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Unexplained Sheep Attacks 'Caused By Aliens In UFOs', Farmers Claim
A series of bizarre incidents involving sheep in Shropshire have led to farmers’ claims that aliens are attacking their livestock.



A distrubing story from Shropshire, of a phenomenon linked to UFOs that has occured in other parts of the world.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... claim.html

Part of a spate of sightings in this region of England, it would appear.

This article recounts the story of a young girl called Harriet Rogers who witnessed a mysterious light in the sky.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... shire.html

And another eyewitness account from a soldier at Tern Hill barracks near Market Drayton.
http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/06/2 ... -barracks/

Apparently, some of the tales of strange lights in the sky, that so intrigue some of us, could be caused by natural phenomenon.

At least, that's the theory of an Australian astrophysicist at the Queensland University of Technology in Brisbane.



The whole BBC article by Jonathon Amos can be found here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11877842

Then again, there's this:

'Life As We Don't Know It' Discovery Could Prove Existence Of Aliens

NASA has sent the internet into a frenzy after it announced an "astrobiology finding" that could suggest alien life exists – even on earth.



Here's the DT article by Richard Alleyne (it includes a lovely photo of Mono Lake in California):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/spac ... liens.html

And a subsequent article by the same correspondent here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/spac ... tists.html

BTW.

Imagine being in Lima in May of 2007: more than 2000 UFOs visible in the clear blue sky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkNdXncScmY&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-6RA3_eN9Y&feature=related

And it happened again in November 2009 Masses of UFOs.

More going on for the last years ...
... in China, Norway, Australia, Russia, Jerusalem, New York, Lima, Taiwan, Mexico, Romania, India, Japan, Colombia, California. (see YT video below.) That makes it 14 countries where lotta people have seen strange lights in the sky. I guess those UFO fakers must be really busy these years!

Watch this (and turn down that irritating music) and listen to that strange caller at the end:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFRKJ6PZZ3c&feature=em-share_video_user

Now, I'd like to hear the skeptics to put that all down. Come on!

...how long have you got.

... all the time until 2050.

back at ya Egi...but i'll pass on the UFO's...i believe in clandestine Government excersises and weather balloons or fleets of chinese lantern type things.

There is no such thing as extra-terrestials...only terrestials ... with the all important addition of Time thrown into the mix .... imho of course

Thanx for your opinion.

Then ... who were those guys that brought knowledge to the Sumerians? Who did wear swallowtails, a kind of watch at the wrist and a strange briefcase in the hand. Who went out on the sea to sleep there. Something like 5000 years ago.

they were teachers from another place and or time....and they didn't need flying saucers.

Those guys might be here again. They could as well be extra-dimensional beings. I did not say that they need space ships made of iron. Sometimes a light in the sky could be a sign or vision or angel, who knows?

We're picking up the pieces of the puzzle of the saucer machines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SYpjNRqdxg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_-HOdO36wQ&feature=related

I see. And it also were meteors that were dancing around the White House in Washington in 1952 and were playing games with the USAF. TCJ called it a power demonstration lately. Now ... Sheila would call that a meteor demonstration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington_D.C._UFO_incident
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Juli 19: At 3 a.m., shortly before two jet fighters from Newcastle AFB in Delaware arrived over Washington, all of the objects vanished from the radar at National Airport. However, when the jets ran low on fuel and left, the objects returned, which convinced Barnes that "the UFOs were monitoring radio traffic and behaving accordingly".
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Juli 26: By this time (9:30 p.m.) the radar center was picking up unknown objects in every sector. At times the objects traveled slowly; at other times they reversed direction and moved across the radarscope at speeds calculated at 7,000 mph. At 11:30 p.m., two jet fighters from Newcastle AFB in Delaware arrived over Washington. Capt. John McHugo, the flight leader, was vectored towards the radar pips but saw nothing, despite repeated attempts. However, his wingman, Lt. William Patterson, did see four white "glows" and chased them. Suddenly, the "glows" turned and surrounded his fighter. Patterson asked the control tower at National Airport what he should do; according to Chop, the tower's answer was "stunned silence". The four objects then sped away from Patterson's jet and disappeared.


A good historical report on UFO events from the 40's and 50's is Major Ruppelt's book:
http://www.nicap.org/rufo/contents2.htm

The poor guy died of a "heart attack" aged 37. He knew too much.
In Austria with a medicament named Digitalis you could put anyone to death by heart attack without finding proof of the medicament in the blood of the victim. In fact, that happened in the 80's. Even an ambassador (in Athens) died of a sudden heart attack after he called Vienna to tell to unveil a story of illegal weapon sellings.

I removed that since it wasn't "recent." If one delves deep in it up they'll see what a firestorm it created in the press and there was a lot of fear and amazement generated in the populace. Soon after those events, the flood of alien invasion films from Hollywood began.

