Maguelonne

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6957

I presume that people are aware that it is now known that Saunière used an address 12 Rue de la Juiverie, Lyon to have letters sent to that he didn't want sent to Rennes le Chateau. One letter was from someone known as Montepellierain The subject of these letters is Maguelonne, an island off the coast of Montpellier. This place has been regarded as the Southern Mont St Michel.

The name may well be a corruption of Magdalene (or vice versa) and is associated with the cult of Isis.

The island with the church

And here's one for Sheila

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Abbot Suger of Saint-Denis who visited the site in the twelfth century described it as

“A narrow island, uninhabited but for the bishop, his priests and a small retinue. It is simple, isolated and impoverished but well fortified against the attacks of the Saracens, who do not cease to infest the seas.”

The we have this at nearby Montpellier:

Notre Dame de Tables

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The Notre-Dame des Tables is a church - basilica located in the heart of Montpellier , College Street, it is intimately linked to the history of the city of Montpellier. This church is the mother church of Montpellier and the town is under his patronage and that of St. Roch . Embellished and transformed the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries , the building was rebuilt twice during the Wars of Religion: from 1560 to 1622 , the religious crisis that has shaken Montpellier leads Notre Dame in a series of disasters. Assigned to the reformed religion as the "Temple of the Lodge" in 1561 - The Temple of the l'Ordre de Chevaliers Maçons Élus Coëns de l'Univers founded by Martinez de Pasqually. This doctrine, Pasqually intended for an elite chosen from the ranks of his contemporary masons, and gathered under the banner of the 'Elus Coens' (Elect Priests). Quickly this order gained quite the reputation in French masonic circles, but the theurgic operations remained reserved for the higher degrees. Martinez did not, to a greater extent, graft his system solely on freemasonry. Until 1761, it is to be located in Montpellier, Paris, Lyon, Bordeaux, Marseille, and Avignon. In 1761 he built a special temple in Avignon, where Pasqually resided himself until 1766. At that time, the Order of the Elect Coens is worked as a high-degree system superimposed on the Blue Lodges: The first class has three symbolic degrees, and that of 'maître parfait élu', then the grades Coens proper: apprentice Coën, fellowcraft Coën, and master Coën, Grand Master Coën or Grand Architect, Chevalier d'Orient or Knight Zorobabel, Commandeur d'Orient or Commander Zorobabel, and finally the last degree, the supreme consecration of Reaux Croix. In 1768, Jean-Baptiste Willermoz is ordained Reau-Croix by Bacon Chivalerie.

Louis-Claude de Saint-Martin commenced the system in 1765, risen quicly to Commander of the Orient. The years 1769 and 1770 saw the Coen-groups multiply extensively in France. In 1772, Saint-Martin was ordained Reau-Croix.

Louis Claude de Saint Martin later formed the Martinists. We know that Saunière was an honoured guest at a Martinist meeting in Lyon.

L'Ordre de Chevalier Bienfaisant de la Cité Sainte

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The Rite Ecossais Rectifie (Scottish Rectified Rite) is the oldest continuously extant chivalric Masonic Order in the world. In the United States it is known by the name of its pinnacle degree. It was originally an offshoot of Baron von Hund's Rite of Strict Observance. RER works the following system of degrees:
4° Maître Ecossais/Scottish Master
4.5° Perfect Master of St. Andrew (Worked at the same time as 4° Scottish Master)
5° Ecuyer Novice/Squire Novice
6° Chevalier Bienfaisant de la Cité Sainte/Knight Beneficient of the Holy City
7° Chevalier-Profès/Professed Knight (Believed to be a Chair Degree)
8° Chevalier-Grand Profès/Grand Professed Knight (Believed to be a Chair Degree)

The governing bodies of the RER are called Great Priories. There is only one governing body in the United States, the Great Priory of America, which was founded in 1934 at Raleigh, N.C., by Dr. William Moseley Brown and J. Raymond Shute II. Under agreement with the Great Priory of Switzerland, membership is limited to 81, divided into three Prefectures limited to 27 members each, and is further limited to no more than two members from each state, with the understanding that some states will never be able to provide even a single candidate for the rite. In England, the Order is governed by the Knights Templar. It is important to observe with caution that there are several other groups of CBCS and other Martinist Orders with different histories and lineages: Some of them are outside of Masonry entirely, and some of them admit women.

