Again, as always, please accept my apologies for my poor English
Is there any evidence at all that the so-called Shepherdess Message was ever genuinely 'encrypted' and then 'decrypted' by anyone other than de Cherisey. Both de Sede and Lincoln et al claimed that they gave the 'code' to cipher experts, but to no avail. Appartently the code itself was unbreakable. In the end de Cherisey simply sent interested parties the 'decrypted' message and the cipher solution!
First of all, any expert in cryptography knows if what he is looking at is
-a coded message or
- a simple string of nonsense someone else presumes to be a coded message.
If an expert has ever studied the message in discussion, he would certainly have realized if it's worth the effort or not
Sparty, Davinho and other users gave proof of rationality, integrity and decency when this forum confronted itself with a serious deviation from the basic rules of common sense. Of course, I'm speaking of the "Tombman Affair". But I'm also referring to the sectarian deviations of certain groups that rushed to legitimize their doctrine upon the "tombman affair".
Sparty,, I really admire your skepticism as well as your arguments. Your only problem is that you don't have enough information and/ or your image of the PoS/RLB/RLC mystery is extremely influenced by that current which is willing to deny all in corpore. We must take care not to fall in the Paul Smith extreme as there is the risk of throwing out the baby along with the dirty water. Ah by the way Louv, Nicolas Haywood has nothing to do with the so called Priory of Sion, but Paul Smith has.
Unfortunately, I notice that there are very few users that take seriously the so-called "source-documents".
To take seriously doesn't mean to believe in them blindly. It just means to study them seriously.
I understand that Sparty's frustration comes from the fact that he is wondering whether these documents are worth the effort of being studied or not.
My personal opinion is YES.
They're worth it.
They're worth it, because there is something beyond the "Pos/RLC/RLB" mystery.
This something ... is the authentic initiatic message.
Or if we are not looking for an authentic initiatic message, at least we can find out more about the origin of one of the most controversial subject of this era dominated by conspiracy theories. Masonry.
I repeat, what I'm writing here, does not represent my point of view. I'm just trying to put together some elements that have been ignored or put in a wrong context.
Thus, regarding MORT EPEE.
A simple reevaluation (rereading) of the essential texts connected to the subject discussed on the forum, is more than necessary. There are some materials more or less public, that could help eliminate many confusions. Deliberate or not confusions.
One of the essential texts is CIRCUIT.
CIRCUIT, is a work erroneously attributed to the Marquis de Cherisey, given the fact that the contractual arrangements provide him with only 35% of the paternity of the work.
In reality his 100% contribution resumes only to the epilogue "L'alibi d'0" and the fabrication of some parchments, as documentary material (props) that was to be used in a movie about RLC.
Initially the parchments were not supposed to be presented as being authentic.
They were supposed to be presented as what they were. That is samples of coding
of some initiatic messages, publicly put into CIRCULATION, which have precise targets...
The message on the Tombstone of Marie de Negre was just a pretext, given the content of the movie...
The CIRCUIT is an initatic work structured on:
-22 chapters that correspond to the 22 major arcanas of tarot du Marseille and to the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet.
-A preface which is the key in which the work has to be decrypted. The preface is symbolically attributed to DINGRON-MOZART .
To be read (DM - Deis Manibus).
-an epilogue, called "L'alibi d'0", added afterwards.
MORT EPEE is connected to both
1. the identity of the Great Roman as well as
2. "the pass word" to the Ark of the 13th. Attention, I have said that "it is connected to", not that it is " the pass word".
- Sheila has pointed out very well "les Treize Ors de l"Arene" that is the edifice of the Ark.
-Rain also mentioned the phonetic Cabbala...
From what I know "les Treize Ors de l'Arene" (to be read Tresors de l'Arene) refers to the real edifice situated in the proximity of RLB.
This edifice is roman in origin and it is said it has a checkered floor near the inscription AVC MM CD XXX IV referring to Anno Domini 1681.
1681 is not so much a date but a term within a calculation that measures the distance of the imaginary line called "17 January". This imaginary line is also the "projection" in the landscape between the two Rennes of the Parisian metro line between Vincennes and Defense (22 ligne jaune). The resulting measure is expressed in meters. Instead 681 is another measure that indicates a precise location situated south to RLB and expressed in Toise.
Worth mentioning is the fact that there is no longer a material treasure in RLB/RLC in the sense understood by treasure hunters. But there are certain vestiges of archeological nature that have a special value in strict historical and religious terms. But the religious value has nothing to do with the "Mary Magdalene cult" and in any case cannot legitimize the militant feminism.
In what regards Pompey and the identity of the Great Roman, we have the following explanation:
[...]CRITIAS – Eh bien, si Sertorius, son rival, ent enterré dans l’île de Fer, il est lui-même enterré à Rennes, fondant ainsi le dialogue entre deux méridiens 0. Vaincu à Naulochus par Agrippa, le grand Pompée passe en Asie Mineure et mourt assassiné à Milet. Des philosophes milésiene embaument son corps qui devient objet de vénération jusqu ‘à ce que les Arabes s’emparant de la relique, la déposent à Rennes lors de l’invasion du Languedoc et lui fassant une inviolable sépulture de marbre et de plombe près du Rocko-Negro. La plaque funéraire existe toujours ; on peut la voir au musée de Perpignan. C. POMPEIUS QUARTUS DM SVO. [...]
This fragment contains an intentional error. A distortion in time. A historical inadvertence that draws our attention to the rules established right at the beginning of CIRCUIT.
These rules are imposed through the test Amedee is subjected to.
Through this test Amedee has to identify some CONTRADICTIONS and some TIME DISTORTIONS.
The author warns us that these intentional errors appear along the entire story...
In order to solve the huge puzzle the CIRCUIT in itself is, we must pay attention to them...
What we know from history is the fact that it is not Pompey Magnus the one being defeated at Naulochus by Agrippa ... but his son Sextus and furthermore, this Sextus is the one killed in Milet.
In return, also from official history we know that before being killed in Egipt, Pompey met in Mytilene with his son Sextus and his wife Cornellia. Let us not forget that the theatre in Mytilene was used as model for the Theatre of Pompey, as Sheila has pointed out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_Pompey
Milet and Mytilene are approximately 180 km away one from another on the same western coast of Anatolia.
For those that have studied Le Cercle or Vaincre there is no secret that MORT EPEE is related with the checkered floor mentioned in the so-called "Dubosc Document".
There has been much discussion on this forum regarding the "knights tour" and about "Vigenere" etc.
Very few people know that the so-called masonic "claudicating", as well as the masonic checkered floor, have their origin in an ancient initiatic ritual which is exactly the one described in CIRCUIT.
This type of initiation that circulates in the Mediterranean area, has reached the British Isles in a crippled manner and evolved in what we call today masonry.
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