Come out Come out where ever you are?
I congratulate you on your studies and I greatly admire your passion
TCP that you admit your affiliation is commendable
You are under obligation to defend your Order
RS thanks for freely admitting it
but you do give a OATH not to divulge correct?
You do understand my point gentlemen
there are members of this forum who belong to ORDERS or Masons
even a few Opus Dei members perhaps
But speaking of Oath taking
Official Swiss History dates the roots of modern Switzerland to 1291http://www.bukisa.com/articles/286365_where-knights-templar-in-founding-switzerland#ixzz0oEwsCLKf
The ‘Bundesbrief’ had lain mouldering in an archive in Schwyz for centuries and had been widely ignored by everybody including historians. The document is basically a list of rights and duties of the population of the three signatory cantons in their relations with each other. It makes no claim to independence of the German Roman Empire. It is dated at the ‘beginning of August 1291’. It was in no way a unique document and most probably just a reiteration and elucidation of earlier documents now lost. Only two points out of many deal with armed conflict, all the rest concern civil matters.
Hans Schriber (translates to John the Scribe or Writer) collected the documents and legends relevant to the Swiss Confederation in 1470. He related the story of the oath of mutual armed assistance of the three cantons and dated it to 1307. The date comfortably coincides with Phillip IV of France move against the Knights Templar.
In 1307, King Phillip tried to have all Knights Templar in France arrested. He forced Pope Clement VII to disband the order in 1312 and had the last of his prisoners murdered in 1314.
In 1315, several hundred men from the three Swiss cantons faced the army of Duke Leopold of Habsburg made up of 2,000 knights and 9,000 foot soldiers. Leopold had set out on a punitive excursion on the behest of his brother, Duke Frederic of Austria and Styria. Together with his knights, he expected an easy little ride into Schwyz, some burning down of villages and farms, and then an easy ride back, as it was unthinkable that anybody but a knight would do battle against a knight. And the three cantons boasted no knighted local nobility.
Leopold was unaware of the fact that the Swiss had changed the rules. If the locals knew that as lowly farmers they were not allowed to touch the high and mighty knights, they didn’t care. Even worse, they had devised a new weapon that indicated their full intent and the change of rules: the halberd. Mounted on a long pole, the halberd is designed to bring down horses, pierce through visors, hack, slash, cut, and generally work as a tin opener on knights’ armour; a fitting weapon for the nation that would eventually invent the Swiss Army Knife. In a further change of rules, the Swiss didn’t take prisoners. Leopold lost more than 2,000 men that day, most of them knights, while the Swiss claim to have lost 12 men.
One wonders if a the Templars had a hand in the win it was around the turbulent times
but if you look at the oath of the Swiss guard it sounds familiar"I vow to faithfully, honestly and honorably serve the reigning Pope [name of Pope] and his legitimate successors, and to dedicate myself to them with all my strength, ready to sacrifice, should it become necessary, even my own life for them. I likewise assume this promise toward the members of the Sacred College of Cardinals during the period of the Sede Vacante of the Apostolic See. Furthermore, I pledge to the Commandant and to my other superiors respect, fidelity, and obedience. I swear to abide by all the requirements attendant to the dignity of my rank."
Always the Oath of Obedience
But after lying undiscovered for at least 300 years workmen accidentally stumbled upon Royston Cave (August of 1742), hidden under a heavy millstone and a covering of soil. The cave's discovery created much excitement. Today it still awes and inspires visitors who can see carvings depicting, among other images, knights, Saint George and Saint Catherine of Alexandria. Before the brief persecution, the Templars, assuming the cave was theirs, had no reason to hide below the ground, and they had wealth and access to stonemasons if they required religious carvings. It is thus suggested by storytellers and a few historians that Royston Cave is evidence 'fugitive' Templars continued to meet and worship in secret after the disbandment.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_in_England
Ben Hammott has some great pictures of Royston Cavehttp://www.benhammott.com/royston-templar-cave.html