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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 4:50 pm 
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I have not squabbled. I have not been aggresive. I have not made insinuations and snide remarks, and I am no more a newcomer than is Jenny who joined immediately after BaldryCat.

What is your problem?


"I have not squabbled." Nobody said you had. My comment was in reaction to your apparent annoyance that I had praised David.
"I have not been aggresive" Your comments are brusque and confrontational.
"I have not made insinuations and snide remarks" - Nor have I, what's this got to do with anything?
"and I am no more a newcomer than is Jenny who joined immediately after BaldryCat." - Hang on a minute - someone else seemed overly concerned about the timing of my joining Arcadia. Now then, let me see who was that? Oh yes, the BISHOP!!!


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 4:57 pm 
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Jenny wrote:
"I have not squabbled." Nobody said you had. My comment was in reaction to your apparent annoyance that I had praised David.
"I have not been aggresive" Your comments are brusque and confrontational.
"I have not made insinuations and snide remarks" - Nor have I, what's this got to do with anything?
"and I am no more a newcomer than is Jenny who joined immediately after BaldryCat." - Hang on a minute - someone else seemed overly concerned about the timing of my joining Arcadia. Now then, let me see who was that? Oh yes, the BISHOP!!!

I knew it wouldn't be long before a sock puppet crawled out of the woodwork to defend him.



Would you enlighten me as to where my "annoyance" appears?

How are my comments as "brusque and confrontational" as your own in your response now?

I was not referring to you regarding insinsuations and snide remarks. I was referring to DVB.

The reason I made the reference to you being no less a newcomer than me is because your highly biased comments have not attracted any criticism from DVB who made a point of saying I am newcomer.

Could you explain what a "sock puppet" is?

Could you also show where I have defended anyone?

Finally, why do you keep editing your posts to remove nasty allegations?


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 4:59 pm 
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If there was an emoticon for someone biting their lip whilst supressing a smile...I'd be that emoticon.


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 5:02 pm 
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Jerry Dandridge wrote:
If there was an emoticon for someone biting their lip whilst supressing a smile...I'd be that emoticon.


Meaning what? More riddles?

It would seem that nobody is really interested in discussing thread subjects.

Jerry Dandridge is a newcomer like Jenny and a few others.

I am also a newcomer, but I am being treated differently.

Why?


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 5:21 pm 
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I am going to be very careful not to get green-inked here.

Theoretically, let's assume there is a person at a party you are trying to have a discussion with. At some point, that person gets very angry and leaves the room. Five minutes later, they return wearing a wig and insist they are someone different.

My question is, do you expend needless energy arguing with them about their identity? Or do you carry on with the discussion? Certainly there is a way to phrase questions so the person wearing the wig can answer them yet also feel they retain their bewigged anonymity.

This is of course entirely theoretical. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 5:24 pm 
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Would you enlighten me as to where my "annoyance" appears?
Yes - it occurs with the comment "Or is it just a mutual appreciation society with no questions asked?"


How are my comments as "brusque and confrontational" as your own in your response now?

My comments were friendly until you annoyed me. Perhaps we should start over :)

I was not referring to you regarding insinsuations and snide remarks. I was referring to DVB.

OK - fair enough.

The reason I made the reference to you being no less a newcomer than me is because your highly biased comments have not attracted any criticism from DVB who made a point of saying I am newcomer. Hang on a minute chum. Why are my comments "highly biased"? Just because I praised David's interview doesn't mean there wasn't some meritin the Bishop's own interview.

Could you explain what a "sock puppet" is?
Yes - A sock puppet is someone pretending to be a friend/acquaintance of themselves who posts positive, biased comments about themselves in the third person - perhaps if the dignity of someone's office prevented them from posting in person, or of they had already left the discussion but wanted to still have a voice. :roll: This is all hypothetical of course, because I'm not actually accusing anyone of being a sock puppet!

