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edited to add what I wrote in my very first post on this forum:

Work harder for what? It's not like he's ever going to produce a book this subject requires. As for readership, maybe he should check out how many people actually care by the way these topics are treated on this forum.

Rain wrote:

Roger wrote:



Who's we? Some of the forum members have been a great help. However, I can honestly say that almost nothing you, Roger, have pretended to supply, has been in any way useful. It's all much too vague, and so loaded with superbia that it is completely useless, to me at least.

However, I take your point about 'essay style' questions. No more will be forthcoming, to you anyway. As for my request for a translation, Tim had earlier offered to translate just such an extract, so my mention of 'esteemed Francophone' was directed at him.

Pot - Kettle - Black, me thinks...

OMG I can't believe you just did that. I posted up the Page 7 quote to specifically to edify Roger's comment, Spartacus and you use it to impugn the very person that helped point out what Brian Crozier's role was.

OMG, OMG. Good luck with that book, you must have a lot invested in it to turn on the very person whom has helped you like Roger has.

Rain wrote:



OMG, OMG, OMG...I have no idea what you're on about...

Roger wrote:



On this forum, no. Elsewhere, however, your 'carrier-wave' post was interesting, for obvious reasons.

Roger wrote:

Any time, Spart!

TCP

Tim wrote:



Thank you...

Regards,

Spartacus

Monsieur doing it the Paul Smith way?

OK, in my best Franglish (subtle linguistic nuances may have been butchered in the translation, but I think I captured the essence):

Leon Gursillon, leftist, succeeds Claudius Montessuit

In the elections of spring 1953, Claudius Montessuit headed a list of leftist candidates (as previously?); the rightists of Jean Deffaugt replacing the MRP (who stand alone?). These list (of candidates) is generally successful, but he does not want to be the mayor; and a professional watchmaker, Leon Guersillon, a former counselor resistant to the leftists since 1945, is elected mayor.

Jean Deffaugt was the first adjunct. Claudius is a simple counselor, but he intends to influence the course of affairs in the president's business planning.

The new team wanted to implement the municipal plan “Palanchon” to be officially signed in 1955, they consulted regularly with the chief engineer of the Ministry of Urban Development for large-scale operations. The mayor often has to go to Paris to defend the records (pursue plans?) and obtain grants.

The long-awaited pre-school opened at the beginning of 1955 alongside the old Floquet stadium. Land acquisitions had been long and difficult. It took the persistence of Leon Guersillon to succeed.

The city built two buildings at Romagny to house municipal employees and college faculty to avoid the premature departure (retirement?).

The town hall was enlarged along the rue de la Gare and the rue de Commerce. There was housed, at that time, the state services. The city purchased land for future schools at Romagny, Sous-Cassan and Hutins, and roads intended to serve the Places de la Liberation and Le Marche-de-Gros, other (land) for the enlargement of the hospital and new slaughterhouses at Brouarz. A Parks and Gardens Service was created near the city park. The town that spent nearly $ 50 million from 1950 to 1954 for the enlargement of the college and received derisive grants (inadequate?), finally got the nationalization of the college in May 1956, which permitted them to get a subsidy of 65% for (raising the elevation?) of the central structure and two wings.

The first housing project (subdivision/) was realized by the housing agencies in connection with CIL - mentioned above - at Sous-Cassan, at Chateau Rouge where 250 homes were built on an area of 32,000 square meters. In hindsight, they may have regretted the destruction in June, 1957, of the chateau of Baron de Beaufort, which could have been acquired and repaired. That is where the Baron Foncet-Montailleur had drafted the Treaty of Turin in 1754 between Sardinia and Geneva.

In 1956 a committee was formed in order to reestablish a new monument to/for Michel -Servet to replace one that has been taken by the Germans in 1942, chaired by the Deputy Mayor of Lyon, Edouard Herriot; it comprised (included?) the scholar Jean Rostand, C . Roch, of the family of the first sculptor, the deputies Boccagny and Briffod, former deputy Guy Amedee, Claudius Montessuit, general counsel, and the mayors of Annemasse, Leon Guersillon, of Gaillard, Louis Simon, of Ambilly, Mordiconi, and the Associations (Free-Thinkers, League of Human Rights, League of Education, National Union of Teachers, whose clerk is Michel Colombier, a teacher from Gaillard and veritable kingpin of the operation). The municipal council of Annemasse voted to grant 411.000 francs. The new statue, inspired by the work of Clothilde Roch Clothilde, is placed at the disposal of the committee.

Leon Guersillon energetically defended (promoted?) the project, finally approved by the Ministry on 18 December 1958.

The location is at the entrance to the municipal park, along the rue de Geneve, "in an environment conducive to contemplation and meditation.” The inauguration of the new monument to/for Michel-Servet was held September 4, 1960, under the chairmanship of Mr. Bradlaugh-Bonner, president of the World Union of Freethinkers, by Claude Montessuit, and Leon Guersillon, chairman of the restoration . The general tone of 1960 is marked by the spirit of the Resistance against Vichy and the affirmation of tolerance.

