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PostPosted: 22 Mar 2012 5:25 pm 
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Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
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Paul,
It might appear to the out side observer that you are rather overplaying your hand here which does raise an interesting series of questions.
In an earlier post you kindly shared that one of the reasons that you were prepared to force Ben's hand was that you
" loved " her. Which particular greek version of this word did you have in mind?
What was your dear wife's reaction to being informed of your decision to go to RLC and possibly devote a considerable sum of money to proving Sandy right?

TD


Mon cher Thomas, vous continuez de faire la grave erreur de toujours echafauder des suppositions crapuleuses en oubliant que votre handicap mental vous interdit ce genre d'exercice sans vous couvrir de ridicule. Vous avez maintenant toutes les apparences d'une de ces petites frappes de Fleet Street dont votre pays detient le secret et en fait l'elevage exclusif.

Vous devriez vraiment apprendre a vous taire, ne serait-ce que pour preserver un modicum de respectabilite, si c'est encore possible.


Roger, Merde


Au contraire mon cher SP!
The varified atmosphere in which he exists means he just doesn't get how ridiculous he appears!
I'm hoping he'll carry on!
TD/UU :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2012 5:26 pm 
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Roger, Merde


According to google translate Merde means shit :shock:
Are you calling Roger a shit Sparticus?


Tertius aint Roger . Roger was able to write in English.


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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2012 5:26 pm 
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DRAC was taken to the cave but Ben refused to show them the shaft there. This is what Bruce Burgess told me in the respective thread.

What is extremely interesting: IF Ben would have "made" this tomb by himself (and if it would be in London or somewhere) then he COULD prove that. Over photos, over explaining how he really made the mummy, etc etc. Can he prove that? Is he ready to do so? He would have nothing to loose to really show this "tomb" and indicate its location.

BUT: I think that is just another lie. There is a story behind the story and the one he presents (made everything by himself, bought hair from Jerusalem, ink from Paris, etc) is freaking shaky....

LET ME SPECULATE: I still believe that Ben himself has no clue where this faked tomb really is...I can be totally wrong but I do not buy his explanations so far. But he of course can prove this speculation wrong by giving some proofs of how he made this fake. Photos, tapes, showing the location (let me guess: it does not exist anymore...). I think the 60+ times in RLC was trying to locate this tomb and of course there were more people involved because you cannot hold a shaky camera AND cut the shroud at the same time. There have been at least 2 persons. So one already missing in the game...

Not that I believe the tomb is real (should be clear for the ones who know my fights with the "team") but I think that is not the full picture Ben is presenting us....


FMH that is where I am
you said it so well

I would like to see the model and photos then I would feel more satisfied but to think one person could do all this
and fool Oxford and archeologists who study mummified bodies
Ben needs to get a job in Hollywood doing set design :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here is a question
Why did he paint the wood to look like a the rose plinth or the rose marble?
for what reason?

Why did he go to that much trouble? What significance was it?

Anybody got an answer?

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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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Pilrig wrote:
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Would a 'hoaxer' make 60+ trips to the site of his crime? And then out himself? No. It is clear that this entire confession is the hoax. Ben is going to bide his time and continue to guard his tomb.


Did you write this or did I write this? You are obstructing the path to truth with your deliberate mis-attributions and your support of Ben Hammott. Why are you choosing to believe a known liar?


WTF?
anyone else confused about this, like me?


It's getting like a soap opera...body under the patio, anyone ? :lol:


IMHO it is like a Sit Com. That radio interview was hilarious...

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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2012 5:28 pm 
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Roger, Merde


According to google translate Merde means shit :shock:
Are you calling Roger a shit Sparticus?


Tertius aint Roger . Roger was able to write in English.


He wrote Roger not Tertius :D


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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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Then it was known that it was a fraud already? So what is all the fuss about?


Oui, exactement. Le "fuss", ce sont simplement des reglements de comptes entre ouistitis du forum.


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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2012 5:32 pm 
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tingra wrote:
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Roger, Merde


According to google translate Merde means shit :shock:
Are you calling Roger a shit Sparticus?