Could you also show where I have defended anyone?
Yes - You defended yourself in your last post :wink:

Finally, why do you keep editing your posts to remove nasty allegations?
I have made no "nasty allegations". I usually edit my posts if a spelling mistake or typo may detract from its meaning. On this one occasion I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding you being a sock puppet and removed the last sentence.

Let's just agree to get on for the sake of the board!


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 5:28 pm 
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Caledfwlch wrote:
I am also a newcomer...

Caledfwlch wrote:
By the way, I am no more a newcomer than...

Any advance on these? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 5:31 pm 
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Come on Caledfwlch. Just drop the word "calumny" in somewhere and be done with it!!!


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 5:38 pm 
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So this is not a forum for the discussion of thread titles?

This is a place where bullies meet to set their own agenda.


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 5:42 pm 
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Jenny wrote:
This is all hypothetical of course, because I'm not actually accusing anyone of being a sock puppet!


So when you posted this


Jenny wrote:
I knew it wouldn't be long before a sock puppet crawled out of the woodwork to defend him.


who were you referring to?


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
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Roger wrote:
You might want to consider NOT handing people the stick, should you not wish to be beaten with it. A simple solution to a superficial problem, no?


And you should consider not trying to beat another member with a stick whether handed to you or not.

An even simpler solution.


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 5:47 pm 
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Stop trying to stir trouble Caledfwlch.


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
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Jenny wrote:
Stop trying to stir trouble Caledfwlch.

Absolutely.
This is clearly his agenda, and he's had us all running around for the last hour.
When that sort of child starts acting up in the playground, best policy is to ignore it, rather than rise to its jibes.


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
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Jenny wrote:
Stop trying to stir trouble Caledfwlch.


So it's all right for me to be attacked but not to respond to such attacks?

This is your way of "getting on" I take it?


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
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DVB wrote:
This is clearly his agenda, and he's had us all running around for the last hour.
When that sort of child starts acting up in the playground, best policy is to ignore it, rather than rise to its jibes.


You, of course, don't have an agenda , do you?

You try to belittle me. You refer to me as a child in a playground.

Who is it making jibes?

Where are my jibes and unpleasant remarks?

All I have done is respond to yours.


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
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I did ask it on the unoffical "17 Questions: David Farrant" but got no response. Here goes for the second time on the official "17 Questions: David Farrant":

In your interview you say "I am also involved in a full-length feature film on the Highgate Vampire case at the moment, which is due for release in 2010."

Would you tell us more about this film, your part in it and who is producing it?

According to what you posted on the unoffical thread an answer should be eventually forthcoming.

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Thank you for your reference about not being obliged (myself) to answer any questions. I know! But I have always made it my policy to answer questions about anything I have said in public or may have written about in my books or other articles. As to refuse to answer questions (which I never do unless I genuinely can't, then I'll say I just don't know), is somehow taking the 'coward's way out'. If you state something in public, I just feel you are morally obliged to answer questions about what you may have stated.


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 6:23 pm 
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Hello Jenny

And thanks for your question which was:

Anyway, here is a question for you:
When did you first meet the author and exorcist Gareth J. Medway and how many investigations have you undertaken together?

Thanks
Jen.
x.

I first met author Gareth J Medway at a Talk I gave for The Secret Chiefs in London in 2002 (could have been 2001, I not really sure.) He asked me some public questions after my Talk
then approached me privately for more details which I gave him. It turned out he was writing a chapter on the Highgate affair for another book and he wanted to include myself in this. I invited hime to my flat, and he's still coming over!

There were quite a few investigations, and still more planned. It would be rather long to detail these but we (and others) have visited private homes after being asked to look into some paranormal disturbance or other; and also visited other allegedly haunted local places, many of these not inhabited (churches or ruins for example). One of the better known ones was Robin Hood's grave in Yorkshire, where we performed a Blessing Ceremony at the graveside in 2005. Gareth performed this using Ancient Greek incantations while I assisted him.

