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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 2:46 am 
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I'm quite certain that, if there even is a prieure de sion secret, neither Haywood, nor you, nor Chaumeil, nor anyone here know what it is. But chances are that there is no such thing.


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Tertius wrote:
I'm quite certain that, if there even is a prieure de sion secret, neither Haywood, nor you, nor Chaumeil, nor anyone here know what it is. But chances are that there is no such thing.



In other words, Roger, you haven't a clue either.

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I can't speak for Roger, despite your insistence. And I don't have a clue to tell you the secret, if there is a secret, but more than enough clues to tell you what it isn't. Why are you people so unpleasantly juvenile? Do you prefer to know nothing?


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Methinks the Tertius doth protesth too much :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
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And I don't have a clue to tell you the secret, if there is a secret, but more than enough clues to tell you what it isn't.

I am sure you are more than welcome to say what you think it isn't, along with your reasons.


Do you prefer to know nothing?

This requires a value judgement about what you might have to offer. Seems a particularly Rogeresque kind of comment. But let's pretend for the moment, it wasn't said. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
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Tertius wrote:
I'm quite certain that, if there even is a prieure de sion secret, neither Haywood, nor you, nor Chaumeil, nor anyone here know what it is. But chances are that there is no such thing.


If there was a "core secret" it would be with the Priesthood - the very old "Priesthoods".

Priory of Sion is obviously not one of them besides the fact that nobody can date them including themselves :lol: they still fall in the A.D.'s

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rain wrote:
Tertius wrote:
I'm quite certain that, if there even is a prieure de sion secret, neither Haywood, nor you, nor Chaumeil, nor anyone here know what it is. But chances are that there is no such thing.


If there was a "core secret" it would be with the Priesthood - the very old "Priesthoods".

Priory of Sion is obviously not one of them besides the fact that nobody can date them including themselves :lol: they still fall in the A.D.'s


1956 A.D.'s

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Spartacus Paraclete wrote:

1956 A.D.'s




:lol: :lol: :lol:

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hotspur wrote:
Spartacus Paraclete wrote:

1956 A.D.'s




:lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
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hotspur wrote:
Spartacus Paraclete wrote:

1956 A.D.'s




:lol: :lol: :lol:


So what are the reasons for the others dates? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
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In one way Tertius maybe right in his point
Haywood maybe speaking for one branch of the Priory

but there are other branches who have no intention of speaking

Haywood and Plantard both admit there are other branches of the Priory

It is interesting the position of a Grandmaster
he or she would have to lead all the branches

Plantard resigned his

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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
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Tertius wrote:
I'm quite certain that, if there even is a prieure de sion secret, neither Haywood, nor you, nor Chaumeil, nor anyone here know what it is. But chances are that there is no such thing.


I wouldn't argue with that. What I am quite assured of, however, is that certain individuals cited under pseudonyms in the so-called "Priory Documents" as having been involved with the "Priory" in the 1960s and 1970s were not, and in fact were actively and concurrently engaged in creating their own neo-chivalric myth that bore striking similarities, but was eventually abandoned because of Gérard de Sède, Pierre Plantard, and Philippe de Chérisey.

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rain wrote:
If there was a "core secret" it would be with the Priesthood - the very old "Priesthoods".


One might even go so far as to call it an alternative pontificate, historically annotated but thought (likely correctly) to have disintegrated centuries ago.

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avons-nous meme besoin d'un Prieure de Sion?

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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
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hotspur wrote:
This requires a value judgement about what you might have to offer. Seems a particularly Rogeresque kind of comment. But let's pretend for the moment, it wasn't said. :)


Tertius' case might be helped if he didn't seem to have the identical (and repetitive) bêtes noires and vernacular peculiarities as the one he claims not to know. :lol:

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wayward wrote:
avons-nous meme besoin d'un Prieure de Sion?


Bill not really
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I have a question for all you guys and gals
give me your thoughts

A Grandmaster
the title Plantard said he held but the resigned

A Grandmaster of the Temple such as De Molay
owed allegiance to the Pope
Was he appointed or elected?
Any thoughts?

does the Grandmaster owe his allegiance to a higher power?
is it a democratic process where others can vote you out or vote you in

I feel that Plantard's resignation as Grandmaster sounded like it was forced
[img]avons-nous meme besoin d'un Prieure de Sion?

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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
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lovuian wrote:
A Grandmaster of the Temple such as De Molay
owed allegiance to the Pope
Was he appointed or elected?


Elected.

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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
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Thanks TCP
that is what I thought

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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
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identical (and repetitive) bêtes noires and vernacular peculiarities


Oh I now understand. In this forum, any person who is French and doesn't like false statements ipso facto is a Roger. Merci, tout est clair maintenant. Parmi mes betes noires, les gens qui pensent que les Etats Unis sont le nombril du monde.


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Tertius wrote:
Parmi mes betes noires, les gens qui pensent que les Etats Unis sont le nombril du monde.

No, no, la Grande Nation est le nombril du monde. :lol:


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Tertius wrote:
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identical (and repetitive) bêtes noires and vernacular peculiarities


Oh I now understand. In this forum, any person who is French and doesn't like false statements ipso facto is a Roger. Merci, tout est clair maintenant. Parmi mes betes noires, les gens qui pensent que les Etats Unis sont le nombril du monde.


I'm French (by ancestry) and I don't like false statements. According to your understanding that makes me Roger. But, being Roger yourself, you know that isn't possible, so instead you "unmask" me as your greatest annoyance, Thomas D.

No, the common level of snark exhibited by most Frenchmen as a general matter of course was not what gave you away. It was your targeted criticism of exactly the same people and things that irritated you in your previous incarnation, the same narrow points of contention, the same sweeping dismissals delivered in the same imperious tone and terminology. You do about as well when it comes to hiding your identity as Jake did.

You wouldn't last 48 hours in the witness protection program, I'm afraid. :lol:

And frankly, I would have thought this sort of charade beneath you, given what I understood at the time was your background. I guess I overestimated you.

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Eginolf wrote:
Tertius wrote:
Parmi mes betes noires, les gens qui pensent que les Etats Unis sont le nombril du monde.

No, no, la Grande Nation est le nombril du monde. :lol:


The French guard their antique myths so jealously, don't they? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
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I don't think, from what I've read here, that underestimating you is a realistic problem.

And you are as French as that American French's Yellow Mustard, autrement dit: pas du tout.

Bonne continuation.


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Tertius wrote:
And you are as French as that American French's Yellow Mustard, autrement dit: pas du tout.


In my manners and affinities - no, not very much, dieux merci! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Inside the Priory of Sion
PostPosted: 27 Oct 2011 12:31 pm 
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Hi,

On p44 Howells writes that:

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In the 1950s Sion deposited a collection of documents called the Dossier Secrets in the Bibliotheque National


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