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The investigation into the death of Princess Diana was named Operation Paget?

You may find this interesting, maybe not.

You may not believe this but I can assure you a lot of people in high positions do.

Never judge their morality (nae sanity) against your own.

"Let me tell every woman, however much " protected", whether Dairymaid or Duchess, that the safeguards which she imagines to be thrown around herself are but a mirage of the past. Her own and her children's future are at the mercy of those [occult] forces."
- Edith Starr Miller
Who died in Paris under suspicious circumstances in 1933 and who was authoress of the book Occult Theocrasy which was published after her sudden death by her friends.

She was married to Almeric Hugh Paget, 1st Baron of Queenborough, Union Party MP, House of Lords, Knight of the Order of the British Empire, First Treasurer of the League of Nations, and member of British Union of Fascists.

And was a Knight of Malta as was Lord Stevens who headed the Metropolitan Police investigation into Princess Diana's death.

See Knights of Malta



Occult Theocrasy - Edith Starr Miller - Page 146

- Edith Starr Miller - Occult Theocrasy.

Tim Geithner is current Pilgrim Society President of the Knights of Malta

All the members of the 1910 Jekyll Island meeting were Pilgrim Society Members, a branch of the Knights of Malta.

The penultimate chapter of Occult Theocrasy is called International Bank. Page 647.

Queen Elizabeth II is also a member of the Knights of Malta

So is George Bush, Oliver North, Nelson Mandela, David Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, J Edgar Hoover and James Jesus Angleton

And Tony Blair


The father of the man on the left was an Irgun Terrorist who killed British people.
He's in charge of militarizing Youth Brigades.

Before Tony Blair gave a pro-Clinton speech during the impeachment crisis, Emanuel reportedly screamed into Blair's face:

"Don't f__k this up"

And yes he also is a Knight of Malta.

A man who would sell his mother

Oh and so is Clinton.

See Bank Bailout documents



Jamie Dimon - Knight of Malta
Richard Kovacevich - Knight of Malta
John Thain - Knight of Malta
Nothing on John Mack, however the JP Morgan Stanley building was where Knights of Malta meetings took place.
Lloyd Blankfein - Knight of Malta
Robert Kelly - Jesuit trained Knight of Malta
Ronald Logue - another Jesuit trained Knight of Malta.

Nothing on Citigroup apart from Rockefeller - Knight of Malta.

October 13th ay? Took them 701 years.

Anybody see a pattern here?

Here's how the Queen always greets a Pope.


John Paul II


John XIII

Windsor, Queen Elizabeth Mary II (1926-)

* See also: House of Guelph, Guelphs and Ghibellines, Mountbatten-Windsor (her personal surname)
* Queen of England since 1953, married to Prince Philip Mountbatten. The Queen has been, and might still be, a major stockholder in the Rio Tinto Group and other large corporations. No official details are ever released.
*
* Knight of Malta info:
o "the Commonwealth of Nations, headed by Queen Elizabeth II, is made up of 53 nations, spanning the globe, accounting for one-fifth of the land mass of the Earth, and a very high percentage of its strategic resources and population. Though nominally an alliance of independent states, the Commonwealth was itself founded, in the late 19th Century, as a perpetuation of the British Empire."
o "She commands some of the Maltese Cross's inner hierarchy cores such as Pilgrim Society and Order of the Garter. Remember how this Guelph has control over the United States which has always been controlled by the Hudson Bay Company or should we say Russel Trust. She so-called owns 1/6th of the Earth's land! She's the wealthiest land owner in the entire World far excelling the Pope who's third."
o "And let's not forget the Queen of England and the Order of St.John in the USA : http://www.saintjohn.org/ and the so called Russian Grand Priory in exile now back in control of good old communist Russia another creation and evil experiment of the Vatican lead New World Order, this link represents the Russian Orthodox connection to the rulers of worldwide Christianity the Vatican and their Knights of Malta militia from Via Condotti...

Lammott du Pont, founder of the Du Pont dynasty - Knight of Malta

William Stamps Farish III born 1939 - Knight of Malta.