The Masonic RER, much like the Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite, is empowered to work the Craft Degrees (EA, FC, and MM), but in the United States and Europe they choose not to do so, ceding this privilege to the authority of the Grand Lodge system which works the York Rite version of the first three degrees. In several other countries, RER works these degrees directly, and they differ from the York Rite version in that they derive from a source that predates the de-Christianization of the Craft which took place throughout most English speaking systems of Freemasonry to accomodate a truly Universal Fraternity.

Great Priory of Switzerland - In Sion Switzerland.

Sheila · **Posted:** 20 Feb 2012 10:04 am

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We know that Saunière was an honoured guest at a Martinist meeting in Lyon.

...are we absolutely sure which Saunière this refers to ?

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1807

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I presume that people are aware that it is now known that Saunière used an address 12 Rue de la Juiverie, Lyon

not heard that before Roscoe, where did you get the info and has it been verified? I tend to disbelieve 90% of anyhthing regarding Sauniere until I see proper proof. Much of it is hearsay that has somehow got turned into "fact"

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6957

Sheila wrote:

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We know that Saunière was an honoured guest at a Martinist meeting in Lyon.

...are we absolutely sure which Saunière this refers to ?

Huh! can we be sure of anything associated with Saunière?

However

Contact with Martinist circles:
Three Lyon booksellers specialising in esoteric subjects, including two strongly connected with Martinism: Derain and Bouchet. Remember that Derain purchased part of Saunière’s library from Marie Denarnaud.

These books were labelled:

"François Béranger Saunière, Priest at: Aude, town of Rennes." That nails it in my opinion.

These works were entitled:
1) "the Prophecy of the Popes allotted to S. Malachy". By Joseph Main.
2) "History of the Large Forests of Gaule and Old France". By L.F. Alfred Maury. (See Sacred Groves)
3) "Celtic Monuments. Or Research on the Worship of the Stones. Preceded by a note on the Celts and Druids, and followed Celtic etymologies ". By Mr. Camby.

Saunière knew a Martinist goldsmith called Beau.

Joanny Bricaud was a prominent Martinist who lived near the location where we know mail addressed to Saunière in Lyon was delivered.

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Jean (or Joanny) Bricaud (February 11, 1881, Neuville-sur-Ain, Ain – February 24, 1934), also known as Tau Jean II, was a French student of the occult and esoteric matters. Bricaud was heavily involved in the French neo-Gnostic movement. He was consecrated a Gnostic bishop on July 21, 1913 by bishop Louis-Marie-François Giraud.[1] He was the Patriarch of the l'Église Gnostique Universelle (French for "Universal Gnostic Church") and a central figure in the various lines of the apostolic succession of subsequent Gnostic Churches, as well as a spiritual heir of Jules Doinel (Valentinus II). From 1916 he was head of the L'Ordre Martiniste.

Saunière used this Lyon address to make enquiries with Parisian 'highly specialised' shops.

This address was two doors away from Bricaud's

We know he hired a vehicle in Lyon.

Emma Calve was a Superior Inconnu in the Martinist movement.

The question is why was Saunière interested in Maguelonne?

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6957

Ecclesia Catholica Gnostica

by Joanny Bricaud

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The Gnostic Church is primarily designed to restore humanity to its primitive religious unity, that is to say, by making him reject errors where outputs are different religions, to establish and spread a Religion consistent with the universal tradition and thus truly Catholic.
The Gnostic Church pretends not to impose attitudes or by the force of power, civil or military, nor with vain threats of punishment beyond the grave, nor by false promises of future rewards.
Based on the one hand, the universal tradition (of all civilized people) and not just the Hebrew tradition of the Bible, and the other on the philosophy and modern science, its truths do not show as objects (the faith, but as objects of philosophical and scientific demonstration, and it appeals only to reason, which is the same in all men.
The Gnostic Church is broad and tolerant. It respects the customs and laws of all nations, allowing it to accept all people, of all nationalities, all languages, all races, born and raised in any religion.
It urges its followers that in all circumstances of life, they mutually support each other and treat each other as brothers.
The Gnostic Church is divided into two sections Section exoteric and esoteric section.
The latter aims to give members of the section Initiation exoteric gnostic.
Only members of the exoteric section shall be received and under certain conditions.

http://www.parareligion.ch/doct.pdf

Joanny Bricaud, lived two doors away from where Saunière had his letters delivered to in Lyon.