As if by magic the back up team swings into action!
Can't you let the big boy sort his own mess out for once?
Anyway, didn't think Roger was tertius in your eyes!!!!!
TD/UU
:lol: :lol:

Pilrig, for the majority of his posts so could 'Tertius'! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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According to google translate Merde means shit


did you really need google translate for that?


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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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Spartacus Paraclete wrote:

IMHO it is like a Sit Com. That radio interview was hilarious...


Jeremy Paxman, Rene ain't....

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Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
Tertius wrote:
jlockest wrote:
Then it was known that it was a fraud already? So what is all the fuss about?


Oui, exactement. Le "fuss", ce sont simplement des reglements de comptes entre ouistitis du forum.


Roger, Merde


Sparticus are you P Smith?
It will be the devil dog next :lol:
Take a chill pill man, Your stuttering, or is it trigger finger :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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According to google translate Merde means shit


did you really need google translate for that?


Fraid so, I don't do French :D


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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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Le petit Spartacus fait preuve de tellement d'esprit et d'erudition que je n'arrive pas a contenir mon impatience de lire son livre..

Quant a vous, Thomas, la celebre phrase du President de la Republique Sarkozy (casse toi, pauv' etc.) me semble particulierement bien adaptee..


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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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According to google translate Merde means shit


did you really need google translate for that?


Er, I think thats what passes for irony in the 'toon'
TD :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2012 5:37 pm 
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Thomas D. wrote:
tingra wrote:
Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
Roger, Merde


According to google translate Merde means shit :shock:
Are you calling Roger a shit Sparticus?


As if by magic the back up team swings into action!
Can't you let the big boy sort his own mess out for once?
Anyway, didn't think Roger was tertius in your eyes!!!!!
TD/UU
:lol: :lol:

Pilrig, for the majority of his posts so could 'Tertius'! :lol:


He said Roger not Tertius, just wanted to be clear TD :D


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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2012 5:38 pm 
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jlockest wrote:
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IMHO it is like a Sit Com. That radio interview was hilarious...


Jeremy Paxman, Rene ain't....


Still, I have to ask, was I the only one who found it hilarious?

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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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Tertius wrote:
Le petit Spartacus fait preuve de tellement d'esprit et d'erudition que je n'arrive pas a contenir mon impatience de lire son livre..

Quant a vous, Thomas, la celebre phrase du President de la Republique Sarkozy (casse toi, pauv' etc.) me semble particulierement bien adaptee..


:lol:

Roger, Merde...

Wow, at least one future sale in the bag. Nice...

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Tertius wrote:
Le petit Spartacus fait preuve de tellement d'esprit et d'erudition que je n'arrive pas a contenir mon impatience de lire son livre..

Quant a vous, Thomas, la celebre phrase du President de la Republique Sarkozy (casse toi, pauv' etc.) me semble particulierement bien adaptee..



More, more Roger!
Hit me baby, one more time!
I bet he never thought he'd be quoting Sarkozy in public!

Keep it up the crowd are loving it, especially now Tingra's outed you officially.
(As if there was any doubt) :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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Tina wrote:
Sparticus are you P Smith?
It will be the devil dog next
Take a chill pill man, Your stuttering, or is it trigger finger


Tina, are you Roger in drag?

I'm confused - do you mean 'your stuttering, or is it trigger, finger...'

or 'you're stuttering, or is it trigger finger?'

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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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He said Roger not Tertius, just wanted to be clear TD :D


Yep and with one mere mention of his name you leapt straight in with both feet!!!!!

Priceless Pet, Priceless!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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Aprositus Nesos wrote:
I'm certain there was more, but that is what I can think of for the moment. As for convincing the filmmakers, that must have been an enormously complex series of lies, slights of hand, etc. over a very long period of time.


I disagree. I attended the film's premiere in Los Angeles and took part in the Q&A that followed, pressing both Burgess and Barnett on several points of contention that had surfaced by that time. It was clear to me, and to others I'd brought along with me, that they were engaging in a good deal of subterfuge themselves. I find it difficult to believe they weren't well aware of the deficiencies four years ago. Which is not to say that they were involved in crafting the hoax, but merely that they must have known at that time that there were serious problems and were pulling out all the stops to protect their film.

