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Book out now, though officially on October 13th, Robert Howells' "Inside the Priory of Sion", with a foreword by Nicolas Haywood.

"It investigates the idea that the Priory of Sion considers the bloodline revelations simply as the starting point for a whole succession of extraordinary disclosures centred on Rennes-le-Chateau. It reveals that Sion is releasing this information into the public domain not for its own purposes but to prepare the world for a catastrophe of global proportions."

If you wondered about the scope of what Nicolas Haywood was trying to convey in The Bloodline film and what his frames of reference were, Robert has decanted and filtered many years of research, thought and conversation into this presentation -

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inside-Priory- ... 934&sr=1-1

There is also a website -

http://robhowells.co.uk/

This ought to be interesting.

TCP

It does look interesting.
As it happens I only started reading Chaumeil's PoS book last week, and there are a few queries about some of the things he writes I'd like to post, when I get time. It'll probably be spread over the next month or two going by my reading habit.

Chaumeil states in his book that there is a letter confirming Sauniere was the sole representative for the sale of Rapeseed oil in the region, has anyone seen this letter?

RAPE SEED - Geddit?

I know I'm excited. Another website, another politically charge event, disclosures of epic proportions, the end of the world.
I wonder if he discloses (again ) that we can all be saved at Mt Bugarach potato mash or whether we all die because we're not "in" the crowd.

Decanted and filtered - I do like those words - very evocative of a bit of wine sipping.

Rape seed is commonly planted in fields to provide weed prevention and to await turnover. I think that was the point of the reference.

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Rape seed oil or canola oil.

Nope.

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Seed of rape?

Oh well done hotspur


Ok then, lets work through it.

We all know what rapeseed is and we all know Sauniere had nothing to do with the sale of this common crop. So what is it all about?

As our source is Chaumeil, we can guess that his source would be the chief trickster himself, de Cherisey.
What does he mean?
'The representative' = the one who knows
'The sole representative in the region' = the only one who has that particular knowledge
'For the sale of' indicates that the knowledge was passed on.
'Rapeseed' is the subject of the knowledge.
So who or what is meant by 'rapeseed'?

Rapeseed is the seed of (the) rape (plant)
Who could well have been the result of rape?

Historical research shows that Mary Magdeline could have been raped and consequently Jesus Christ himself could be what is being referred to as 'rapeseed' by Chaumeil.

Would Chaumeil himself have realised this is what he was writing? Who knows. This could well have been some of the bounty from the infamous move he assisted de Cherisey with. What we do know is that the PoS would want us to believe there is something special about the Rennes area and Sauniere was at the heart of it.

Could the seed of rape be Jesus Christ himself?

The researcher, much beloved and respected by many in this forum, Tony Bushby, in his The Bible Fraud, says that the Talmud mentions Jesus twenty times and that he was born the illegitimate son of a Roman soldier called Panthera (Busby goes on to argue this person was Tiberius, the Roman Emperor).

Bushby also says that the Koran says that Mary was raped.

a French priest speaking in French would use the word Colza, from the Dutch koolzaad. If he spoke Occitan he would have said Colzà.....If he spoke Latin he would have called it Brassica napus . Rapeseed is an English word derived from the Latin for turnip, rāpa or rāpum.

However, any trade in colza oil would probably be the other way around, with Saunière trading it down from the North of the country...another interesting connection with the area around Lille.


En France, la production d'huile de colza a pris une grande importance dans les années 1750-1850 dans les départements du nord de la France et notamment en Flandre. Les Statistique du département du Nord du préfet Dieudonné montrent que la culture du colza s'étend alors dans le nord : « Le colza est celle de ces plantes qui est cultivée le plus généralement et avec le plus d’abondance dans les arrondissements de Lille, Hazebrouck et Douai."