BULLDOGNIC · **Joined:** 24 Apr 2008 2:43 pm **Posts:** 1873

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Huh! can we be sure of anything associated with Saunière?

However

Contact with Martinist circles:
Three Lyon booksellers specialising in esoteric subjects, including two strongly connected with Martinism: Derain and Bouchet. Remember that Derain purchased part of Saunière’s library from Marie Denarnaud.

These books were labelled:

"François Béranger Saunière, Priest at: Aude, town of Rennes." That nails it in my opinion.

These works were entitled:
1) "the Prophecy of the Popes allotted to S. Malachy". By Joseph Main.
2) "History of the Large Forests of Gaule and Old France". By L.F. Alfred Maury. (See Sacred Groves)
3) "Celtic Monuments. Or Research on the Worship of the Stones. Preceded by a note on the Celts and Druids, and followed Celtic etymologies ". By Mr. Camby.

As we all know, people can quite easily add Sauniere's details to all sorts of things, as shown below from :-
http://www.benhammott.com/serres-church-2.html

Do you have any more details on the labelling of the books purchased by Derian Roscoe?
Regards
Nic

lovuian · **Posted:** 21 Feb 2012 1:23 am

roscoe wrote:

Sheila wrote:

Quote:

We know that Saunière was an honoured guest at a Martinist meeting in Lyon.

...are we absolutely sure which Saunière this refers to ?

Huh! can we be sure of anything associated with Saunière?

However

Contact with Martinist circles:
Three Lyon booksellers specialising in esoteric subjects, including two strongly connected with Martinism: Derain and Bouchet. Remember that Derain purchased part of Saunière’s library from Marie Denarnaud.

These books were labelled:

"François Béranger Saunière, Priest at: Aude, town of Rennes." That nails it in my opinion.

These works were entitled:
1) "the Prophecy of the Popes allotted to S. Malachy". By Joseph Main.
2) "History of the Large Forests of Gaule and Old France". By L.F. Alfred Maury. (See Sacred Groves)
3) "Celtic Monuments. Or Research on the Worship of the Stones. Preceded by a note on the Celts and Druids, and followed Celtic etymologies ". By Mr. Camby.

Saunière knew a Martinist goldsmith called Beau.

Joanny Bricaud was a prominent Martinist who lived near the location where we know mail addressed to Saunière in Lyon was delivered.

Quote:

Jean (or Joanny) Bricaud (February 11, 1881, Neuville-sur-Ain, Ain – February 24, 1934), also known as Tau Jean II, was a French student of the occult and esoteric matters. Bricaud was heavily involved in the French neo-Gnostic movement. He was consecrated a Gnostic bishop on July 21, 1913 by bishop Louis-Marie-François Giraud.[1] He was the Patriarch of the l'Église Gnostique Universelle (French for "Universal Gnostic Church") and a central figure in the various lines of the apostolic succession of subsequent Gnostic Churches, as well as a spiritual heir of Jules Doinel (Valentinus II). From 1916 he was head of the L'Ordre Martiniste.

Saunière used this Lyon address to make enquiries with Parisian 'highly specialised' shops.

This address was two doors away from Bricaud's

We know he hired a vehicle in Lyon.

Emma Calve was a Superior Inconnu in the Martinist movement.

The question is why was Saunière interested in Maguelonne?

the Prophecy of the Popes allotted to S. Malachy". By Joseph Main. raised my eyebrows :shock:

I had no idea Sauniere was interested in that

St. Malachy. According to his biographer, St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his book “Life of Saint Malachy,” St. Malachy was known to have the gift of prophecy and even predicted the exact day and hour of his own death. St. Malachy was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III.

According to his biographer, St. Malachy was visiting Rome in 1139 when he went into a trance and received a vision. Malachy wrote down this extraordinary vision in which he claims to have foreseen all of the popes from the death of Innocent II until the destruction of the church and the return of Christ. He named exactly 112 popes from that time until the end.