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That's then even more reason to have the site opened surely? IF an expert expressed an opinion that the body was real, then at what stage was that, and shouldn't some official body have been brought in then as for all anyone knew, they could have been looking at a crime scene (as it turned out to be, but not the crime you may have thought ;-)). That is my point. If say the expert said '...yes it is a body...' in 2010 (or whenever), then at that point don't you chase DRAC or the police like mad to get something done? Nobody seems to have done anything - no vetting of the location pre-release, no chase up post release.


The closest they came to any sort of qualified opinion was the DNA analysis from Lakehead University, which was conducted using a hair sample which Ben said came from the "corpse" and that he's now saying came from a woman in Israel (living, I presume). The lab never said they'd seen or examined a body, and DRAC was very clear (in my estimation) that they weren't given a specific location and thus couldn't have gone out to investigate themselves.

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 Post subject: Re: Ark of the covenant
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but merely that they must have known at that time that there were serious problems and were pulling out all the stops to protect their film.


Oui. Ils ont presente leur coffret de "reliques" de la Madeleine aux premieres du film, en sachant parfaitement bien que ce coffret avait ete recupere dans une grotte vide peu de temps avant.

Il y a donc eu un deni conscient de la realite.


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Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
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Sparticus are you P Smith?
It will be the devil dog next
Take a chill pill man, Your stuttering, or is it trigger finger


Tina, are you Roger in drag?

I'm confused - do you mean 'your stuttering, or is it trigger, finger...'

or 'you're stuttering, or is it trigger finger?'


Why did you call Roger a shit Sparticus? I am curious is all :D


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but merely that they must have known at that time that there were serious problems and were pulling out all the stops to protect their film.


Oui. Ils ont presente leur coffret de "reliques" de la Madeleine aux premieres du film, en sachant parfaitement bien que ce coffret avait ete recupere dans une grotte vide peu de temps avant.

Il y a donc eu un deni conscient de la realite.



Sorry?

:lol: :lol:

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TCP wrote:
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Aprositus Nesos wrote:
I'm certain there was more, but that is what I can think of for the moment. As for convincing the filmmakers, that must have been an enormously complex series of lies, slights of hand, etc. over a very long period of time.


I disagree. I attended the film's premiere in Los Angeles and took part in the Q&A that followed, pressing both Burgess and Barnett on several points of contention that had surfaced by that time. It was clear to me, and to others I'd brought along with me, that they were engaging in a good deal of subterfuge themselves. I find it difficult to believe they weren't well aware of the deficiencies four years ago. Which is not to say that they were involved in crafting the hoax, but merely that they must have known at that time that there were serious problems and were pulling out all the stops to protect their film.

jlockest wrote:
That's then even more reason to have the site opened surely? IF an expert expressed an opinion that the body was real, then at what stage was that, and shouldn't some official body have been brought in then as for all anyone knew, they could have been looking at a crime scene (as it turned out to be, but not the crime you may have thought ;-)). That is my point. If say the expert said '...yes it is a body...' in 2010 (or whenever), then at that point don't you chase DRAC or the police like mad to get something done? Nobody seems to have done anything - no vetting of the location pre-release, no chase up post release.


The closest they came to any sort of qualified opinion was the DNA analysis from Lakehead University, which was conducted using a hair sample which Ben said came from the "corpse" and that he's now saying came from a woman in Israel (living, I presume). The lab never said they'd seen or examined a body, and DRAC was very clear (in my estimation) that they weren't given a specific location and thus couldn't have gone out to investigate themselves.

TCP


yes TCP and no one is asked in the interview HOW and WHO this lady was in Jerusalem>
And Did Ben go to Jerusalem to get it?
that Jerusalem lady made me wonder is Israel involved in this fiasco?
How was he so sure the DNA would come out the way he or they wanted?
DNA testing at Lakehead could they determine a dead hair from a live one?

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Pilrig wrote:
tingra wrote:
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Roger, Merde


According to google translate Merde means shit :shock:
Are you calling Roger a shit Sparticus?


Tertius aint Roger . Roger was able to write in English.


♭ ♯ ♫ Meet Tertius, who's lived most everywhere
From Zanzibar to Berkeley Square
But Roger's only seen the sights
A boy can see from Shaker Heights
What a crazy pair!
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