St Michael's Church at Garway

richard.webster · **Posted:** 23 Jul 2012 9:31 pm

Apparently M R James, the famous writer of ghost stories, had a peculiar experience when visiting Garway in 1917, according to a letter he wrote.

Quote:

We must have offended something or somebody at Garway I think: probably we took it too much for granted, in speaking of it, that we should be able to do exactly as we pleased. Next time we shall know better. There is no doubt it is a very rum place and needs careful handling.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pardo ... anchor4733

M R James, 1862 - 1936

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._R._James

rain · **Posted:** 23 Jul 2012 9:32 pm

richard.webster wrote:

lovuian wrote:

Sheila wrote:

I specifically like this photo and get a lovely feeling from the shape and composition of it...the carving has echoes of something Egyptian.

Thank you.

It does have an Egyptian feel but it has a Freemason feel too.

With regard to the serpent shape on the right, it's speculated in the article about the church that I put in the post above, that this could be a lamprey, which would make sense, as this eel-like fish was considered quite a delicacy in the middle ages. King Henry I of England famously died after over-indulging in them in Normandy in 1135.

This is a bit about lampreys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamprey

This is an illustration of them by Alexander Francis Lydon (1879).

Heston Blumenthal created a dish for one of his medieval feasts from Lampreys.
Nerve of a lamprey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZteNjBgJgbU

lovuian · **Posted:** 24 Jul 2012 12:33 am

richard.webster wrote:

lovuian wrote:

Michael the Archangel plays a part

This prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel, originally composed in Latin, was written by Pope Leo XIII in 1886.

Prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI has requested to say the prayer after mass

Speaking of St Michael, there is only one item of stained glass in the church, in the east window of the South (Templar) chapel; I don't know when it dates from. I presume this is St Michael, slaying a dragon.

It could be St George, who also killed a dragon, but St Michael seems more likely, as he's the saint to whom the church is dedicated.

You know I LOVE the stained glass windows Richard
but now remember your in a Templar church...look at the TRiangle and diamond white glass around St George
its the diamond or triangles connected again like the water font and solomon seal
Here is Arque's symbol ...the diamond
the Templars were here too

ice~maiden · **Joined:** 12 Apr 2011 9:32 am **Posts:** 9

lovuian wrote:

Here is the waterfont at Saint Michael

I think the triangle motif fits perfectly with the triangle pointing up male and the other triangle pointing down female
and the Solomon seal

On one face it has a cross with serpent image , the triangles number 24 in total ,on stones other marks of patriarchal crosses or a TK and hour glass-8 have been left. In 1294 it was supposedly visited by Grand Master Jacques de Molay .
The archway zigzag is similar to Cambridge round church or one at Shipley [st marys] .
Anyway there very nice photos

Whoop · **Joined:** 06 Jun 2012 3:54 pm **Posts:** 380

Hi Richard, I visited Garway (Garewi?) a few years ago. Certainly well worth a visit. Thanks for the lovely pictures.

TCP · **Posted:** 24 Jul 2012 5:44 pm

lovuian wrote:

It could be St George, who also killed a dragon, but St Michael seems more likely, as he's the saint to whom the church is dedicated.

If it was St. George he'd most likely be on horseback.

lovuian wrote:

but now remember your in a Templar church...look at the TRiangle and diamond white glass around St George
its the diamond or triangles connected again like the water font and solomon seal
Here is Arque's symbol ...the diamond
the Templars were here too

The "diamond symbol" at Arques is the blazon of the Voisins family, nothing to do with Templars.

Famille de Voisins

TCP

lovuian · **Posted:** 25 Jul 2012 3:21 am

TCP wrote:

lovuian wrote:

It could be St George, who also killed a dragon, but St Michael seems more likely, as he's the saint to whom the church is dedicated.

If it was St. George he'd most likely be on horseback.

lovuian wrote:

but now remember your in a Templar church...look at the TRiangle and diamond white glass around St George
its the diamond or triangles connected again like the water font and solomon seal
Here is Arque's symbol ...the diamond
the Templars were here too

The "diamond symbol" at Arques is the blazon of the Voisins family, nothing to do with Templars.

Famille de Voisins

TCP

Doh! Your right Tim but wasn't Voisin a lieutenant to Montfort 5th Earl of Leicester (1160 – 25 June 1218)
and sorry Somewhere I thought Arque had a connection to the Templars sorry for the oopsie

TCP · **Posted:** 25 Jul 2012 5:06 am

lovuian wrote:

Doh! Your right Tim but wasn't Voisin a lieutenant to Montfort 5th Earl of Leicester (1160 – 25 June 1218)

Yes, indeed.

lovuian wrote:

and sorry Somewhere I thought Arque had a connection to the Templars sorry for the oopsie

Don't let it happen again, or ah weel taunt yeu a segond tahme!

TCP

lovuian · **Posted:** 25 Jul 2012 3:08 pm

TCP wrote:

lovuian wrote:

Doh! Your right Tim but wasn't Voisin a lieutenant to Montfort 5th Earl of Leicester (1160 – 25 June 1218)

Yes, indeed.

lovuian wrote:

and sorry Somewhere I thought Arque had a connection to the Templars sorry for the oopsie

Don't let it happen again, or ah weel taunt yeu a segond tahme!

TCP

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