Arcadia Discussion Zone

When I read Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, I read about the mystery sculpture, a Reverse bas relief of a Poussin painting, at Shugborough House in England http://www.shugborough.org.uk/holy-grail-78 it says that the code can not be broken, its inscription DOUOSVAVVM could not be deciphered.

I tried to solve this puzzle and thought. What if the inscription was a Templar clue, a pointer to something else on the path to the grail? Why was the bas relief done as reverse of the painting? Why was a casket added, what did it hide? There seemed to be a clue in another place, one with Templar connections and showing the "pyramid". It was a headstone with the date incorrectly carved.
Why does everyone try to decipher the inscription out of context? It is an inscription on a very detailed, and modified, mirror image of a famous painting. If the monument is not significant, why carve it? Carving the inscription alone would save a lot of grief.

My solution tried to keep the inscription and monument in the same context and it had to be validated by external information (i.e. Sauniere parchment) It took me four hours to solve the puzzle using that approach. Here is my solution to the indecipherable inscription:

The Shepherd’s Monument Mystery – Solved.
I will not go into all of the references, they can easily be found on the Internet. I would suggest looking at the pictures of the objects mentioned.

Background Information (not in order)
Village of Rennes-le-Chateau is perched on a rocky outcrop.
Antoine Bigou miscarved the date MDCCLXXXI (1781) as MDCOLXXXI. He changed C to O (not a Roman Numeral). His uncle preceded Sauniere as abbee at Rennes-de-Chateau. http://www.rennes-discovery.com/dalleblanchefort.htm
Poussin painted Les Bergers d’Acadie (1635-50) – the title is French, Poussin was associated with the Templars. http://www.parnasse.com/etinarc.jpg
Sauniere discovered a parchment (1891) that read, in part, “Shepherdess…Poussin…key…”
The complete quote (With my solution to the meaning)
Shepherdess (Refers to Poussin Painting with Shepherdess)
no temptation that (Refers to Teniers Painting of Witches calling spirits, not being tempted by them)
Poussin [and] Teniers keep the key. (You need both paintings to solve riddle)
Peace 681. (Signature Psalm 68 Verse 1 Psalm of David) – End of clues to riddle http://bible.cc/psalms/68-1.htm

By the cross and this horse of God.(Reference to Cardinal Richelieu shown in Teniers painting)
I finish off this guardian daemon at midday. (Priory of Sion Plot to murder Cardinal Richelieu?)
Blue apples (Priory of Sion Headquarters? Reference to painting of Eve reaching for a Blue Apple at St. Sulpice Church)

The location shown in the Poussin painting is Les Pointils, near Rennes-le-Chateau.
A reverse bas relief carving of Les Bergers d’Acadie, by Stuart is located at Shugborough house near Staffordshire England (1755) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Shugborough_arcadia.jpg
There are eight letters on one line of the bas relief, two letters on next line
Sauniere decoded the messages and found the Grail even though he was not a Templar initiate – he did not possess the esoteric knowledge thought to be needed.

Solution (Order of learning the clues is unimportant):
Poussin painted Les Bergers d’Acadie, it depicts a shepherdess. CLUE
The scene could be anywhere in the world and there would be thousands of tombs to search for. Poussin literally points the way in the painting: One man is pointing UP, the angle of his finger is about 43 degrees. The other man is pointing slightly down, about minus two degrees. (In geometry up on the Y axis is plus, down is minus. In cartography Plus is N and W, Minus is S and E).
They are pointing to: 43N 002E (Rennes-le-Chateau is at: 42.56N; 002.16E). This gives the location to search, Teniers shows what to look for.

Sauniere parchment refers to Poussin shepherdess painting. KEY # 1
Location can be determined now, if you have KEY #1, and access to Poussin’s painting.

Bas relief in England is a “REVERSE” of Poussin’s painting. CLUE
There are 10 letters on inscription, eight on one line. CLUE
Bas relief adds a casket obscuring view of Rennes le Chateau. CLUE
Bigou replaced C with O KEY # 2
To solve:
Read the word REVERSED (i.e. upside down and mirrored) Then, REVERSE what Bigou did on the headstone: Replace the O with a C in the eight-letter word.
The modified line now looks like this:

AAVASCNC
This is an anagram, in French is two words: "Ca and Canvas” (That and Picture – it will not translate as a phrase from French to English, perhaps it should say Picture! That! Admonishing the reader) I was chastised by someone who would accept nothing less than the proper masculine form "Le Canvas". They should write to a 17th Century Templar and complain. The bas-relief in England is obscuring the location of the Holy Grail in France. You need to see the original painting to find the right location after you find KEY #2. D and M seem to be meaningless, outside the clue (Help?).
This clue is pointing the way, a path to the location of the grail. It is an anagram – reversed, mirrored, and one letter (c) changed. This riddle is done in classic Templar style.
Obviously
1. The location can be found without the bas relief, if you have KEY 1
2. The location can be found without the parchment, if you have KEY 2.
I believe the Sauniere misinterpreted the Teniers clue and looked at “The Temptation of St. Anthony” painting. The clue clearly states no temptation that. Another Teniers painting may show the object that is sought in the search. “Witches preparing for the Sabbat" http://altreligion.about.com/library/graphics/sabbat23.jpg
(St. Anthony was tempted by demons, the witches were calling them – no temptation that!)” “Poussin [and] Teniers keep the key”).

