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However.......it is a Poussin.....here he is again;

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Ah, got it.

Poussin Teniers hold the key. Therefore something in the Poussin paintings must equate to something in the Teniers paintings. To give us the clue Teniers paints a Poussin. Which equates to .... the dove.

The dove symbolising Holy Spirit is turning the water in Teniers paintings into .... 'Holy Spirit'!! No wonder everyone wants to drink it.

In fact this is not too far removed from the Sainte Ampoule containing the Holy Chrism that Roger has been on about recently.

[Maybe Roger has his Chrism as a gift for 'Chrismas' after all.
All he has to do is balance a little chicken on his head and he and his mates can go ahead with their unholy mass. May get a little messy though. I'll volunteer to lend him a bib.]

Congratulations Sheila, looks like you've discovered the meaning of the Poussin Teniers clue in the small parchment.

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Yes, but......it's looking more like "Le poussin de Teniers" that hold a clue. I feel this little chick is very important. It's the Drink that rejeuvenates these people, check out the deformed feet of the ladies who are there to ask politely for a glass of this amber nectar and look at the before & after effects of those that have drunk it.

St Anthony was a Hermit in in the Natron Valley was he not?


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Natron Valley.

Famous for its lakes Natron and Magadi containing deposits of Nitre (Soda) and salt.
Famous since early times as a place where ascetics go for purification (by bathing). Drinking the water would not be recommended.
A link to a British Museum publication.

Don't forget the clue in the small parchment is
BERGERE PAS DE TENTATION QUE POUSSIN
TENIERS GARDENT LA CLEF etc

It seems that a shepherdess must be involved somewhere.
Err, YOU are a shepherdess are you not? Is this what was meant - or is it just serendipity?
[Actually this kind of thing is exactly what we should expect when solving this puzzle. RLC is no ordinary mystery as we are about to see!!!]

I see your point about the assorted demon feet.
Where are demons found?
Particularly demons that can be rescued and turned back to ordinary humans.

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Natron...a compound of Sodium Carbonate & Sodium Bicarbonate, used by the Egyptians in the process of mummification.


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Sheila wrote:
Natron...a compound of Sodium Carbonate & Sodium Bicarbonate, used by the Egyptians in the process of mummification.


So your conclusion is?


You seem to have stopped the Oak Island mob in their tracks. Nice one.

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Apparently, mistletoe can work more miracles than just helping break the ice in those office parties.

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/12/2 ... ancer.html


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Sheila wrote:
Apparently, mistletoe can work more miracles than just helping break the ice in those office parties.

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/12/2 ... ancer.html


something i need then, to discuss with my oncologist.
thanks Sheila!

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Sheila wrote:
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Sheila, take a look at this picture...

i see the same cup and the same contents...

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[url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/5267-20080122-jerusalem-tomb-of-jesus.jpg
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[url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/5267-20080122-jerusalem-tomb-of-jesus.jpg
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you'll have to cut and paste the link...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... -jesus.jpg


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Yes, once one begins to realise what all these coded things are refering to it is easy to see how one thing morphs into another yet with the meaning remaining roughly constant.

I did wonder whether it was the illustration of the Eucharist cup with the rays coming from it on the cupboard door on Sauniere's altar in his private church that first gave Roger's friend the idea that the Sainte Ampoule had been at RLC. (Roger used the term 'Sauniere's church', rather than simply 'the church at RLC'.)

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R.M.......YES...That was where the Hosts were prepared probably.....

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This is a Vatican coin

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These images all show the same thing.


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Note the seven what-ever-they-ares hanging from the what-ever-it-is in the lower two photos above.

Thinking about it, if Roger and his friends mistook a piece of decoration that was saying "I know the secret" to mean ''La Sainte Ampoulle was here', have they made the same mistake elsewhere? In other words, do they know anything about La Sainte Ampoule at all? Have they completely led themselves up the garden path, which is, I suspect, the case.

Beautiful detailing on that coin btw.

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Note the seven what-ever-they-ares hanging from the what-ever-it-is in the lower two photos above.

Thinking about it, if Roger and his friends mistook a piece of decoration that was saying "I know the secret" to mean ''La Sainte Ampoulle was here', have they made the same mistake elsewhere? In other words, do they know anything about La Sainte Ampoule at all? Have they completely led themselves up the garden path, which is, I suspect, the case.

Beautiful detailing on that coin btw.


The "whatever-it-is" that the slain Lamb of God is lying on is the Book of Revelations; the seven "whatever-they-ares" are the Seven Seals.

Just out of curiosity, are there any actual Catholics on this forum? The frequently misunderstood and misinterpreted fascination with standard sacramental imagery displayed here leads me to think not.

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The Lamb of God...is the Host


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You don't need to be a Catholic to understand the importance of this.

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Roger wrote:
Quite right, TCP. Remember when I'd mentioned that "neither heathen nor commoner" were likely to solve these riddles? Seems to me that taking either an anthropological or even worse an esoteric approach to Church doctrine, in this matter, is pretty much a guarantee of going astray.


Yes, I do remember, and you're absolutely right. No wonder this "enigma" has gone round in circles for years.

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Sheila wrote:
The Lamb of God...is the Host


Yes, the Sacrifice. Now what would be unusual about finding this imagery in any Catholic church? How would this point to something enigmatic or unusual?

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Guys, ......stop trying to be so superior....what goes around, comes around.


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Without recourse to my books...

Host.......Victim....Sacrifice....Lamb of God...The Eucharist.


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Sheila wrote:
You don't need to be a Catholic to understand the importance of this.


Saint Anthony holding the Christ Child, the Word of God, and a lily. Standard Catholic imagery. Priests bless lilies on Saint Anthony's feast day, they symbolize his purity. Or were you thinking perhaps this had some sort of "Merovingian" overtones?

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Sheila wrote:
Guys, ......stop trying to be so superior....what goes around, comes around.


And around and around in one big continuous circle, from what I can see. It isn't about trying to be superior, it's about wondering why on earth the most basic, prolific imagery is seen by some as being unusual or "telling" in some conspiratorial sort of way.

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Rubbish...that image shows the radiance of the Host on the open book.


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