« la Flandre est la contrée du monde où la culture des plantes oléagineuses et la fabrication de l’huile ont pris, depuis longtemps, le plus d’extension, et ont fait le plus de progrès. On compte autour de Lille, près de deux cents moulins à huile, appelés tordoirs, que le vent fait mouvoir et depuis 1814 on établit chaque année, des machines à vapeur destinées au même usage »

Hi,

It has long puzzled me why some people think that a bloodline descended from Jesus would constitute 'incontrovertible' proof that Jesus a mere mortal! As far as I can see, a bloodline descended from Jesus has no real implications as far as the broad Catholic statement of faith is concerned.

However... 'incontrovertible' proof that Jesus was the bastard son of a Roman...does that have implications...

What an interesting narrative that could be

Regards,

Spartacus

Agreed. But bear in mind Boudet's LVLC, a book of two parts. One part concerns the stones while one part, seemingly bizarrely, links the French and English languages.

Also, bear in mind that the most famous phrase in the RLC puzzle, a phrase of four words, is actually composed of four languages.

The fact is that if Sauniere had anything to do with trading in crops we would have proof of it by now. There must be another explanation for Chaumeil's words.

Did you realise Chaumeil's book is a translated book and it was originally written in French?

Hence the reason why Sheila is correcting the translation to put into perspective.

Also I believe Lille was mentioned before, maybe Sheila's trying to point to the area as well.

Do you always leap in without reading what people have written??

Yes, i am aware that Sheila was drawing our attention again to Lille and am aware why.
And of course i realise that Chaumeil wrote in French.
The reason for my post has gone completely over your head

Is the French that Sheila gave a retranslation of Chaumeil's passage?
I think you will find it is simply two passages Sheila found detailing the trade of rapeseed + oil at the relevant time in French history that above all, mention Lille.

You might be more productive chilli tasting after all

"selon Chaumeil, Saunière à un fructueux négoce d'huile de Colza"

according to Chaumeil, Saunière was a "profitable Colza oil trader".

Oh really....


Il faut entre 3 et 4 kilos de graines pour faire un litre d'huile de colza ...et un Pressoir.

so.... (according to rapeseed monthly) to make a litre of rapeseed oil you need 3 to 4 kilos of seed...and a press to extract the oil.

....there's something else going on here dontcha think

There is a Pressoir at Rennes le Château at the original old church i believe......but in a bizarre Lovuian kind of way i find myself back at... Gethsémani (Gat-Shémanîm) = pressoir à huile ......“Gethsemane” which means “oil press”.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressoir_mystique

....and let's not forget Louis de Coma and his l’Oeuvre de Gethsemane ....Louis de Coma, the man who set the standard for priests behaving strangely.






so if we are going to be wandering down blind-alleys (and admit it, we do it a lot), i'd at least like to make the detour interesting

..... but if you press a chilli it falls like rain

Ok, sorry, i'll stop that ... but sometimes the low hanging fruit are just too tempting.


Sheila you could well be on to something here, your detours are never anything but interesting!

Yes the oil press could be the route to take, what with the blue apples and everything.
Ah yes, the oil press. It just so happens i have a poem entitled 'The Press' up my sleeve for just an occaision such as this. I could post it if anyone is interested.

And didn't i start a thread ages back called 'A Happy Death'? Can't remember what it was about, but it didn't have a long life.

http://jhaldezos.free.fr/ville%20rennes ... 0_1878.pdf


or maybe it was just rapeseed oil.... was it Saunière's idea to get rid of the pétrole (paraffin?) lamp that always burned in the sanctuary...and neccessitate the urge to buy and install a new lamp that would run on rapeseed or olive oil ? Never one to miss an opportunity that man.

However it doesn't change the fact that it was the Lille and Flanders area... and to a certain extent Normandie, that were renowned for their Colza production...and not the Razé.

What would interest me is some convincing information on how each of these persons is connected to or in touch with the prieure de sion. At least we know Chaumeil, Sandri, etc. were in contact with the inventors. And still we know they cannot be trusted to tell the truth. With the above persons, it is even worse.

I think the basement at Watkins Books will be the only safe place to be when the world explodes.

TCP

That might explain the connection to Chefdebien and a certain Habsburg who produced a particular award-winning vintage that Saunière was thought to be quite fond of.

Agri-business, how DULL!

TCP

Can I join you there?