips.

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Bison hunting West Virginia.

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An ancient language form that originated in the African area among the most ancient civilizations has been studied by Nyland (2001). He found that Ogam inscriptions found in North America seem to be closely related to the ancient language, which he called Saharan, but more appropriately might be Igbo West African. It appears that these languages have very ancient origins. Following is a discussion of the translation of the Horse Creek Petroglyph:


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It was not until a full year after having translated the inscription that I noticed the entire Petroglyph was also arranged in the shape of a bison, complete with the characteristic hump formed by the top line, with the eyes and mouth outlined by smaller characters, all artistically arranged.


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There are threads out there that already hold quite a bit of conversation on the subject...albeit a bit one sided.

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Nice work there, Sheila.

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And calling Dr. Fell " largely discredited" is coming from a very conventional view-point.


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"I just wish it wasn't there," said Sandy Hewar, who works at a local hardware store. "It's caused enough problems already."

Some investigators, including local real estate developer Ed Godwin, say the site is nothing more than a hoax.


That's about the extent of the "mainstream" interest, also. And The Davenport stone has to be hoaxed by someone so proficient that they could write the same message in three different "dead languages".

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it changes the whole picture of accepted ancient history and the likelyhood of pre-cataclysmic civilisations....civilisations that existed before the land masses we see today were so radically altered or swamped.


^ And there you have it. Ignorance is bliss.


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Nice work there, Sheila.

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And calling Dr. Fell " largely discredited" is coming from a very conventional view-point.


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"I just wish it wasn't there," said Sandy Hewar, who works at a local hardware store. "It's caused enough problems already."

Some investigators, including local real estate developer Ed Godwin, say the site is nothing more than a hoax.


That's about the extent of the "mainstream" interest, also. And The Davenport stone has to be hoaxed by someone so proficient that they could write the same message in three different "dead languages".

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it changes the whole picture of accepted ancient history and the likelyhood of pre-cataclysmic civilisations....civilisations that existed before the land masses we see today were so radically altered or swamped.


^ And there you have it. Ignorance is bliss.


TCJ ....the historians would have to rewrite those history books
and I agree with the idea of pre cataclysmic civilizations ...it seems there is a cycle

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I failed to give Sheila credit for the last quote and don't expect the history books to be rewritten in my time, but would just like to see more study and professional discourse than has been so far. I'm also aware that this kind of topic can be a total academic career destroyer.

And many school books have been drastically redone here as I'm sure you know.

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And calling Dr. Fell " largely discredited" is coming from a very conventional view-point.
I do not like thee, Doctor Fell,
The reason why I cannot tell;
But this I know, and know full well,
I do not like thee, Doctor Fell.

First published in 'Less Familiar Nursery Rhymes' by Robert Graves, 1926

Based on Martial's epigram:
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I failed to give Sheila credit for the last quote and don't expect the history books to be rewritten in my time, but would just like to see more study and professional discourse than has been so far. I'm also aware that this kind of topic can be total academic career destroyer.

And many school books have been drastically redone here as I'm sure you know.

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You are so right TCJ
Do you know I had to bring attention to the fact that during Bush's term as President he only allowed a Creationist Bible story to be added to the books at the Grand Canyon...the rangers at the Grand Canyon were forbidden to tell the actual age of the Crand Canyon ....for fear the Creationist would be confused

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And calling Dr. Fell " largely discredited" is coming from a very conventional view-point.
I do not like thee, Doctor Fell,
The reason why I cannot tell;
But this I know, and know full well,
I do not like thee, Doctor Fell.

First published in 'Less Familiar Nursery Rhymes' by Robert Graves, 1926

Based on Martial's epigram:
"Non amo te, Sabidi, nec possum dicere quare; Hoc tantum posso dicere, non amo te."

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Its a hard road one walks when going against established history ....

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The reason why I cannot tell;
But this I know, and know full well,
I do not like thee, Doctor Fell.


And here I was in the middle of throwing pentagrams and all manner of what-not on that graphic up there to prove it points straight to Jerry Falwell's Liberty University until a debunker like you showed up. I'm not about to now. :|


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lovuian, it still boggles my mind that he served a second term. And to this day, a large portion of the electorate who voted him back wants public school funding to be completely eliminated, especially all funding for college and university.
Florida's governor wants our U's to teach only how to succeed in business, and no more of that wicked liberal arts.


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and i got sidetracked by Martial's earthier epigrams....excellent stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: American megaliths
PostPosted: 01 Jul 2012 8:12 pm 
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If you missed it, the bison hunt is just stunning and their leader is "clan mother".

http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/westva.htm


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 Post subject: Re: American megaliths
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2012 1:47 am 
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TCJ wrote:
lovuian, it still boggles my mind that he served a second term. And to this day, a large portion of the electorate who voted him back wants public school funding to be completely eliminated, especially all funding for college and university.
Florida's governor wants our U's to teach only how to succeed in business, and no more of that wicked liberal arts.


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because of the corruption

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