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 Post subject: Knights of the Golden Circle
PostPosted: 27 Sep 2009 3:36 pm 
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Forgive me for inserting some Americana into our discussions ... maybe some U.S. lore is a nice counterbalance to French lore. And it's easier for me to research U.S. lore. :D

One of the Dan Brown spinoff sites recently mentioned this group. Interesting bunch. I bring them up because a) their existence is historically documented and b) there's a bunch of interesting questions in regards to what their relationship was to Masonry, Albert Pike (whose statue in DC is quite controversial), and ... the KKK.

And yes, they make a brief appearance in the second National Treasure movie, too. I understand the book Shadow of the Sentinel deals with the theory that they buried several caches at the end of the Civil War, and marked them with secret symbols. According to blurbs (never tracked down the book at any bookstore, and I tried, yes I guess I should just bloody order it from Amazon, but you know the drill) in the mix of the story is Jesse James, and Howard Hughes, who appeared in Misc. recently.

The Knights of the Golden Circle were pro-slavery and pro-Confederacy. What's more interesting is their ambitions and what the "Golden Circle" was actually supposed to be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of ... den_Circle

They wanted to build a slavery-based hemispheric empire organized in a circle around Cuba ... as slavery was declining in the U.S. they thought they'd form an alliance between the Confederacy & the slaveowning states of Latin America to keep it going.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Circle_(Slavery)
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Yes, Lov, I hesitate to point this out, but their Golden Circle was 32 degrees in diameter.

http://www.dailygrail.com/node/5679

A curious aspect of Bickley's plan was his use of the number 32. He set up 32 local chapters of his new group, and the 'golden circle' itself was 32 degrees in diameter. The KGC army was also to be composed of two divisions of 16,000 soldiers each - 32,000 together. Is there a link here to General Pike? As we have already noted, the 32 normal degrees of Scottish Rite Masonry, devised by Albert Pike, are said to have their basis in the 32 paths of wisdom in the Kabbalah.

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The obvious connection between the KGC and the KKK is of course, the name of the latter is a corruption of Knights of the Kuklos, Kuklos being circle in Greek.

Albert Pike ... thorny character. Yes, he was a Confederate General. In fact, one of the things he did for the Confederacy was help organize slaveowning Indian tribes into fighting on their side. However, it's not clear how much role he really played in creating the KKK. Or what involvement, if any, he had in creating the KGC. Many have demanded that his statue in Washington DC be taken down.

As for what connection Jesse James had with the KGC ... well, read it, and see if you believe it. I'm not sure yet whether or not I do.
http://www.knightsofthegoldencircle-kgc ... ideout.htm

http://www.bisonbill.com/Bison8.html
(a bit better written).

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PostPosted: 27 Sep 2009 4:56 pm 
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Here we go. Seek, and indeed you will find.

At least some of the pages of Shadow of the Sentinel.
http://tinyurl.com/yc2oh44

Reissued, I believe, as Rebel Gold. I tried to find it many places under either title, and never found it.
http://freemasonsfordummies.blogspot.co ... -gold.html

Yes, more treasure-hunting. They're trying to find these caches they believe the KGC left behind.

I think as always the history and lore may be the better treasure.

I can't say I agree with the political objectives of the KGC, but it's still an interesting - and maybe not fully explored - question as to whether they had any relationship with Masonry or not. It's often asserted - as so many things are - I'm just not sure if it's firmly established. Also, there have long been vague rumors about various European powers and societies backing the KGC movement. You even find hints of that in recent things like the Zorro movies with Antonio Banderas, or the Wild Wild West remake with Will Smith.

Interesting bio of one of their founders, George W. Bickley
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._L._Bickley

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 Post subject: Re: Knights of the Golden Circle
PostPosted: 28 Sep 2009 3:14 am 
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yes Seeker
I have been researching the American side
and the area you have circled is interesting

I live in the South and many here believe they never really lost the Civil War
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One of my FAVORITE movies is with Clint Eastwood
The Good The Bad and The Ugly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awskKWzjlhk
Remember it was about the treasure of the Confederates being taken to Mexico

Its a Classic
and notice the Circle in which our Golden Knight is dueling
surrounded by tombstones

cool!!! :mrgreen:

Oh one more thing the Civil War saw codes and invisible ink to send messages to agents

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