He then gave the manuscript to Pope Innocent II and it was deposited in the Vatican Archives where it was forgotten for several centuries. Then in 1590, it was rediscovered and published.

Pope John Paul II was aware of these prophecies and at least once referred to them with concern.

According to St. Malachy, there will only be two more popes.

The prophecy concerning the 111th pope says of him, “Gloria Olivae,” which means “the glory of the Olive.” We have Pope Benedict

the last one is Peter the Roman
Ratzinger is growing weaker each day
the next in line is Cardinal Betrone who is being accused of great corruption
Tarciso Peitro Romano
he is chief adminstrator
He is Cardinal Chief of state and Carmelengo
He Secretary for the Congregation of the Faith
He was born in Romano Canavese Piedmont

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6957

BULLDOGNIC wrote:

Quote:

Huh! can we be sure of anything associated with Saunière?

However

Contact with Martinist circles:
Three Lyon booksellers specialising in esoteric subjects, including two strongly connected with Martinism: Derain and Bouchet. Remember that Derain purchased part of Saunière’s library from Marie Denarnaud.

These books were labelled:

"François Béranger Saunière, Priest at: Aude, town of Rennes." That nails it in my opinion.

These works were entitled:
1) "the Prophecy of the Popes allotted to S. Malachy". By Joseph Main.
2) "History of the Large Forests of Gaule and Old France". By L.F. Alfred Maury. (See Sacred Groves)
3) "Celtic Monuments. Or Research on the Worship of the Stones. Preceded by a note on the Celts and Druids, and followed Celtic etymologies ". By Mr. Camby.

As we all know, people can quite easily add Sauniere's details to all sorts of things, as shown below from :-
http://www.benhammott.com/serres-church-2.html

Do you have any more details on the labelling of the books purchased by Derian Roscoe?
Regards
Nic

Yes it can't possibly be true because it wasn't discovered by Isaac Ben Jacob.

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6957

lovuian wrote:

roscoe wrote:

Huh! can we be sure of anything associated with Saunière?

However

Contact with Martinist circles:
Three Lyon booksellers specialising in esoteric subjects, including two strongly connected with Martinism: Derain and Bouchet. Remember that Derain purchased part of Saunière’s library from Marie Denarnaud.

These books were labelled:

"François Béranger Saunière, Priest at: Aude, town of Rennes." That nails it in my opinion.

These works were entitled:
1) "the Prophecy of the Popes allotted to S. Malachy". By Joseph Main.
2) "History of the Large Forests of Gaule and Old France". By L.F. Alfred Maury. (See Sacred Groves)
3) "Celtic Monuments. Or Research on the Worship of the Stones. Preceded by a note on the Celts and Druids, and followed Celtic etymologies ". By Mr. Camby.

The question is why was Saunière interested in Maguelonne?

the Prophecy of the Popes allotted to S. Malachy". By Joseph Main. raised my eyebrows :shock:

I had no idea Sauniere was interested in that

St. Malachy. According to his biographer, St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his book “Life of Saint Malachy,” St. Malachy was known to have the gift of prophecy and even predicted the exact day and hour of his own death. St. Malachy was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III.

According to his biographer, St. Malachy was visiting Rome in 1139 when he went into a trance and received a vision. Malachy wrote down this extraordinary vision in which he claims to have foreseen all of the popes from the death of Innocent II until the destruction of the church and the return of Christ. He named exactly 112 popes from that time until the end.

He then gave the manuscript to Pope Innocent II and it was deposited in the Vatican Archives where it was forgotten for several centuries. Then in 1590, it was rediscovered and published.

Pope John Paul II was aware of these prophecies and at least once referred to them with concern.

According to St. Malachy, there will only be two more popes.

The prophecy concerning the 111th pope says of him, “Gloria Olivae,” which means “the glory of the Olive.” We have Pope Benedict

the last one is Peter the Roman
Ratzinger is growing weaker each day
the next in line is Cardinal Betrone who is being accused of great corruption
Tarciso Peitro Romano
he is chief adminstrator
He is Cardinal Chief of state and Carmelengo
He Secretary for the Congregation of the Faith
He was born in Romano Canavese Piedmont

It's probably all part of a plan anyway. Remember that the Christian Age of Pisces is coming to an end (in France it already has)

The question is why was Saunière interested in Maguelonne?