This painting shows a horse’s head skeleton (no lower jaw) with an “all seeing or God’s eye” and skull and crossbones. The skull and crossbones have a vase of flowers placed on the head. The man of the cross, on God’s horse appears to be Cardinal Richelieu. The skull and crossbones, with the flowers on top seem to signify a Templar grave. This is. KEY 3
With KEY 1 or KEY 2, you know where to look, and with KEY 3 you know what to look for – a Knight’s grave near Rennes-le-Chateau. Sauniere solved the puzzle. The museum at his church has the skull and crossbones.

hello radars , thank you for a fantastic and erudite input.Iwill take my time to digest it all
p.s can you add an avatar under your name , will brighten the forum up
thanks
blue

Hi there,

Interesting exercise. However, I see a few problems. First of all, which zero meridian did Poussin use? This painting was made before the Greenwich meridian was established. The Paris meridian would demand an app. zero reading of the finger.

Cheers,

Shepherdess No temptation Poussin Teniers Guard the key means.

Les Bergers d'Arcadie and the only Teniers painting featuring St Anthony the Hermit where he is NOT being tempted by the devil. There are in fact two candidates from each of these painters. Two Les Bergere d'Arcadie and two St Anthony and St Paul being fed by Ravens. One of latter of these used to be owned by Herman Goering.

Lady Anson (Elizabeth Yorke) wife of George Anson borrowed the Poussin painting of Les Bergers d'Arcadie (not the Louvre version) from nearby Chatsworth House, the painting still hangs there. According to letters she wrote she spent up to 8 hours a day copying the painting. She even has a painting of her holding her rolled up copy of Les Bergers d'Arcadie (Chatsworth version). She was clearly obsessed with it. In the garden at Shugborough there is the phrase HIC VER PERPETUM which is from Ovid's Golden Age. Poussin carried a copy of this too.

It is interesting therefore that the frieze at Shugborough appears to be a combination of both of Poussin's versions. The fact that the frieze is in reverse will probably mean that it has been traced onto the mould.

Thomas Anson (her brother in law) was a Fellow of the Royal Society (I've yet to find out why) and a member of the Dilletanti Society along with Sir Francis Dashwood a member of the Illuminati.

I have a theory about D OUOSVAVV M which has to do with Thomas Anson's tutor and FRS sponsor.

Lady Anson is buried at St Michael and All Angels church.

The Royal Society most certainly grew out of the Rosy Cross fraternity. My theory is that the inscription is Rosicrucian, giving pointers to finding the grave of Father R.C. Both in Poussin and in Shugborough Hall's relief the shepherd points to the letters RC.

The dotted letters below help you on your way. And they are not an acronym.

Yes well don't forget that it was Thomas Wright who designed the arch for the monument.

He was first and foremost an astronomer. He also was the designer for nearby Hodnet Church a church dedicated to Mary Magdalene.

Here is the picture of the stained glass windows in Hodnet Church. Every single one of these is repeated in Sauniere's church.

Wright was a member of Académie des Inscriptions et Belles-Lettres that had been founded by Jean-Baptiste Colbert, finance minister to Louis XIV (The Sun King). Colbert had spent a long time in the MIDI overseeing the building of the canal that runs through Carcassonne. There are those who say that it was Colbert who destroyed the original tomb at Les Pontils that Poussin (a contemporary of Colbert) painted.

In the words of the Académie des Inscriptions et Belles-Lettres' charter, it is:

primarily concerned with the study of the monuments, the documents, the languages, and the cultures of the civilizations of antiquity, the Middle Ages, and the classical period, as well as those of non-European civilizations.

It was originally called:

Royal academy of the Inscriptions and Medals.

Now we are talking.

Yes and I got that piece of information firstly from

Paul Smith

Ah! Must be true then.

I don't know Paul Smith, but I do know that an astronomic possibility is linking my solution of the inscription with the images themselves (Guercino and Poussin's).

Thomas Wright made sundials.

He also wrote "An original theory or new hypothesis of the universe (1750)", in which he explains the appearance of the Milky Way as "an optical effect due to our immersion in what locally approximates to a flat layer of stars."

In other words he was the first person to associate the Milky Way with looking edge on to our galaxy.