* The Bush-Farish axis had begun back in 1929. In that year the Harriman bank bought Dresser Industries, supplier of oil-pipeline couplers to Standard and other companies. Prescott Bush became a director and financial czar of Dresser, installing his Yale classmate Neil Mahlon as chairman. George Bush would later name one of his sons after the Dresser executive.
* William S. Farish was the main organizer of the Humble Oil Co. of Texas, which Farish merged into the Standard Oil Company of New Jersey. Farish built up the Humble-Standard empire of pipelines and refineries in Texas
* Bush and Farish: When George Bush was elected Vice President in 1980, Texas mystery man William (`` Will ) Stamps Farish III took over management of all of George Bush's personal wealth in a `` blind trust. Known as one of the richest men in Texas, Will Farish keeps his business affairs under the most intense secrecy. Only the source of his immense wealth is known, not its employment. Will Farish has long been Bush's closest friend and confidante. He is also the unique private host to Britain's Queen Elizabeth II: Farish owns and boards the studs which mate with the Queen's mares. That is her public rationale when she comes to America and stays in Farish's house. It is a vital link in the mind of our Anglophile President. President Bush can count on Will Farish not to betray the violent secrets surrounding the Bush family money. For Farish's own family fortune was made in the same Hitler project, in a nightmarish partnership with George Bush's father. On March 25, 1942, U.S. Assistant Attorney General Thurman Arnold announced that William Stamps Farish (grandfather of the President's money manager) had pled `` no contest to charges of criminal conspiracy with the Nazis. Farish was the principal manager of a worldwide cartel between Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey and the I.G. Farben concern. The merged enterprise had opened the Auschwitz slave labor camp on June 14, 1940, to produce artificial rubber and gasoline from coal. The Hitler government supplied political opponents and Jews as the slaves, who were worked to near death and then murdered. Arnold disclosed that Standard Oil of N.J. (later known as Exxon), of which Farish was president and chief executive, had agreed to stop hiding from the United States patents for artificial rubber which the company had provided to the Nazis.

Now I know from where the Pope gets his styling.



No danger of anyone peering into your thoughts, you don't have any.

Still interesting response from you, you wouldn't be close to these people would you?

Why stop with just a hat, when ya can really go all out...
http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2010 ... more-11152

I definitely believe they have WAY too much power

well let's look at some Malta members
George H.W Bush
George W. Bush
Silvio Berlusconi
Grandmaster, Prince Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie (cousin of QEII) deceased.
(Former Prime Minister) Tony Blair
Michael Bloomberg

Precott Bush, Jr.
Frank Capra
(King) Juan Carlos
Frank Charles Carlucci III
William Casey
Michael Chertoff
Gustavo Cisneros
(President) Bill Clinton
(Cardinal) Terence Cooke
Gerald Coughlin
(Senator) John Danforth
John J. DeGioia
Cartha DeLoach
Giscard d'Estaing
Bill Donovan
Allen Dulles
Avery Dulles
(Archbishop) Edward Egan
Frank J. Fahrenkopf Jr.
Noreen Falcone
(Count) Franz Egon
John Farrell
Matthew Festing (79th Grand Master)
Edwin J. Feulner
Francis D. Flanagan
Raymond Flynn
Adrian Fortescue (16th century)
John C. Gannon
Licio Gelli
Reinhard Gehlen
Burton Gerber
Rudy Giuliani
Emilio T. González
Dr. Lawrence Gonzi
Sir John Gorman CVO
Thomas K. Gorman
J. Peter Grace
Lord Guthrie of Craigiebank
Gen. Alexander Haig
Cyril Hamilton
Otto von Hapsburg
William Randolph Hearst
Edward L. Hennessy, Jr.
(Baron) Conrad Hilton
Heinrich Himmler
Richard Holbrooke
J. Edgar Hoover
Leonard G. Horowitz
Daniel Imperato
Lee Iococca
Carl Nicholas Karcher
Francis L. Kellogg
Joseph Kennedy
(Senator) Ted Kennedy
Henry A. Kissinger
Bowie Kuhn
Cardinal Pio Laghi
Cathy L. Lanier
Joseph P. Larkin
Louis Lehrman
General de Lorenzo
Clara Booth Luce (Dame)
Henry Luce
Angus Daniel McDonald
George MacDonald
Nelson Mandela
Avro Manhattan
Alexandre de Marenches
John McCone
Thomas Melady
Sir Stewart Menzies
(Prince) Angelo di Mojana
Thomas S. Monaghan
Rupert Murdoch
Joseph A. O’Hare
Thomas 'Tip' O'Neill
Francis (Frank) V. Ortiz
Oliver North
George Pataki
Cardinal Patronus
Robert James "Jim" Nicholson
Oliver North
Fra Giancarlo Pallavicini
Fra Hubert Pallavicini
Franz von Papen
Baron Luigi Parrilli
Juan Peron
Peter G. Peterson
Harold A.R. 'Kim' Philby
Augusto Pinochet
John J. Raskob
(President) Ronald E. Reagan
John Charles Reynolds
George Rocca
Nelson Rockefeller
David Rockefeller
Francis Rooney
Rick Santorum
General Giuseppe Santovito
Antonin Scalia
Phyllis Schlafly (Dame)
Walter Schellenburg
Joseph Edward Schmitz (Blackwater)
Stephen A. Schwarzman
Frank Shakespeare
Martin F. Shea
Clay Shaw
William Edward Simon Jr.
Jennifer Sims
Frank Sinatra
Frederick W. Smith
Cardinal Francis Spellman
Francix X. Stankard
Steve Stavros
Myron Taylor
George Tenet
Fritz Thyssen
Richard Torrenzano
Admiral Giovanni Torrinsi
(Prince) Anton Turkul
Albrecht von Boeselager
Winfried Henckel von Donnersmark
Thomas Von Essen
Amschel Mayer von Rothschild
Robert Ferdinand Wagner, Jr
Kurt Waldheim
General Vernon A. Walters
Col. Albert J. Wetzel
Canon Edward West
Gen. William Westmoreland
Gen. Charles A. Willoughby
William Wilson
Robert Zoellick
Gen. Anthony Zinni