Can I ask, Jen, are you from the UK or America? I only ask because I am quite willing to tell you about any more, although you may not know of these if are American. But there are quite a few more, although maybe not so well known as Robin Hood's grave.

I have not taken too much notice of the remarks by 'Caledfwich' as I found these to be argumentative and petty to be honest,

But that will not affect my answers to yourself, so please ask if there's anymore questions you might have.

And its nice to have met you 'properly' now!

Thanks Jen,

David (Farrant)


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 6:29 pm 
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Caledfwlch wrote:
So this is not a forum for the discussion of thread titles?

This is a place where bullies meet to set their own agenda.



The way forums work, is thus:

1- Person starts a thread with a certain topic.
2- People join in.
3- Topic very quickly, goes off topic, as stated by DVB when he said 'way off topic'.
4- People go with the flow.
5- Eventually topic goes back on thread.
6- Or doesn't.
7- The world doesn't end.


Calm down.


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 8:47 pm 
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Caledfwlch wrote:
So this is not a forum for the discussion of thread titles?

This is a place where bullies meet to set their own agenda.




zzzzzzzz.....


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 9:44 pm 
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One of the better known ones was Robin Hood's grave in Yorkshire, where we performed a Blessing Ceremony at the graveside in 2005. Gareth performed this using Ancient Greek incantations while I assisted him.


Hello again David,

Here's hoping that later you will be continuing at addressing this further in the Robin Hood thread here. It should be at your comfort and leisure of course and I believe all readers have seen how your busy schedule is complicated further by your generosity here.

Some photos have been sent my way that shouldn't be posted without your approval and comment and there is no hurry to get them on here without more research for presentation on this end and a perceived need for not having the threads discussions jumping back forth into the same topics.

Thanks for the consideration,
All in good time. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
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Thank you TCJ,

Yes, you are right, I really am quite occupied at the moment – especially with this current film schedule and writing to go with it. Not even to mention working on the 2nd volume of my book.
I don’t know! All these things seem to come at once to replace otherwise ‘fairly steady quietness’. I really can’t become involved in another thread here at the moment – two is enough to have to read and maybe reply to.

But as you have an interest in the Robin Hood legend, I’ll help if I can, if only in a limited way: If you like, I can PM you my email, and you could then send me the pictures for confirmation, and I could then send you a brief account that related to the circumstances of that investigation which, obviously also involved Barbara.

I am sure I could find time to do that, but I would have to leave you to take it from there. I mean, I could answer the odd query, but would not really have time to devote to it in the normal way. That might sound ‘slightly callous’, I know, as I am the Patron of the Yorkshire Robin Hood Society, but I am just being realistic in view of present circumstances.

So please let me know here if I should PM you my email address so that you could send the pictures. Gareth might also like to help you on this though, now I understand he has got – or is currently getting – his own account on Arcadia.

Thanks TCJ

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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 11:15 pm 
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That is all very fine David and the answer I had hoped to receive.
No slight callousness is taken here by any means at all and I feared I might have put more effort upon myself that is distracting me away lately in my own life beyond this forum.

It would done be in a small way of verification of accuracya as you mention and with Damiana's knowledge of details the main part. Your compatriots input would be considered most welcome also.

No rush...especially on my part. I'm swamped here with piles of 'real' work :)


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009 11:40 pm 
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Hi Dave, nice to see ya back in the fray. I hope that tizzy of a tempest in a teacup has resided. I had no idea temper tantrums were the replacement of what Pink Floyd once said... silent desperation is the English way...

I guess the CHAVs of the world have to have on outlet to vent their ill perceived grievances. Now back to our previous chat. I will give ya an example of what happens here locally and I'd like yer take on it. Its a shame ya don't read Swedish, 'cuz it was a full page article of a haunting spot here in town.

