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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2009 7:36 pm 
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Thanks Richard for the information.It just makes me mad when i read and see such stories.It is a shame how these old cemeteries are going to rack and ruin and then to add insult to injury you have this stuff going on.

My late parents are buried in the national cemetery in San Antonio,Tx, on Fort Sam Houston, so they are safe from this.Haven't heard of anything like this happening in any national cemeteries, like Arlington where the late president John F. Kennedy is buried.
OF course, if the perpators did such a thing in a national cemetery and were caught, it would be a federal office and they could go to the federal pen.


As far as this activity goes, could be dabblers in the occult. But there is a lot more of this stuff going on than the average person is aware of.


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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
PostPosted: 30 Dec 2009 10:53 am 
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Well, quite. I finally throw off the mysterious RSI that's been plaguing me (not nice, I assure you) and look forward to having a nose, and perhaps even, a cheeky post on the Arcadia forum followed by much tittering. And if we're lucky, a bit of intelligent discussion, followed by more tittering and a cup of tea. And what do I get when I log in?

A greeting from a new member in a big red lettered scrawl:

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A "hello" would be good. An introduction even better. But by God, it hurts my poor sensitive eyes. I'm just getting too old for this sort of malarky. There goes the blood pressure!

“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
PostPosted: 30 Dec 2009 4:01 pm 
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Stuck in the 80's cultural wise and spiritually? :lol:
This thread is getting reminiscent of the warped teenagers that defiled cemeteries local to me back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCRrP36KTGw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulz7eTvsM4o

http://tinyurl.com/yjvo39j :mrgreen:

http://tinyurl.com/ycwhafj :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
PostPosted: 30 Dec 2009 9:12 pm 
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Dear Mr or Mrs Red Eyes, I do not appreciate veiled threats made towards me or any other member of Arcadia. If you have something constructive to add here then please join our discussions, if not, well you know where the door is. Also the only red eyes that scare me are the ones that I see in my bathroom mirror after a night out on the tiles.
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 Post subject: Skinwalker Ranch
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There are similar goings-on at Skinwalker Ranch near Uintah, Utah
which is home to a menagerie of paranormal animals. The near-by Navajo
tribe has many legends of dark entities and its proximity to this area explains
the origins of these tales. There have also been discoveries of sacrifices made
in that area, probably to obtain power from the otherworldly animals who reside
there. The remains that Andrew saw are probably of the same nature.
Many vampire legends begin with animal mutilation cases where the livestock has
been drained of blood, nothing assembles a mob with torches and pitchforks faster!
This is a UFO phenomenon, ie. cattle mutilation. Granted, it is difficult to mantian a
positive attitude towards the Star People in the face of such evidence, but there it
is. As for Highgate, I`d say that it is a typical paranormal entity.
Does anyone remember in the Led Zepplin movie "The Song Remains the Same" when
Jimmy Page was sitting by a creek
...he turned to face the camera and his eyes were glowing red lights!!

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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
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For all those with Red Eyes. Be Kool. Help is on it's way. Might help with after New years Eve party symptoms.




Redness Relief: Visine Original - For fast relief of redness of the eye sue to minor irritation of eyes caused by conditions such as smoke, dust, other airbourne pollutants and swimming.

Fast acting formula gets the red out.

http://www.visine.com/product-visine-original.jsp


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Dear Mr or Mrs Red Eyes, I do not appreciate veiled threats made towards me or any other member of Arcadia. If you have something constructive to add here then please join our discussions, if not, well you know where the door is. Also the only red eyes that scare me are the ones that I see in my bathroom mirror after a night out on the tiles.

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I hope the Visine helps Nic. Probably better than Vodka/Rum based Capsicum spray. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
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If the Visine doesn't work than here got something else for you. Might relieve your symptoms, might be the cause of them:lol:

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 Post subject: Cloaks
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Cloaks - always in style. The figure could be from any era.

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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
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Renne, were spooks in trendy cloaks part of the strange things goin' on in Abney Park? Are ya plannin' a return to the daze of havin' a happenin' and all that jazz? Do those cloaks cover up diabolical wings, perchance?

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 Post subject: The Entity
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I wonder whether the cloaked entity was there BEFORE

the ground was used for a graveyard.

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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
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I found it interesting that the new Guy Ritchie film - Sherlock Holmes - not only features Brompton Cemetery, which like Highgate is one of London's 'Magnificent Seven' cemeteries, but it also features Satanism and mutilated pigs. Seems all those years with Madonna has come to this. Ha!

Great film by the way. Really enjoyed it.

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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
PostPosted: 13 Jan 2010 1:02 am 
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Yes indeed – and one of the few times I've heard my favorite word, 'discombobulate', used in a film.

Little known fact: Guy Ritchie is also a distant descendant of Edward I... according to the 1911 census.

It also reveals that Jude Law, is descended from a master baker, William Law...

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 Post subject: Photos
PostPosted: 13 Jan 2010 1:19 am 
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Those are beautiful Highgate photos of the ivy-covered tombstones,
it`s so Victorian. Will you take pictures at all 7 cemeteries - out in this weather?!!
Please post them for us to see. Is Highgate the only graveyard with a phantom?