Additions or corrections welcomed.

The Oath of the Knights of Malta

just a few
I think some of those fellows were in pretty powerful positions
In fact the order of Malta has ruled US Presidency for 20 years
if you just take Clinton and Bushes and then add 8 years with Ronald Reagan
I can say that America's has steadily gone down hill under these men
these men are as CORRUPT as they come

Oh no Roger the Order of Malta is still very much in power
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/kmlst1.htm

I would bet these "honorary members" sent a few bucks to the Order of Malta

and that is participation ...
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

because lets face it these guys all have major bucks

and when I see Millionaires and Billionaires all in honorary status

its corrupted with $$$$$$

In his book, ‘Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army’, Jeremy Scahill links the modern security firm to the Knights of Malta.

The writer argues that “Blackwater’s employees… share the same religious zeal of ancient crusaders”, the Egyptian weekly newspaper Al-Ahram reported.

The point that gets missed here is that these people now own your bank account and can pull the plug at any time they choose.

This agreement was formulated on October 13th 2008. Exactly 701 years after the demise of the Knights Templar and the transference of their wealth to the Hospitallers

I was banned from Dafoe's Templar History website, he who shall not be named on this forum was kept on despite it was he who first began the insults and the spamming. I regard this banning as a trophy.

That tells you a great deal about that website.

They call it Diversion of a Discourse, it's lying to everyone else.

As prostitute Mandy Rice Davies once said in court:

"You would say that wouldn't you?"

The Sovereign MILITARY Order of the Knights of Malta

love the bit about former Nazi Kurt Waldheim being Knighted by the Pope.

It is one powerful organization

It goes WAY back
its been a puppet master behind the curtains

You know Roscoe
its the vow of Obedience that gets me
who do they Obey?

The Pope?

I saw a friend of mine being ordained and the surprising thing to me
was he vowed obedience to the BISHOP

not Jesus Christ not the Pope but the Bishop

then you get in conflict with being a citizen in the USA

I just think this Obedience thing is not the teachings of Christ
this is just Crusader nonsense and they didn't do well

Listen to

Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper. The number one underground best seller of all time. Which is made more remarkable inasmuch as you cannot order this book by credit card.

Better still get the book and read it yourself. William Cooper was shot and killed by the "police". in November 2001.

Bill Clinton (Knight of Malta) called William Cooper the most dangerous man in America. As children both Bill Clinton and William Cooper were intitiated into the De Molay Organisation

Alex Jones interviews William Cooper 1998 - Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Roscoe
I have read Cooper and he is fascinating

I got his book

It is like I said this being a soldier for Christ ....is wrong
the Crusades LOST ...if Christ was for it they would win

but they LOSE every time

you think that they would get it

it is not about War ...its about Peace

this thing about Royalty
didn't we spend centuries with Emperors and Kings just to find out that
they have no special bloodline ...they are human beings like everybody else

I love alice in wonderland
the Queen of hearts had no power once her subjects did not obey her

that is why Obedience is their number one rule
so they can rule over you

absolutely

Remember that these people have no skills to survive in a world without us and their ONLY strength is their Secrecy.

