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Hi,

While I am almost certain that practically no cares about this in the slightest, I think I should point out that the current background controversy about the true identity of Spartacus Paraclete is of only the mildest interest to me (or almost anyone else, I'm sure). I take no offence at any previous discussion of said identity, and no one needs fret or worry over anything related to what is really a very insignificant issue.

The claim that Spartacus Paraclete is an Irish woman named Deborah has been in the public domain for quite some time (for example, from the Priory of Sion Bibliography):



So, just to reiterate, no one needs to worry at all about this issue...

Are we all supposed to start posting: "I'm Spartacus!" now?


[I'm not Spartacus, and neither is my wife]

Are you a woman Spartacus? Are you the author of that book?

So what is the purpose of this pointless controversy? Is it to boost book sales by an author called Spartacus Paraclete who in his/her preface thanks TCP for his help?

Your a strange one Spartacus that's for sure......

What is it about the fact that I helped him and he acknowledged me for it that's pissed you off, Tina? Not everyone just lifts other people's material and calls it their own "original research", you know. Maybe you're not associating with the right people...?

TCP

Well, you did use Deborah's e-mail address for the longest time, so...

TCP

There is an utterly pointless kerfuffle going on in the background that you are unaware of. This silliness prompted me to make a public statement to head off future silliness. Just let it go, Tina...

As for my acknowledgement of both Peter O'Reilly and Tim, it was simply merited for the help they both provided me during my research. Acknowledging people who have helped is pretty standard practice for honest researchers!

If you don't want me getting a 'book sales boost' ( ) simply don't post on this thread and it will quickly disappear without trace...

Exactly... so no issue

Nice to know the wheels keep turning even when I'm gone for a couple of days.



"Internet Celebrity" was a bit much, but I appreciate the nod just the same!

TCP

I felt it was very appropriate

Btw, check your email when you get a chance...

Pissed me off? What makes you think I am pissed off Tim?
I was trying to establish whether Spartacus/ Debbie was the same Spartacus we know and love from here, this is a very bizarre way to launch a new book, most folk would just say "here is a link to my new book, check it out"......no need to make a drama

That kerfuffle ended days ago Sparacus, you started a pointless controversy thread to cause controversy instead of doing the logical thing as I have just said to Tim, I couldn't care less who did or didn't help you write it, that was not the point, I was assuming (correctly as it seems) that you were the same Spartacus person because of your association, there is enough disinformation regarding names as you have also pointed out so why do it?

Don't worry Spart, I see what your trying to do so will let it go

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, as per usual Tina!

My book became available about three months ago. However, I took a conscious descision not to mention it here on Arcadia because, simply put, I felt very few people here would be receptive to anything I've written. There's nothing in it at all, at all, about Space Aliens or the Magdalene, a Jesus bloodline, a 'pretendy' ancient artifact, or even the Templars!

Also, I'm fairly sure there is enough antipathy here, from people such as yourself and Roger for example, for someone to dash off and give it a poor review irrespective of its contents, so trying to 'sell' it here was the last thing on my mind...

However, extremely foolish events that you are completely unaware of meant I felt it important to make some form of statement that is designed to preempt future 'spin' from someone who dislikes me even more than you and your absent leader do, if you can fathom such a thing! Unfortunately, under advice, I can't say anything more for now, but I'm sure it'll rear its ugly head again and then all will will be revealed . Or perhaps Andy Gough might be good enough to just pop in for a moment and at least confirm the existence of said kerfuffle, without any need for further elaboration!

Btw, I find it incredible, Tina, that you needed confirmation that this Spartacus Paraclete is the same as the other Spartacus Paraclete who wrote a book about the Priory of Sion! Jeez, how many Spartacus Paraclete do you think are out there with an interest in the Priory of Sion?

Anyways, thanks for all your help With enemies like you, who needs frenemies or even friends...

Well, kerfuffles aside, I'm glad you mentioned it here, because if you hadn't, I wouldn't have known about it, and wouldn't have just downloaded a copy onto my Kindle. Congratulations on publishing it. I think a dispassionate overview of the history and ideology of the PdS is a very worthwhile endeavour, and I look forward to reading it.

Btw, I never got the whole drunken old lady in Dublin analogy, since you obviously write in the male vernacular. For perhaps obvious reasons, I always get a Kirk Douglas image in my head whenever I see your avatar.

it is being continued beyond this forum, tina by a certain pointless member

Fair enough, we didn’t know that though, so starting a thread called pointless controversy in this way is not helping the situation, it is unnecessary and pointless and causing controversy, just look how a simple question has blown out of all proportion yet again!!! I am not interested in anyone’s personal spats, a simple yes I am the same Spartacus that wrote the book would have sufficed, a bit of clarity was all I asked for.