The famous Mexican Air Force footage, similar looking to what DC underwent is added in this news report of the Chicago airport incident in 2006 that had widespread press coverage. Any videos seen of this event have been uncovered as hoaxes and the nighttime film inserted below is of the "Phoenix lights."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKZXnmiUTgA

This is very bold behavior, also:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/2 ... 92515.html

Beam me up, Scotty.

Warp Drive May Be More Feasible Than Thought, Scientists Say



http://www.space.com/17628-warp-drive-p ... light.html

A teacher of mine laughs and says when they first showed pictures of the dark side of the moon on the telly he'd already been there and seen them years before. He says other teachers he knows work with events that happened on this planet prior to mankind's appearance, but he tends to stick to things that happened to humanity within the last 35,000 years or so.

Closer to home I asked him once why he ever bothers driving a car - couldn't he just fly everywhere? It doesn't get the food home I guess, and he does have a wife to feed. But it prompted him to tell me a story that he was indeed flying over a local town once and looked down to see a small boy with his mother and a pram with a baby, waiting at a bus stop. He said the boy was about 8-10 years old. The boy looked up and saw my teacher flying above him. 'Uh oh, he's not supposed to be able to see me' was what he told me he'd thought, as he flew through the air.

Thinking nothing more about it, he was astonished when a week later the same boy passed his premises, which was about three miles away from where the event had happened, looked in, saw him, walked right in the door and said 'Hey, I saw you up there, flying in the sky a week ago'. It takes a lot to spook this particular guy, but this episode did the trick.

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Concerning remote viewing or astral projection, Courtney Brown Ph.D. claims he's remote viewed Jesus Christ.



http://www.farsight.org/

Priceless Whoop!

Did you see they found remains of water on Mars ...that Mars had streams of water at one time

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49216280

Once there was a Wet Mars

Courtney Brown has had some problems with the version of Remote Viewing - he's been at one time implicated in planting false front-loading information.

For some reason you can't accurately use religion or religious iconography to target. Not to say people haven't tried.

David Morehouse the first public outing of the governments use of RVing - says that one of his blind targets that was used in the initial phase of testing was the "Ark of the Covenant" - he suggests it was portal to another dimension. The only problem with this is, the government started to loosen the reigns of the scientific protocols around remote viewing at the time he joined and most people suggest that was the beginning of the end.

The whole subject of psychics submitting to scientific testing is quite broad. Scientific methods may be flawed or loaded, the subjects too ranging anywhere from charlatans to those with extraordinary abilities.

I think the main problem is that those with true abilities do not wish to have them publicly scrutinised by those without them, to no discernible benefit of either party. It's caterpillars trying to assess butterflies. The caterpillar will insist on having explanations in terms of its own larval experience. It has no belief or capacity to realise it too could one day be a butterfly, with the ability to fly and much more besides. The scientific caterpillars devise double-blind tests and all kinds of nonsense, the results of which they will only accept within their own limited terms and frames of reference. Stalemate.

I have had it described by one such person of greater ability that he feels as if he throwing a life belt to someone who is drowning (He's involved a lot with healing people, usually the people conventional medicine fail). A person is appealing to him to be saved and he has proved many times over that his success rate is very good - the life belt he has and his system of throwing it mostly works. It's as absurd to him to question its usefulness as it is to ask if the sun really shines. Then along comes the scientist, demanding to have a look at the lifebelt, demanding to know why this particular belt is so good, does it really work, if so why and by the way wouldn't it be better to do some proper lab research: aerodynamics, trajectories, ideal thrust levels etc? What about considering all the other methods of saving someone? All my man knows is that the person is drowning and needs saving right now; arguing about his methods and suitability for the job and his equipment jeopardise the enterprise. Each moment spent arguing with a scientist does someone else a disservice, because my man's time is limited and there's not really enough of him to go around as it is.

What is the agenda of the Scientist? To get a research grant to justify his existence? To write a paper to make himself look good and further his own career? To prove that it's all hokum unless it submits to scientific scrutiny? To prove something about his own religious or cultural beliefs? Sell a package to the media? Divert the knowledge to the Military? Most 'scientific' questions come pre-loaded with all kinds of things.

My guy does actually know himself reasonably well the mechanism by which what he does works and he will describe it quite happily in scientific terms, but the scientific person asking the question is unlikely to fully comprehend because it contains concepts that are outside the normal sphere of reference and the scientist will demand proof at each step, none of which the scientist in his present condition will be able to replicate for himself and he will be left unsatisfied. Some of his other students do have a capacity to progress and it is to them he forms a bridge to understanding. The proof is the activation within the student of higher faculties and there are clear indicators when someone has done so. The barriers to attaining the faculty are personal and individual, relating to ego-centric assumptions and prejudices, so in this sense a teacher acts like a doctor, diagnosing the exercises necessary to combat these.

well said Whoop
I look at the Placebo effect
"The physician's belief in the treatment and the patient's faith in the physician exert a mutually reinforcing effect; the result is a powerful remedy that is almost guaranteed to produce an improvement and sometimes a cure." -- Petr Skrabanek and James McCormick, Follies and Fallacies in Medicine, p. 13.

