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 Post subject: Re: Maguelonne
PostPosted: 04 May 2012 8:42 pm 
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Thought you would like this Rain!


Thank Renne I do love indeed. I love the sides it reminds of the Elven rings in LOTR.

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 Post subject: Mt. Bugarach
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Mt. Bugarach seen from the RLC tower. The RLC parchment refers to St. Anthony, has no one connected the parchment to the Gorge of Galamus hermitage?

"Anthony the Great or Antony the Great (ca. 251–356), also known as Saint Anthony, Anthony of Egypt, Anthony the Abbot,
Anthony of the Desert, Anthony the Anchorite, Anthony of Thebes, Abba Antonius (Ἀββᾶς Ἀντώνιος), and Father of All Monks,
was a Christian saint from Egypt, a prominent leader among the Desert Fathers. He is celebrated in many churches on his feast
days: 30 January in the Old-Calendar Eastern Orthodox Church and the Coptic Orthodox Church; 17 January in the New-Calendar
Eastern Orthodox Church, the Bulgarian Orthodox Church, the Roman Catholic Church and the Coptic Catholic Church.

The biography of Anthony's life by Athanasius of Alexandria helped to spread the concept of monasticism, particularly in Western
Europe through Latin translations. He is often erroneously considered the first monk, but as his biography and other sources make
clear, there were many ascetics before him. Anthony was, however, the first known ascetic going into the wilderness
(about A.D. 270–271), a geographical move that seems to have contributed to his renown. Accounts of Anthony enduring
supernatural temptation during his sojourn in the Libyan Desert inspired the often-repeated subject of the temptation of St. Anthony
in Western art and literature."

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 Post subject: Galamus
PostPosted: 05 May 2012 12:21 am 
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The chapel of St. Anthony in the Gorge of Galamus which contains the magic square - formerly known

as an entrance to the Underworld. St. Anthony and Mary Magdalene are both honored there, why has no

one connected this location to "Shepherdess No Temptation..."?

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 Post subject: Re: Mt. Bugarach
PostPosted: 05 May 2012 12:30 am 
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Renne wrote:

Mt. Bugarach seen from the RLC tower. The RLC parchment refers to St. Anthony, has no one connected the parchment to the Gorge of Galamus hermitage?

"Anthony the Great or Antony the Great (ca. 251–356), also known as Saint Anthony, Anthony of Egypt, Anthony the Abbot,
Anthony of the Desert, Anthony the Anchorite, Anthony of Thebes, Abba Antonius (Ἀββᾶς Ἀντώνιος), and Father of All Monks,
was a Christian saint from Egypt, a prominent leader among the Desert Fathers. He is celebrated in many churches on his feast
days: 30 January in the Old-Calendar Eastern Orthodox Church and the Coptic Orthodox Church; 17 January in the New-Calendar
Eastern Orthodox Church, the Bulgarian Orthodox Church, the Roman Catholic Church and the Coptic Catholic Church.

The biography of Anthony's life by Athanasius of Alexandria helped to spread the concept of monasticism, particularly in Western
Europe through Latin translations. He is often erroneously considered the first monk, but as his biography and other sources make
clear, there were many ascetics before him. Anthony was, however, the first known ascetic going into the wilderness
(about A.D. 270–271), a geographical move that seems to have contributed to his renown. Accounts of Anthony enduring
supernatural temptation during his sojourn in the Libyan Desert inspired the often-repeated subject of the temptation of St. Anthony
in Western art and literature."


Wrong Saint Anthony.

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 Post subject: St. Anthony
PostPosted: 05 May 2012 12:57 am 
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Hmmmm, maybe that`s what "Anthony No Temptation..." means - not THAT St. Anthony.

There`s an Egyptian one and a Russian one? Which one is at Galamus?

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 Post subject: Re: Maguelonne
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Since, the sanctuary is thus also under the protection of Saint Anthony the Great, patron saints of hermits. Legend speaks of his temptations and his victory over the demonic traps that were placed on his road to salvation. As to the small pig that normally accompanies the saint, it symbolises evil that was conquered and converted into good.

As to the original grotto, in which the spring is located, this is under the protection of another saint… Mary Magdalene. Both Mary Magdalene and Saint Anthony are notorious hermits, and hence likely protectors for hermitages.
http://www.perillos.com/galamus.html

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 Post subject: Re: Maguelonne
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As to the original grotto, in which the spring is located, this is under the protection of another saint… Mary Magdalene. Both Mary Magdalene and Saint Anthony are notorious hermits, and hence likely protectors for hermitages.
http://www.perillos.com/galamus.html


And there are plenty of hermitages in that part of the country,

My personal favorite:

Galerie de photos sur Ermitage de Domanova - Seul vestige d'un village disparu : Crozes

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Good accoustics too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gKx0XzPmH0

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 Post subject: Re: St. Anthony
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Hmmmm, maybe that`s what "Anthony No Temptation..." means - not THAT St. Anthony.