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 Post subject: Vampire Blog
PostPosted: 14 Jan 2010 2:22 am 
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Here`s a first-hand account:

I parked my car at The Flask public house at around 8 o'clock and set off along Swains Lane with my dog. It was a beautiful, warm summer's evening, but as we proceeded along the cemetery's outer wall, I became uncomfortably aware of a curious silence. All the birds had suddenly stopped singing. The silence ... the only way I could describe it is that it was rather like being enveloped in a large woolly blanket. This should have given me some apprehension, but my mind was on the girl at the party and I just disregarded it. I was ten yards from the North Gate when I happened to look across at it. What I saw was what appeared to be black treacle flowing down and running over the wall. It touched ground and actually flowed like a big black pool of liquid into the centre of the path about six feet before me. There was an icy coldness which grew more intense with the passing seconds, literally an Arctic cold. The hairs on my neck, for the first time in my life, actually stood on end. With dusk falling full on the perimeter wall, the path was in shadow, but there was a shadow discernible within that shadow. I thought 'What am I watching ? What the f**k is this ?'. The most horrible part was - and I still have nightmares about it, still wake up in a cold sweat - it reared up. I'd estimate its height at between seven or eight feet. I'm five feet eight inches tall and it towered over me. It was enormous! It was neither solid nor transparent. My overall impression was that it was a black figure wearing dark garments which flowed and stirred in the wind - but there was no wind. The edges of what it was wearing were moving. No face. Where eyes would have been if it were human, there were just two red pits, red glows, and I was very conscious that it was looking at me. At that point I realised that I was up against an entity that was both powerful and malignant. It was radiating evil, that's the only way I could describe it. This wasn't a ghost, this was an entity. There was nothing remotely human about it. It simply was not human. As an ex-Army Officer I'd come up against life threatening situations, but faced with that thing the fear was worse than anything you could imagine. I tried to do a banishing pentagram, tried to pronounce a Latin incantation to repel evil. I could do neither. I couldn't move. My limbs were like lead. My dog was a placid old thing. It never growled as a rule, but it did on that occasion and it was ... indescribable. The growl of a wolf. But it had no effect on the entity whatsoever. The next thing I can recall, I found myself up against the wall at the top of Swains Lane. The dog had beaten me there. Its fur was actually standing on end. I've no recollection of running, but I must've done. I made my way to The Flask.
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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
PostPosted: 16 Feb 2010 8:16 pm 
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Just something i've been pondering on. I know i'm going to get flak for this, but playing devil's advocate,just suppose Bishop Manchester was telling the truth about his original vampire encounter, in the first parts of the H.V. Would it not make you abandon all dabbling in the occult and return to what you know best as maybe a child i,e, the christian church. Further if you were really badly frightened might you then take up an extreme christian attitude in an effort to protect yourself. Not saying i believe it myself but i thought it worth mentioning.


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 Post subject: The Bishop
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Can you post the Bishop`s encounter for us here on the Forum please?

Not all of us have read his book.

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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
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Book on loan to a friend at the moment. I'll try to speed up it's return and attend to this.But If there's anyone out there who is in a position to expedite this more quickly, feel free.


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 Post subject: The Bishop
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To view the Bishop talking about encounters with the Highgate Vampire, click on the link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O6Vh7o9l_c

Further coverage about his investigation of the case can be read at this link:

http://highgatevampire.blogspot.com

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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
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Thanks for that 25 year-old historical account of the 'demise' of the Highgate Vampire, Renee.

But if interested readers also care to refer to page 182 of this self-published book, they will also learn how its author claimed to have destroyed one of the Highgate 'vampire's' disciples who he 'staked' through the heart (middle?) in a lonely graveyard in 1982 after she had changed into a 'giant spider'.

This is printed in a book that supposedly denotes 'fact'; although this 'spider incident' is clearly a plagiarism of events featured in earlier Hammer Horror movies.

Still, I suppose we all appreciate a good 'vampire story!

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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2010 6:06 am 
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Wow David,

I thought you were over talking about the Highgate Vampire! And here you are, once again commentating on the work of your archnemesis. Go figure!

Out of curiousity Dave, why should people believe your own account of "psychic entities with vampirelike characteristics" over Manchester's vampire?

Renne,

If you want an account of the Highgate affair, written by independent sources, then check out the following links:

"Highgate Vampire", Wikipedia.

J. Gordon Melton's "The Highgate Vampire" article.


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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
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Since i only recently got my laptop ,which is why i didnt know the bishop had left the website, I was very interested in reading about the weird goings in this cemetery.It would seem that these peculiar black majic type goings on are usually in some way linked to these reports of strange figures dressed in black i e the highgate phantom/vampire.I mentioned earlier that i saw a strange wierd figure that frightened me, in a cemetery near where i live.That too was after some strange occurences and goings on had taken place.Once my mother and i had the peculiar experience of finding a large black coat wrapped around a gravestone. There were,too reports of black majic and odd things happenning in the place,before i had seen the figure.I would very much like to go back to my origional idea.Could these strange figures not be simply,spirits,that protect the graveyard?I admit they are frightening one would e ven go as far as terrifying,yet this doesnt necessarily,to me indicate that they are evilP perhaps they are simply there to frighten people,and are just a force niether good nor evil? Maybe they have been stirred up by the black majic practitioners[ or whatever] and it falls on them to protect the graveyard. Its just a thought.