Observatory at Westerton built by Thomas Wright. This is the same man who designed the interior of a church dedicated to Mary Magdalene complete with a female looking John the Beloved carrying a chalice and according to Graham Phillips, Wright is direcly connected with a encrypted document and the Holy Grail.

As you know we've been discussing the possibility of an astronomical connection on here for some time.

Yes we've already been discussing this possibility on here.

D O.U.O.S.V.A.V.V. M

Is a mathematical formula

I love cryptic games and you may be correct (I'm sure you have proof of your theory) but, if I might be so bold as to stick my nose in yet another discussion - may I suggest an alternative explanation:

The sequence O.U.O.S is too close to P.O.U.S.S for me to ignore it. So, if we assume that the P is implied (since the inclusion would have been too obvious a correlation), the top line of the inscription would read:
(P)OUOSVAVV and, if we further assume that specific letters in POUSSIN have been changed, we get (P)OU_S__ VV. This agrees with a previous post re the hidden SIN in POUSSIN and the key being 36.

The inserted letters read OVA (EGG), which probably (I haven't had time to process this) relates to the egg in the Station of the Cross and the Mother Goose thread, both of which are explainable (and linked by a common denominator, as far as I comprehend that aspect). If you want further info, "ask and you shall receive".

So, we now have (P)OU_S__ VV. Chaldean numerology (I had thought they might've used Pythagorean but it doesn't appear so) would convert VV to 12 but I think the architect has melded Roman numerals in, as 10 (V x 2)gives a much more meaningful result.

Assuming OU_S yields 7+6_3__ and VV = 10, this gives 13 + 3 = 16/10 (since the end of Poussin would be an obvious "balance" point ) or 1.6 (a rough approximation of phi; the PS symbol on the gravestone is also a rough approximation, hence 1.6 wrapped around PS (83) gives 1836).

I digress - my apologies. Furthermore, the number of letters, including the implied P, give a 7 2 split (72 is sometimes termed "the number of God") and the D and M below (both equal 4 in both Chaldean and Pythagorean numerology systems) give us a double split.

72/4 = 18 (sin 18 degrees approximates to half of phi) and 18 and 18 make 36; and it also implies,on a more esoteric level, the duality of God.

If I get any further insights, I'll post them but I only came across this last hour,so I've had no time to allow intuition to throw up anything. Reason has its place but I'm more inclined to trust my left brain.

Love and laughter
Uensis

Correction: sin 18 = half the reciprocal of phi; sin 54 = half of phi.

Is it really such a mystery?

O . U . O . S . V . A . V . V
D M
The two lower letters are the clue and are French in origin (Dagobert Merovingian), as are the upper line letters, which read: -
" Observateur Utiliser Objecter Shugborough Voir Aussi Visa Versa ".
Or, Observer Use the Object at Shugborough to See or Understand Also Vice Versa".
The Shepherds Monument is best viewed as the reverse of a transparency – the Chinese House is another example of ‘Vice Versa’.
On the Monument, the shepherd's thumb on his left hand is immediately after the 'R' in Arcadia – alphabetically followed by the ‘S’, his index finger is planted on the 'N' in the second word 'IN'. The word 'Ego' is dropped from the end of 'Et In Arcadia Ego' to leave ‘Et IN ARCADIA’. The thumb ‘picks up’ the ‘S’ and the finger overwrites the ‘N’, thus reading ‘ET IS ARCADIA’ – or, ‘Also in Arcadia’.

Geoffrey

Radars
Psalms 68.1
Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him
that is the King James version
is there a specific Bible you like for that interpretation

Great research

OUOS VAVV

One thing to consider is that there is only one word in french (and english?) that has the VAVV letter pattern. That word is EPEE, as in 'mort epee'.

Now that is interesting.

Yes it is interesting Icremote, well spotted. I've been trying to think of others but nothing yet ( in English anyway ). However hasn't the OUOSVAVV been pretty much solved by the "vanity" poem? Perhaps you should go for a job at Bletchley Park?
Regards
Nic

They used the Enigma machine to decipher the Shepherd's monument letters a few years back. Can't remember the result. I think it was more a publicity stunt than anything else.

Yeah its done, completely done at this date 14/12/2009

http://top10crackedcodesandmysteries.blogspot.com/

Not bad radar.

I refer to my post of 10 Aug 2009.

When the original Knights came back from the Holy Land they brought with them a deal of treasure that was concealed at locations known only to those Knights and subsequent Grand Masters, Knight Templar. In the 1750’s when Rosslyn was under threat Thomas Anson took on the task of recording the whereabouts of those sites … all the monuments at Shugborough represent Templar treasure sites.
I stated that the Chinese House was another example of ‘Visa Versa’ … has no one ever wondered why that monument is on the West side?

Geoffrey

Thats very clever. Good work.