There`s an Egyptian one and a Russian one? Which one is at Galamus?


Egyptian and Hungarian. The latter was the hermit of Galamus.

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 Post subject: Re: Maguelonne
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http://www.adolphus.nl/xus/antonfrancg.html


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 Post subject: Galamus
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Are there any photos of the interior of the hermitage of Galamus? Thank you for those. So

there were 2 St. Anthonys who were hermits? I know that there were hermits at Notre Dame de

Marceille also, hermits seem to work as guardians of these places. Was there really a SATOR square

on the head of Dagobert?

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This looks pretty old, and damaged?

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 Post subject: Anthony and Paul
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This St. Antoine is associated with St. Paul? Thank you for the link.

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 Post subject: Re: Maguelonne
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 Post subject: Re: Galamus
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Renne wrote:

Was there really a SATOR square on the head of Dagobert?

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This looks pretty old, and damaged?


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Stüblein, Pierres Gravées du Languedoc, pp. 186 and 187
http://jhaldezos.free.fr/elements_insolites/Pierre_gravees.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Maguelonne
PostPosted: 06 May 2012 7:44 am 
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From a previous conversation


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2325&p=51514#p51514
Roger:
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http://jhaldezos.free.fr/elements_insol ... ravees.pdf

For those of you (apparently the majority) who have never seen a full scan of the alleged Stublein work "Pierres Gravees du Languedoc", Patrick Mensior was kind enough to put a scan online along with a short commentary.

The thing that I find surprising is that there is no discussion of the fact that the very well known "carre magique" made by the words "SATOR, AREPO, TENET, OPERA, ROTAS" is represented on the alleged "Head of St Dagobert" with all the "Rs" rendered as "Ps". I also find it mildly odd that the alleged St Dagobert is the spittin' image of Colbert.


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Jean-Baptiste Colbert, detail of a bust by Antoine Coysevox, 1677; in the Louvre, Paris. (credit: Giraudon/Art Resource, New York)
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 Post subject: Wheel - Bugarach
PostPosted: 06 May 2012 11:17 pm 
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Here`s a Wheel of Fortune to go with the ship window with the Wheel of Fortune helm

in the church at Bugarach. Thank you for the Head of Dagobert with the Sator square,

is that face the front of the same figure? I`d say from the clues that the treasure of

Dagobert is in the Galamus area somewhere.

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 Post subject: Re: Galamus
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Are there any photos of the interior of the hermitage of Galamus?


Do an image search in Google using search terms "galamus hermitage" - there are a few good ones but they're on Flickr (can't copy image address and re-post as image here).

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 Post subject: Magic Squares
PostPosted: 09 May 2012 1:14 am 
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Magic squares in Hebrew read as prayers that can be used as talismans.

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 Post subject: Code?
PostPosted: 09 May 2012 1:17 am 
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I can see how this format could be utilized as a code.

TCP - I couldn`t find any Galamus hermitage interiors but I saw some beautiful renovated
monasteries in that area from the 12th and 13th centuries.

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Renovated monastery 12th c. in the Carcassonne region, what terrific stone arches.

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 Post subject: Re: Maguelonne
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Interior da gruta do eremitério de Santo Antônio de Galamus
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http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/62050544.jpg

Enlargement available at
http://v7.cache3.c.bigcache.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/62050544.jpg?redirect_counter=1

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 Post subject: St. Dagobert
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From the front.

Thank you for the color photograph. Where is the magic square located in the picture?

Is it carved from the living rock?

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 Post subject: Re: St. Dagobert
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Renne wrote:

Thank you for the color photograph. Where is the magic square located in the picture?

Is it carved from the living rock?


You're welcome. In the enlargement (position the cursor over the picture and click), the SATOR square is in the corner near the person with the turquoise top.

http://v7.cache3.c.bigcache.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/62050544.jpg?redirect_counter=1

As for the living rock, a good question.

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 Post subject: SATOR
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Here it is larger. It does look as if the carvings on the right side are carved from the cave.

Is the head on the SATOR square said to be Dagobert? I think maybe it portrays him after he was slain.

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 Post subject: Galamus
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Thanks to Roscoe for this. It must have been a difficult trek to get to Galamus

in ancient times.

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 Post subject: Re: Galamus
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Thanks to Roscoe for this.


Revelation, 11.1:
Et datus est mihi calamus similis virgae dicens surge et metire templum Dei et altare et adorantes in eo.

And there was given me a reed like unto a rod, and the Angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the Temple of God, and the Altar, and them that worship therein.

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 Post subject: Re: Maguelonne
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