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 Post subject: Re: Strange goings on in Abney Park Cemetery - near Highgate
PostPosted: 30 Mar 2010 8:34 am 
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Since i only recently got my laptop ,which is why i didnt know the bishop had left the website, I was very interested in reading about the weird goings in this cemetery.It would seem that these peculiar black majic type goings on are usually in some way linked to these reports of strange figures dressed in black i e the highgate phantom/vampire.I mentioned earlier that i saw a strange wierd figure that frightened me, in a cemetery near where i live.That too was after some strange occurences and goings on had taken place.Once my mother and i had the peculiar experience of finding a large black coat wrapped around a gravestone. There were,too reports of black majic and odd things happenning in the place,before i had seen the figure.I would very much like to go back to my origional idea.Could these strange figures not be simply,spirits,that protect the graveyard?I admit they are frightening one would e ven go as far as terrifying,yet this doesnt necessarily,to me indicate that they are evilP perhaps they are simply there to frighten people,and are just a force niether good nor evil? Maybe they have been stirred up by the black majic practitioners[ or whatever] and it falls on them to protect the graveyard. Its just a thought.


There are too many inconsistencies in your posts, Clarmonde, not to pass some comment. I hope you don't mind.

I'll set aside the fact that you talk about the Highgate Vampire case on a thread and topic about Abney Park Cemetery.

I'll forget that you know (because I informed you) how to put questions on Bishop Manchester's blog but never do so; instead, preferring to mention and discuss him on this forum which he quit last year.

You have stated elsewhere on Arcadia that you don't believe in ghosts, but here you are talking about "spirits that protect the graveyard." Who or what are these "spirits"? Where is the evidence for their existence at Highgate Cemetery?

You subscribe to "spirits" (which you feel have been mistaken for the Highgate Vampire) which are "neither good nor evil", but you offer no evidence or reason for postulating such a theory. Indeed, all the evidence points to the presence at Highgate Cemetery forty years ago being malevolent in the extreme.

See:

http://vampireresearchsociety.blogspot.com/2009/02/encounters-with-highgate-vampire.html

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Two seemingly unconnected incidents occurred within weeks of one another in early 1967. The first involved two 16-year-old convent girls who were walking home at night after having visited friends in Highgate Village. Their return journey took them down Swains Lane past the cemetery. They could not believe their eyes as they passed the graveyard’s north gate at the top of the lane, for in front of them bodies appeared to be emerging from their tombs. One of these schoolgirls later suffered nightly visitations and blood loss. The second incident, some weeks later, involved an engaged couple who were walking down the same lane. Suddenly the female shrieked as she glimpsed something hideous hovering behind the gate’s iron railings. Then her fiancé saw it. They both stood frozen to the ground as the spectre held them in thrall. Its face bore an expression of basilisk horror. Soon others sighted the same phenomenon as it hovered along the path behind the gate where gravestones are visible either side until consumed in darkness. Before long people were talking in hushed tones about the rumoured haunting in local pubs. Some who actually witnessed the spectral figure wrote to their local newspaper to share their experience. Discovery was made of animal carcasses drained of blood. They had been so exsanguinated that a forensic sample could not be found. It was only a matter of time before a person was found in the cemetery in a pool of blood. This victim died of wounds to the throat. The police made every attempt to cover-up the vampiristic nature of the death. Seán Manchester informed the public on 27 February 1970 that the cause was most probably a vampire. He appeared on television on 13 March 1970 and repeated his theory. The Vampire Research Society, whose specialist unit within a larger investigatory organisation (the now defunct British Occult Society) had opened the case twelve months earlier, established a history of similar hauntings that went back to before the graveyard existed. A suspected tomb was located and a spoken exorcism performed. This proved to be ineffective. The hauntings and animal deaths continued. Indeed, they multiplied. By now all sorts of people were jumping on the vampire bandwagon; including film-makers and rock musicians. Most were frightened off. Some who interloped became fascinated by the black arts with disastrous consequences. Meanwhile, serious researchers considered the possibility that a nest of vampires might be active in the area. Yet there seemed to be one principal source which the media had already dubbed a “King Vampire of the Undead.”

http://www.gothicpress.freeserve.co.uk/The%20Highgate%20Vampire.htm

I fail to see how you can possibly consider the Highgate Cemetery Vampire phenomenon to have been something benign or "neither good nor evil"? You have now posted this on a number of occasions on this forum and I just wonder where it is coming from? Is it just wishful and muddled thinking? Or do you refuse to accept the notion of supernatural evil?

If the latter, all the evidence is stacked against you.


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