In a completely different area, Annemasse was classified as a health resort on October 16, 1957, by a decree published in the Journal Officiel on October 18, and immediately revived the hope of Claudius Montessuit to obtain permission to build a casino . He maked contact with the head of the Divonne Casino and chose the location of the municipal park. The municipality offered Fantasia, close to the road to Geneva ...

During the tenure of Leon Guersillon, one notes an air of inter-municipal (cooperation?) with the formation of a syndicate to study the water supply of the Annemasse region, likely to become a united works project.

Transportation preoccupied the elected representatives: the Geneva company was not willing to renew the Moellesulaz-Annemasse lease deals; also, in June 1958, the elected officials in Annemasse, Gaillard and Ambilly an inter-union station (for?) Moellesulaz-Annemasse, the president was Leon Guersillon and the vice-chairmen (were) the mayors of Ambilly, Mordiconi, and of Gaillard, Louis Simon.

We cannot measure in this period the importance it might have had if the choice of a modern tramway proposed by the Genevois and adaptation of urbanism could have been known, in the future, for the road de Geneve, with a renovated tramway. But this mode of transportation seems to have become outdated - the city of Lyon, for example, replaced them with trolley buses.

Annemasse further defended the Annemasse-Sixt railroad before the General Council (which) wanted to remove it, assuming one third of the deficit: May 15, 1959, yet this is the last trip. The automobile killed the CEN.

At the national level, the IVth Republic died in May-June 1958: General de Gaulle returned to power invested by the last Assembly. He established new institutions approved by referendum in September 1958 by an electoral college of 80,000 notables in which city counselors made up the majority. The 23 counselors of Annemasse participated.

In municipal elections the following Spring, Leon Guersillon did not stand for health reasons.

Again, this is paraphrasing, not necessarily a word-for-word translation (except in places where I couldn't make sense of it). By the way, I hope there is useful information to be gleaned from this as it was mindbendingly dull to translate.

TCP

Hi Tim,

Thank you for that. My deepest apologies for putting you through it. The information gleaned clearly has absolutely nothing at all to do with the sacred feminine, the lost goddess, the Holy Grail, the holy blood, aliens, or even Satanists!

However, it does place the 1956 Priory of Sion in the context of its actual activities circa 1956 in Annemasse. Mayor Leon Guersillon is the guy whose letters state that the Priory of Sion's actual purpose was to become involved in the local housing committees, and as such was a political pressure group. Considering the huge sums of money involved (50m) the above text IMHO throws a new light on the issues involved. It also ties in with the observations made by myself and Paddy on the Plantard Council Housing Rep thread I started a few weeks ago. As noted on that thread, Plantard's home was Sous-Cassan (see above) and he supposedly put himself forward for the assembly elections. As such all of this is extremely relevant considering the incredible myths that have developed around Plantard and the Priory of Sion.

It is perhaps also worth pointing out that in the light of the above the Priory's stated purpose of trying to get a Priory built on Mount Sion becomes more concrete. IMHO most, if not all Sion researchers, probably thought that that stated aim was some form of subterfuge. However, considering that large sums of money was being made available for just such building projects, perhaps Plantard's attempt to become part of the lobbying process should by seen in a new light... particularly considering the claims made by Mayor Guersillon regarding the 'true' purpose of the Priory of Sion.

It also puts in context the generally accepted view that the 'housing committee' focus 'must' have been a Priory of Sion 'smokescreen' for something else. While that may well still be 'true', the above text does indicate just how 'real' the housing issue was in Annemasse during the period in question.

It also again, IMHO, calls into question the supposed testament attributed to 'Andre Bonhomme' regarding 'fun' and 'Boy Scouts' and his claim that the Priory of Sion was in no way political... And any insights the above text provides regarding potential political allegiances, I will leave for another day, for obvious reasons

I know, I know...none of this is in any way 'sexy'...but surely it should be of value to any serious Sion researcher. AFAIK nothing along these lines has been published in any English language studies of the Priory of Sion (focused as they are on goddesses, bloodlines, aliens, tombs, etc). Perhaps it has not even been developed in any French Sion studies. As such, your translation above could be a valuable piece of information for more lucid researchers.

For that, I salute you, sir. Perhaps you will now become a front-runner in le Prix Bérenger Saunière...

Regards,

Spartacus

Mystic Rog wrote:



I made my motives clear

Hey, I'm just helping an old friend out, no ulterior motives on my part.

TCP

You must feel so validated...

TCP

Oh, I'm sure none of us do!

TCP

Just to add a small piece to this old thread, but it's been reported today that six former members of the Waffen SS have been arrested in Germany recently, in connection with the 1944 massacre at Oradour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... pects.html

Yeah, I read that in the Daily Mail. I hope justice will at last prevail.