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Hi all,

I will publish soon an irrefutable evidence about a hoax made by Douzet about the alleged Tomb 2.

In 1999, Douzet had published a black & white document called "Rennes Le Château N°1". Inside you could find a picture of the Tomb 2.

I have found this cavity yesterday. It took me 10 minutes to localize it.
I will show you pictures of it and everyone will be able to compare it with the picture in this old publication.

After the circular stone, i will introduce you the ordinary cavity

Pascal
www.opoul.com

Pascal,

I have to intervene here, because it's clear you are now just inventing accusations. It's quite surreal: you invent an accusation, and then you can prove it's all a lie. It's what tabloids do all the time!

I would VERY much like you to scan the image, and the legend next to it. Unless you've got quite a unique edition of this dossier, my copy reads: "Entree d'une cavite sur site indique par la maquette".

All that says, and pretends to be, is that it's "a cave on the terrain indicated by the model." It doesn't pretend AT ALL to be Tomb 2. The only person who claims it is, is YOU!

Again, if your book shows a different legend, then that is quite something! I wasn't around in 1999 when that book got made, but I would assume that there are no diverging editions of that edition. Definitely my version has the same ISBN number than what you are quoting.

Now Andy has told us ALL to be nice, so I'll stop here. All I will say, is that I only have time to reply to things when they TRULY become outrageous, and unless you truly have a unique edition of this 1999 dossier in your hand that is unlike all others, this is another "bogus revelation" of yours.

Please reply to this message and write blablabla... I won't reply, unless - as mentioned - it's truly outrageous.

Filip

I hope this works, and shows what is in my and in my opinion all copies. It's on page 8 - though it being photocopied at the time, the top of the 8 has dropped off.

As mentioned, there is NO CLAIM whatsoever that this is a special cave. Merely, that this is a cave entrance on the part of the landscape that is represented on the model. There are dozens of other cave entrances on that area... and that's precisely why something was hidden there by someone in the past, for it's what makes it difficult to find.

Speaking of unique copies: I don't know what copy of the DVD you've got, but even though Andre did do some filming inside La Caune, as the producers wanted to have him crawl, again, I can't find - or can remember - that Andre says that the tomb of Arimathea is via the Caune.

Now you seem to think that I have to show this and that, but in the real world, it's normally the ACCUSER - i.e. you - who has to show the evidence that supports the allegation. So less "spiel", more evidence.

The words 'pot' and 'kettle' come to mind....

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I have to be nice, Andy has told me, so... But you do seem to spend an awful lot of time here on this forum, suggesting to me your son is on the better hand?
If so, I hope he'll soon be able to enjoy some good old sea air, like Brighton or something not too far, though I guess the nightlife with all of those clubs might not make that ideal. Perhaps wherever Gordon Brown went to stay is better.
Anyway, from a visit to sound off about certain things said, you seem to have become quite a social commentator, and seem to know so many things about so much in the RLC field, over the past month or so, you seem to have read up on everyone and everything, for I've hardly - if ever - posted here since you came here, I believe, yet you seem to know me well enough to compare me with kitchen material! Remarkable...

A real charmer, for sure. Such a gentleman, his mother would surely be proud.

Does it? I would have thought it would suggest the opposite. I am still a full time carer and spend all of my time either in hospital or at home.



Thanks for the offer but we'll have to pass for now.



Thank you, compliment accepted!

Strange, I don't seem to see any sheer cliffs on the model of the Holy Sepulchre. Not surprising, considering there are none there. All there is on the model that even slightly resembles that is the area at the bottom, and with the little building as a guide for scale, those couldn't be more than about 10-20 feet high maximum. The Perillos cliff looks about 100 feet high. Now I suppose you could say that the cliff is just outside the area depicted on the model, but Pascal was obviously right there at that cliff and he didn't mention seeing anything nearby that looked like the model. More likely just a bunch of nondescript scrub land.

Hi,

Conversation on SP forum were hot last night... It seems easier for them to fight people than facts.

Thank you very much to Filip to give us the opportunity to see this black and white picture from the 1st publication about RLC by Douzet. It is great because i had a problem with the copyright so he did it for me. Thank you again.

So, we have a full page with 3 pictures and little texts. The text doesn't use the words "Tomb 2" i agree. But the context of the set up is quite clear :

- Sauniere's model
- Ancient money found around
- A cliff with an hexagonal cave "open"

I always was told by Douzet that the Open one was the 2 and the closed one the 1. So this set up suggests what i suggest... A cavity open between ancient money and model. So ? what do you think people will think ?

Otherwise : i have seen, in the past, a picture of the Courtade's register OPEN with, on the left page, put on it, a picture of the circular stone, and on the right page, put on it, a picture of this cavity (closer). So this set up was made to suggest what ?

Now i would like to see the picture presented at the Symposium Frontier of amsterdam (as you said) to compare it to the following pictures :

http://www.chronodrome.fr/salvaterre/trouvaille-opoul/cavite-banale1.jpg

http://www.chronodrome.fr/salvaterre/trouvaille-opoul/cavite-banale2.jpg

Just in case it would match.