And Spartacus, despite what you think of me I don’t hold grudges, I am not your enemy and I will also read your book not as a critic but as someone who is genuinely interested in the POS, like Richard I also think any new information is welcome on this subject especially when there has been so much disinformation written about it in the past. IF I do have any criticism I will speak to you privately about it, that’s what I usually do, it is the fairest way in my opinion, I acknowledge the hard work involved in writing a book.

Thank you, Richard. Would you believe that you are the one person (apart from Andy, Paddy, and Tim, who are all mentioned in the text) who I was tempted to notify, as I find your book reviews here extremely well-written, whether or not I agree with your opinion. I'd be very interested to hear what you think. I hope you'll tell me when you get a chance to read it. And you can be bluntly honest, as I am always! How could I expect anything less?

You see, despite the claims by the rascally lcremote, I do not claim to be descended from anyone other than my mother, I have no access to secret files or Sion aligned Deep Throats, or people with secret connections. I don't know where Mary Magdalene is buried, nor do I have any kind of clue whether the Templars had any hidden treasures. My 'discoveries' will not cause a 'firestorm of controversy', nor shatter 'the Church', nor liberate women. What I have done is simply examined everything again (the same stuff available to you or I, or anyone else) and attempted to understand it, without the layers subsequently laid upon it be HBHG, DVC etc...

Unfortunately, my work eventually reached over a thousand pages, so I felt it needed to be divided up into sections. This first book is my examination of Pierre Plantard in the crucial 1950s period. There is no major controversial contention (something I was told by all 'the experts' the book must have), so I will not need to scramble around trying to defend the indefensible. What I had hoped was that some of the observations I have made will be expanded upon by others more able than I! I do not speak French, nor live in France, so others might be better placed to elaborate upon things upon which I have only barely touched. For this reason, I made a point of acknowledging anyone whose research or observations influenced my own thoughts in specific places. My hope is that where and when my work needs to be corrected or updated, I'll include any new developments, with full acknowledgement of provider, in later editions. As such, I welcome all critics of my narrative.

However, I will, of course, pay little or no attention to those half-wits who have an axe-to-grind. Anyone who knows me at all will realise, for example, that the supposed 'review' of my book mentioned above [Throwaway naive attempt to legitimise and rationalise the activities of charlatan Pierre Plantard by a member of the Fringe Community [meaning Arcadia member] who takes The Priory of Sion seriously] is hogwash. I do not take the Priory of Sion seriously at all, at all

Thank you again, Richard, and I look forward to your feedback...

Regards,

Spartacus

No, no, no, Tina, you are again completely clueless! I started the thread, as I have explained and you have either failed to grasp or simply believe, because I felt the need to make a public statement that will allow me to counter 'spin' which I feel is going to come out some point in the future. Considering all the nut-jobs and deep antipathy that inhabit this genre, I felt it was the most prudent course considering what I was being told 'behind-the-scenes'! You can accept that or not. You are utterly irrelevant, other than your unerring ability to allow me to make my points even more emphatically, and for that, I salute you. With enemies like you who needs frenemies or enemies. Thanks again...

And was unfortunately added to by other events that were beginning to take a hysterical and much more nefarious turn! However, I gave my word I would not divulge what was/is going on, so I cannot, unfortunately, elaborate. However, considering the people involved, I felt I must do something at least to, as they say, 'cover my own ass', when all this nonsense comes out in the future, as it surely must, this genre being what it is! Those of you have dealt with the various nut-jobs and aggresive agenda driven hoaxers that inhabit this genre will perhaps sympathise with my plight (none of this btw is directed at lcremote, who I find to be a breath of fresh air)...

you didn't know...some do here some don't. I'd imagine SP's post was aimed at those that do know or have maybe been feed info

however you wouldn't confirm or deny if it was in fact you that cut Nick Haywood's chin whilst shaving him

got your number

Sigh……ok MR ANGRY, if that is your attitude I will keep my money…
There really should be a shaking head emoticon.

That’s fair enough but this is a public forum and WE (as in all those that haven’t a clue what is going on here) are not mind readers.

As I've said elsewhere, I'll neither confirm nor deny my true role in the supposed event...

For any who are wondering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFbCS4a14J4