Arcadia Discussion Zone

No. This is a pasty white guy. Get your heroes straight.

Hey, i'm not a holocaust denier, why can the subject not be discussed by those who wish to do so.

Conclusions

We have been blinded by our tears of sympathy for the supposed victims. We have been blinded by our tears of shame for deeds which people just like ourselves might have committed. But if we dare to wipe those tears away and look at the "Holocaust" evidence critically with sober heads, we find that there are no grounds for any such tears at all.

The mass-murder technology that was supposedly used to kill millions of people would not have worked. However, a mass-murder technology based upon the hydrocyanic acid delousing chambers would have worked quite well indeed. The SS certainly had an abundance of expertise in this technology since they were employing it themselves, daily, with their own specially trained personnel-and even had their own school for pesticide specialists. [ 25]

Surely Adolf Eichmann and some of the people around him must have had considerable expertise in railroad transportation. How could they have been unaware of the existence of the railroad delousing tunnels and their potential for mass-murder?

The purpose of the delousing chambers was to save lives-and that is not denied except by the most passionate Exterminationist. No doubt, many hundreds of thousands of people, possibly millions, including countless Jews, owe their lives to these chambers and the German technology based upon Zyklon-B.

How could the same Germans-particularly, the SS and the people from DEGESCH-who used a highly developed technology to kill lice in order to save countless human lives have simultaneously tried to use a pathetically primitive technology, which could not have even worked in the manner alleged, to destroy millions of human lives? How could they have used well-designed gas chambers with circulation to try to save millions of people from typhus while at the same time trying to use badly designed chambers without circulation to kill millions of people? How could they have been using an advanced technology to save people who were in many cases the very same people, namely Jews, that they were simultaneously trying to kill but with the most primitive variations of the same technology?

There are no answers to these reasonable questions even after forty years nor are there ever likely to be any answers consistent with an extermination thesis. In the absence of any proof based upon forensic evidence of even one case of death by gassing with cyanide at the hands of the Germans or of any other reliable evidence-the "evidence," such as it is, consists almost exclusively of "confessions" and fantastic anecdotes of "survivors"-one should reject the "Holocaust" claims as self-serving propaganda. What is clear from any careful technical analysis of the supposed gas chambers for mass extermination is that the "Holocaust" story is absurd.

What I find is that almost all 'modern' Holocaust-Deniers have had their 'heads turned' by claims made on the Internet. They read these claims (which are almost always begun by out-andout Neo-Nazis) and find them seemingly persuasive and even seemingly well argued. Unfortunately, Holocaust-Deniers don't generally spend an equal amount of time reading academic literature which would clearly show that the conditions that created the Holocaust were absolutely 'in place' at precisely the period in question.

Sheila, might I make a suggestion before you go too far? You should do some research about the Holocaust and the conditions that created it, but from an academic view. Keep clear of the Neo-Nazi Internet claims until you have a real working knowledge of the question at hand, and then go back and examine those Neo-Nazi claims...

You might even go back and simply read the many quotes I posted from leading Nazi who openly declared that they were going to exterminate the European Jews. Ask yourself this... did they simply fail to carry out this extermination that they were so intent upon. Or simply even examine the plight of Poland's Jews alone during the Nazi occupation of Poland. There were over 2 million before the invasion...

FACTS???? Prove it Roscoe. And the "article" only refers to Dachau, and isn't it convenient to have a delousing centre in a CREMATORIUM? Sheeeesh. Grow a brain man.

"In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish efforts rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt (ooohh errr?) to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide revolutionary conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster has ably shown, a definite recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworlds of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of the enormous empire.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creating of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It is certainly the very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders... In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astounding. And the prominent if not the principal part in the system of terrorism applied by the extraordinary Commissions for combating Counter Revolution has been take by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many nonJews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.

("Zionism versus Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People." ILLUSTRATED SUNDAY HERALD, London, February 8, 1920.)

Internet Hate Crime





Offensive Material and the Law

The Internet has changed the way we communicate, it has many positive values but it has also allowed the hateful to spread offence to a broader audience, without editorial control and often behind a veil of anonymity.