Pascal

I confirm that Douzet says clearly in good french (not suggests, he says formely) that The CAUNE is the entrance to go to Arismatie Tomb. Through a tunnel ? A subway ? by bus maybe? If you don't know that, i'm afraid you are a new victim of your mentor.

He says that, handling a cup "found" inside the Caune...

I don't have to proove it with pictures because you suggest me to use something copyrighted and i won't fall in this trap.

Well, maybe i could take a movie of the tv screen... but it would take my time and i have to go to the beach soon... and i have other mails to answer just before.

Have a nice day
Pascal

The sign of a typical bully. Making fun of an innocent child who has been severely disabled by bone cancer. Shame on you PhC!

Judging from past equally vile comments, I'm sure there are others who would agree with your interpretation of PhC's post. As there are those who would have read it as it was intended. If he simply wanted to make fun of me, why mention my child?

I have no problem with anyone questioning my husband's claims but why be so rude about it. I don't understand why such obviously intelligent people should have to resort to such insults and vile comments. And I would never hide behind my child so I do implore you all to stop using him when you disagree with, or dislike, something I say. By all means take the piss out of me as being on a Rennes-le-Chateau forum when I know nothing about the subject I realise I am inviting it.

But none of them know anything about the subject either. They all believe any old nonsense that someone invents.

That you say that it's "any OLD nonsense" , could this allude to the antiquity of said nonsense ?

Given that there are 16th century land use records still existing which mention the many gemstone and silver mines around Périllos, I'd say the chances are very good that this is one of them. As to artifacts "found" by Douzet on his digs, I am reminded of a Sekhmet statue purportedly found by him in what he called an underground "Temple of Isis" near Rennes-le-Bains which he gave to a friend as security on a loan. As expected, it turned out to be a modern souvenir.

TCP

As i said earlier, here is the link.
The subject was well started here.

English version:

http://www.chronodrome.fr/salvaterre/trouvaille-opoul/C1C2/index2.html

Still waiting for the picture shown in the Frontier Symposium in Amsterdam.

Pascal

Good job, Pascal! A very nice summation of critical flaws in Douzet's decription of the terrain. I noticed masonry (looks like coated sandstone from the pictures) at the base of Cave 2 similar to what was used to seal Cave 1. Looks fairly recent.

TCP

Shocking. These locations are identical. At least, in case of the hexagonal entrance, the suggestion is given that it concerns a location indicated by the model.

Thanks for sharing this.

Very good job Pascal. Were it not for you a lot of people might still be believing the Douzet hoax. You really got in there and did the on-site work to reveal the truth of the matter. The biggest question is how Douzet ever thought he would get away with making those claims when he must have known they would eventually be proved false. His biggest slip up was using locations that were really in the Perillos area. Had he gone somewhere that nobody could ever find, like up in the Pyrenees somewhere, to take his pictures he probably would have gotten away with it for a longer time. Eventually somebody would have insisted that he actually show them the place, but he probably could have stalled for another few years. Now he's a confirmed hoaxer. Nobody will ever believe anything he says again. Didn't think it through very well, did he?

I must say that the two locations really do look tomb-like though, especially the round one. I can see why he would have jumped at the chance to exploit it as a real tomb. Now I'd like to know where those metallic artifacts he showed came from. Probably various areas. My guess is that he found them with a metal detector since they're all metal, as opposed to ivory or some other non-metallic type "treasures".

I kind of feel sorry for the guy. He does do some good articles on other facets of the mystery. I don't think he's evil or anything, just a little too eager for a big discovery. It gave us something to talk about and investigate for a while anyway. It's a good challenge to try to find the flaws in these kind of hoaxes.

Hmmmm....I'm not so sure... respect to André Douzet for all the work he has done........so don't be too premature guys......the jury is still out.

Guess where I've been this summer?

Believe it or not, i have respect for his work but not any more for the man whom manipulated facts to fit to his theories.

If you substract from his theories :

- the circular stone
- the vaguely hexagonal cavity
- the Courtade's Register (which he was not able to produce any full page in good french)
- The Grotte de la Caune (which is not the entrance to Arimathie Tomb)
- Boudet link with Opoul / Périllos
- Saunière's link with Opoul / Périllos
- the knowledges of the 2 alleged Tombs (no draw, no pictures, no description - except the circular stone and the cavity)
- the genealogy of Perillos family
- the King of Sanch (instead of King Sanch of Mallorque whom has no link at all with the confrery)
- the Magical square of Salvaterre (no picture, no evidence of its existence)
- The Saunière's Model which fit perfectly the Jerusalem's Model
- And i forget for sure many other suspect details...

If you substract all of that from its theory, what's left ?

The only way i would change my mind about his theories would be at least an answer of each 11 notes explained at the end of my page (linkhere).

Pascal

Well, I was very suprised when I saw the movie on Opoul.com. Had to check it for myself, just to be sure.
Keep up the good work, guys (and gals). Meanwhile we'll just wait untill somebody answers your questions, Pascal.