The truth will set us free

First off, go down your long list and take out every Jew and Protestant on it (including all American presidents) who received an award of merit from the SMOM, not knighthood or membership in the Order itself. Even our singular Catholic president wasn't admitted to the SMOM.

Secondly, in the consecration of a Catholic priest, obedience to Christ doesn't need to be stated, it's the entire point of the exercise. Priests promise to serve God and obey their bishops because their bishops are their hierarchical superiors.

TCP

THE KNIGHTS OF MALTA

The Scottish Branch of the Ancient High and Exalted Order of the Knights of Malta Through the Orange and Masonic Tradition






With Beringer Sauniere being a well known exception.

This is but one of many privately launched initiatives adopting the name and insignia while pretending to have an historical link to the SMOM (i.e. the St. John "copycats"). These are categorized as false orders, having nothing whatsoever to do with the historical Order of Malta.

http://www.chivalricorders.org/orders/self-styled/selfsty1.htm

Let's test your mettle and see if you can successfully identify the "lineage" of the copycat most relevant to our RLC enigma. Have a go, Roscoe.

TCP

Not exactly. The Venerable Order of St. John of Jerusalem (originally Anglican, now ecumenical) is actually not a branch of the SMOM. It was created in Britain in 1831 and chartered by Queen Victoria in 1888. Although it was recognized by the SMOM in 1963, it is an independent body claiming only a common history with the SMOM until 1558.

Likewise the Bailliwick of Brandenburg (Prussia) was an historic branch of the German Langue of the SMOM which accepted Protestants. It was dissolved during the Napoleonic War and reinstituted in 1852 as the Johanniterorden under the protection of the Prussian Royal House. Together with its offshoots, the Johanniterorden i Sverige and Johanniter Orde in Nederland, these four primarily Protestant bodies constitute the Alliance of Orders of Saint John and are acknowledged by the SMOM as legitimate heirs to the St. John tradition in their respective countries, though entirely independent.

TCP

So there are Protestants Knights of Malta then? where do you supposed Tim Geithner and Rahm Emmanuel are coming from? Federal Reserve and Obama's advisor respectively.



I'm not sure how your brain works.

Let me try to guess what's going through your mind.

Disneyland?

No. To be admitted as a knight of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM) you have to be Roman Catholic. This is not a requirement to receive the SMOM's Order of Merit, but recipients are not given knighthood in the SMOM. Britain's Venerable Order of St. John and Germany's Johanniterorden (as well as its satellites in Sweden and The Netherlands) are recreations whose only ties to the SMOM are historical (pre-dating the Protestant Reformation). They are not members of the SMOM. And then there are dozens of other false recreations that have no authentic links to the SMOM whatsoever (like the one you turned up).



I knew it would go right over your head.

TCP

Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas Queen, Defender of the Faith, Duchess of Edinburgh, Countess of Merioneth, Baroness Greenwich,[N 1] Duke of Lancaster, Lord of Mann, Duke of Normandy, Sovereign of the Most Honourable Order of the Garter, Sovereign of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath, Sovereign of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Sovereign of the Most Illustrious Order of Saint Patrick, Sovereign of the Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George, Sovereign of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Sovereign of the Distinguished Service Order, Sovereign of the Imperial Service Order, Sovereign of the Most Exalted Order of the Star of India, Sovereign of the Most Eminent Order of the Indian Empire, Sovereign of the Order of British India, Sovereign of the Indian Order of Merit, Sovereign of the Order of Burma, Sovereign of the Royal Order of Victoria and Albert, Sovereign of the Royal Family Order of King Edward VII, Sovereign of the Order of Merit, Sovereign of the Order of the Companions of Honour, Sovereign of the Royal Victorian Order, Sovereign of the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem.

There's that Roman Catholic Queen again.



Correct title

Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and of Malta, Order of St. John, Knights of Malta, and Chevaliers de Malte;

May I recommend here for those troublesome split hairs.

Do you people get training on thread destruction? How is one recruited? Do you have to display a particular talent for pedantry and hair splitting?