The placebo effect is one thing, and a powerful one I agree. Humankind is a suggestible species, and we can either suggest to ourselves or have others suggest to us. What we believe to be true is true, within limits to be defined experimentally and experientially. But we can only start to fly once we get rid of some of the extraneous unwanted nonsense in our lives. The emotional baggage that indoctrination by our culture and our personal health and experiences, often horrific, have instilled in our core being. Having been cheated and lied to so many times, who and what can we trust? It's natural, that is what our protective ego was all about, establishing our world view and immediate survival needs.

I was born to achieving parents, a mother who was an eye surgeon and a father with two degrees and a PhD. I have an elder sister, who is a medical doctor, an ordained Christian Minister and she recently got an arts degree too, so she pretty much has all bases covered. She's clever. But still not happy.

Me? I was a sickly asthmatic child, I never knew good health, I was the runt of the litter. Aged 15 I ended up in hospital with Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones. We both had the same terrible asthma. We had the same consultant too, Prof. Laurent. We played chess in the day room together, he was a thoughtful quiet man. I left hospital and within six months poor Brian was dead. He died of the same inhaler drug I was on called a Medihaler Iso Forte, made by Riker (you bastards). It nearly killed me too. In fact in a later book, called The Silent Epidemic, it was revealed that Medihalers were killing a good few thousand UK people a year, especially those under 20 years old. I went to the Stones' Hyde Park concert for Brian, watched the butterflies being released and mourned for a personal friend.

What did the authorities eventually do? they made Medihalers a class A drug overnight and I was not to have it ever again. I was left to cope without it, on my own, cold turkey, sad and alone, for many months. Abusive parents made it no better. I had no faith or belief left in any mainstream medical treatment, yet I still clung onto any faint hope medicine could give me for many many years after. A vain hope as it transpires. No placebo could placate me, and mostly the drugs they gave me were downright harmful, just like the Medihalers. Religious comfort just seemed like so much sentimentality for me and still does.

I did, however, have some compensatory experiences of my own, because I really needed to know. I once experienced reeling back along my own life into infancy until I hit a cold hard void. Nothing, nada, empty. Cold. Alone. Not dead, I was in full possession of memories and thoughts. What I experienced after that was my own birth. Light streamed into my eyes for the first time, a silver explosion of a brilliance so bright I cannot describe it, but as quickly as it came it went black again, blam, cut off. Pandemonium. I then started to see the nurses in the room. I heard and saw crazy panic in the room, nurses screaming. What I experienced was that my rather large overweight mother had rolled over on top of me in her own drugged stupor, her leg crushing my ribs into my lung, hence the rather abrupt end to my sense of wonderment and awe at being alive and ongoing breathing issues.

Happily I can relate that I did not ever have to experience that episode again and managed to die and be reborn in a somewhat more normal fashion on other occasions, with the clear light filling my world and soul. It is this that it seems is the goal of every mystic that ever lived. Everything is one, all opposites unite, everything simply just is. 'If your eye is single, your whole body will be full of light', as a certain Palestinian is reputed to have said. How true. Pleasure and pain are one. The light is intense. You see cause and effect as happening in a blinding instant. Ask yourself a question in this state and you see the answer. I seemed to ask myself what life was all about and all I could come up with was that chaos and order were again two sides of the same coin. So what was actually happening? Yes, it was that hoary old chestnut love, it seemed to be that life simply seems to long for itself and wants to exist, somehow. Love is the binding force of the universe and is ultimately the only thing that makes any sense. For to deny this is to deny the purpose of life itself. If all there is is cold chaos and accident without love, then it did not seem to me to that this sparkling experience was likely to ever occur again for anyone, yet throughout history there it is and always has been. It seems to me to unfold according to a plan.

So there you stay in your world of beautiful undifferentiated oneness, in a state of grace or bliss or whatever until you start to ask yourself who you are and start to have a sense of self again. You settle back into the present and you come back to land in the here and now.

So what do you do? Do you say you've seen God? Have been at one with the universe? You are actually God in the form of man? Start a new religion? Add to all the fossilised circuses called religions already littering the planet? No, fortunately the majority of people all over the world in every age who get this message, and it is the same everywhere, simply get on with their lives, speak their truth gently when and where they see it is appropriate within their local communities. They work with nature, help the sick and the old, help the children and admire beauty and truth. Simple, nice honest people, I meet them everywhere.

What is different today from any other period in history we know of is the rate of change. There has never been a time where there has been such an explosion of rapid change - in communication, technology, knowledge of all kind. The rules change on a daily basis and it is hard for anyone anywhere to maintain a sane, balanced, lifestyle. Your parents' aspirations are unworkable. Yet I see in the young the same spirit that will carry them through with new ideals and ideas into the future, full of optimism.

Life is so precious. Don't waste it.

the end is automatically the beginning John...but we go as we are...we need to travel light.