While you may come across a lot of material on the internet that offends you, very little of it is actually illegal. UK laws are written to make sure that people can speak and write, even offensive material, without being prosecuted for their views. Parliament has tried to define laws in a way that balances our freedom of expression with the right to be free from hate crime.

Agencies like the police have duties to promote good relationships between different parts of our communities, but they do not have powers to control offensive thoughts or words unless they are shared illegally. We understand that hate material can damage community cohesion and create fear, so the police want to work alongside communities and the Internet industry to reduce the harm caused by hate on the Internet.

You can get advice on staying safe on the internet at Get Safe Online here.

Illegal Hate Content

Inciting hatred

In England and Wales it can be an offence to stir up hatred on the grounds of:
•Race
•Religion
•Sexual Orientation.

(There is no similar offence relating to disability or transgender)

Other offences

The content of a website can also be illegal when it threatens or harasses a person or a group of people. If this is posted because of hostility based on race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or transgender then we consider it to be a hate crime.

Illegal material could be in words, pictures, videos, and even music and could include;
•messages calling for racial or religious violence
•web pages with pictures, videos or descriptions that glorify violence against anyone due to their race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or because they are transgender.
•chat forums where people ask other people to commit hate crimes

Terrorist material

If material promotes terrorism you should report it via the dedicated portal via the Directgov website here.

Websites from outside the United Kingdom

The Supreme Court has indicated that an offence is committed where the person posts or controls the material in this country. Therefore, much material that can be viewed in the UK is outside the jurisdiction of our courts. The USA, for instance does not have offences of inciting racial hatred but if someone inside the UK posts on a foreign site then that could still be illegal here. (The person posting is always responsible for their content and web hosts could be if they, for instance, encourage or knowingly allow it to remain)

What you can do about online hate material

Most hateful or violent website content is not illegal but you can still take the steps below to have it removed if it upsets, scares or offends you.

Option One - Report it to the website administrator

Most websites have rules known as ‘acceptable use policies’ that set out what cannot be put on their website. Most do not allow comments, videos and photos that offend or hurt people.

Popular websites such as Facebook, YouTube or BBC News have simple ways for you to complain about a page or video.

If what you’ve seen is on a site with a good complaints system, you should report it to the website’s owners. Look out for their ‘contact us’ page, which should be clearly linked.

Others will have a ‘report this page’ button that you can click.

Option Two - Report it to the hosting company

If the website itself is hateful or supports violence then let the website’s hosting company know.

Hosting companies provide a place where the website sits, and often have rules about what they are willing to host. Let the hosting company know they are hosting a website that breaks their rules, and ask them to stop.

You can find out which company hosts a website by entering their web address on the ‘Who is hosting this?’ website.

You can also contact your own internet supplier to get more information.

Option Three - Report illegal Internet material to the police

If the website you have seen online matches the description of illegal content above and you think it originates in the UK, you should report it to the police. You can do that from here.

Please note that this is not a 24 hour emergency service. If there is any immediate risk then please dial 999 to tell the police of any danger.

Option a - If you have been personallly targeted by the material, then click here to report it to your local police.

Option b - For all other hate crime on the internet click here to report to the police centrally

Option c - If the crime is not an internet based offence click here to report to your local police force

http://www.report-it.org.uk/reporting_internet_hate_crime

http://www.report-it.org.uk/reporting_internet_hate_crime

Before HBHG there was No Country For Pissed Off Old Men. Now there is.
Best proof is roscoe.

Don't worry, he trawls the posts, like a vulture for carrion. That's why it's so easy to yank his chain.
As for professional advice....well, I'm feeling generous today, let's start with:
"Take ALL your tablets Boyo, not just the ones you think will help".

Oh and by the way the ADL (Anti-Defamation League) is listed by the FBI as a terrorist organisation.

I believe the phrase is:

Hoisted by your own Petard.

Nice try

No Banana.

"Never in the field of Internet social networking has so many ignorant twats been blown away in such a short space of time by so few"
Smartipants Paraphrase.

Eat yer heart out Winston.

Any more? I'm enjoying this.

The JDL (Jewish Defense League) is on the FBI's watch list, not the ADL (Anti-Defamation League).

I'm sure you knew that and deliberately maligned the ADL, of course, as anti-Semites are wont to do on an ongoing basis.

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