The location is the 5th floor of a Hotel previously owned by a spin off of SAS airlines for its personnel in transit, as well as for charter trip guests, etc. Here is the short history. This hotel was built 100+ years ago. It was the ritziest place in town. Its restaurant was the best the town had to offer back then. Rooms on the 5th floor were rented out by the hour for, 'assignations', 'trysts', whatever clandestine type of sex folk dreamed up. So as the poplar tale goes a wealthy biz man had his liasions with a 'lover' a couple times a week up there. One day wifey finds out, she gets up stairs before hubby does, and then the next thing folks know, 'lover' disappears, wifey mysteriously appears at home even tho' folk who dropped by rang the doorbell and got no response.

Shortly thereafter, folk who used the same room 'lover' was trysted in, especially women guests, would suddenly find themself on the floor as if they were brusquely tossed out of bed. Over the years the stories of these women being disturbed in their sleep seemed to taper off, 'til SAS took the hotel over and the Stewardesses started experiencing these mid night dump on the floor jobs.

It got to the point no stewardess would take a room assigned to them on the 5th floor. The day the local newspaper wrote its story after visiting the 5th floor, took a couple of routine location photos and a small whitish like shadow/silhouette appeared on one of them. in the proximity of the fabled room. Not everybody believes in spooky stuff like this, but when ya consider how many stewardesses SAS had over the years using that hotel, ya'd think one of them was brave 'nuff to challenge that notion, but, no takers.

The article went on to mention that SAS has 3 hotels with this sort of jinxed room connection. Now the query I raise is this, how much does 'farce' play in to this?, how much does low self esteem play into it?, how much is based on superstition? Suggestibility?

Since there was no witnessed 'being tossed out of bed on to the floor' incidents, its all hearsay on the part of somebody sleeping in a converted attic. How come its only restricted to women? Is there a negative connotation associated with being a stewardess? sleeping in a room once used for women of ill-repute? The scenarios are endless. The rumor is alive and well within the ranks of SAS stewardesses.

There is no adjacent cemetery, the town has 2 large cemeteries, one adjacent to the city hospital, the other next to a chapel designated for funeral services. The hotel is not that close to either of them. No abandoned/converted slaughterhouses, like ya can find in downtown Copenhagen are nearby.

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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
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Thanks Jabberwoc,

Its very difficult for me to make any assessment on this case without knowing more exact facts. Speaking very generally, and from a psychic point of view at least, such ‘attacks’ upon sleeping people are not that uncommon.

I know of one case where a lady was thrown out of bed, and although she had been dreaming, she didn’t fully wake up until she ‘hit the floor’.

If I was in Sweden (which obviously I’m not), I would try and find out the exact location of the hotel; when it was built; and when these ‘attacks’ first started. Obviously the latter might be difficult when sometimes there are no witnesses, but sometimes even stories can give clues.

The next obvious step would be to try and find somebody who had been ‘attacked’ in such a way and get his or her account (in this case, presumably a woman). I would then want to interview her personally and progress from there.

The next step would be to try and obtain permission for a qualified person to sleep in the 5th floor room with some means (such as an all-night vision camera) to record anything that might happen.

I am only talking generally, of course, because I do not have any investigators in Sweden for one thing!

But thanks for your account. Anymore details would be welcome.

David Farrant


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 Post subject: Re: '17 Questions': David Farrant (the official thread)
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DavidFarrant wrote:
I have always made it my policy to answer questions about anything I have said in public or may have written about in my books or other articles. As to refuse to answer questions (which I never do unless I genuinely can't, then I'll say I just don't know), is somehow taking the 'coward's way out'. If you state something in public, I just feel you are morally obliged to answer questions about what you may have stated.



In your interview you say "I am also involved in a full-length feature film on the Highgate Vampire case at the moment, which is due for release in 2010."

Would you tell us more about this film, your part in it and who is producing it?

I feel this is a legitimate question and I can't understand why you are refusing to answer it.


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