It's about 15km along the coast from Saintes Maries de la Mer and the mouth of the Rhone and Saunière wrote about a Stupid fisherman at the mouth of the Rhone. Did The Magdalene land at Maguelonne first.

Still looking at this but it seems that this was first a centre for the Cult of Isis.

Sheila · **Posted:** 21 Feb 2012 8:08 am

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Saunière wrote about a Stupid fisherman at the mouth of the Rhone

oh really...so who put the accent on pêcheur hmm ?

....i see not accents, and i see no fisherman.

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6957

Sheila wrote:

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Saunière wrote about a Stupid fisherman at the mouth of the Rhone

oh really...so who put the accent on pêcheur hmm ?

....i see not accents, and i see no fisherman.

Well no but it was from code unlike this:

Which CLEARLY and CONCISELY shows the word

SECRET

of course one can always shoe horn ones idea into a truism by changing the FACTS. There's a lot of it about on here but hey things are looking up, he's moving off to his own forum and fingers crossed he'll take all his OCD victims with him.

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1807

is this the SECRET that some have said is an abbreviation of SECRETary?

Sheila · **Posted:** 21 Feb 2012 11:11 am

hello boys, one thing at a time... Roscoe, would you be so kind as to address or at least consider what i said, i don't regurgitate... i question.

.....and the E in question has no accent , so don't put a "ê" in place when a "é" will do just as well..... which BTW, changes the whole meaning of the supposed sentence.

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1807

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i don't regurgitate... i question.

good position :wink:

BULLDOGNIC · **Joined:** 24 Apr 2008 2:43 pm **Posts:** 1873

Sorry to intervene the thread people but I need to get something off my chest.
Roscoe, why on my last two posts have your replies been :-

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Yes it can't possibly be true because it wasn't discovered by Isaac Ben Jacob.

and

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Notre Dame d'Hautpoul - Reine de Lumiere - The White Lady of Legends

40kms north of Carcassonne.

The Cathar redoubt was all but levelled by the unstoppable Simon de Montfort in 1212.

But you don't want to know about the Cathars as Isaac Ben Jacob doesn't mention them.

Why do you seem to think I have some kind of link to Isaac Ben Jacob ? I don't know the guy and I don't think I've even had a discussion with him here on the forum. Yes I find some of his research interesting, as I do with yourself, however I most certainly do not blanket agree with all of his theories ( Crista related and some others ). Please bear this in mind when replying to me, as I was actually trying to continue the topic thread that you were discussing.
Regards
Nic

lovuian · **Posted:** 22 Feb 2012 2:10 am

roscoe wrote:

lovuian wrote:

roscoe wrote:

Huh! can we be sure of anything associated with Saunière?

However

Contact with Martinist circles:
Three Lyon booksellers specialising in esoteric subjects, including two strongly connected with Martinism: Derain and Bouchet. Remember that Derain purchased part of Saunière’s library from Marie Denarnaud.

These books were labelled:

"François Béranger Saunière, Priest at: Aude, town of Rennes." That nails it in my opinion.

These works were entitled:
1) "the Prophecy of the Popes allotted to S. Malachy". By Joseph Main.
2) "History of the Large Forests of Gaule and Old France". By L.F. Alfred Maury. (See Sacred Groves)
3) "Celtic Monuments. Or Research on the Worship of the Stones. Preceded by a note on the Celts and Druids, and followed Celtic etymologies ". By Mr. Camby.

The question is why was Saunière interested in Maguelonne?

the Prophecy of the Popes allotted to S. Malachy". By Joseph Main. raised my eyebrows :shock:

I had no idea Sauniere was interested in that

St. Malachy. According to his biographer, St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his book “Life of Saint Malachy,” St. Malachy was known to have the gift of prophecy and even predicted the exact day and hour of his own death. St. Malachy was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III.

According to his biographer, St. Malachy was visiting Rome in 1139 when he went into a trance and received a vision. Malachy wrote down this extraordinary vision in which he claims to have foreseen all of the popes from the death of Innocent II until the destruction of the church and the return of Christ. He named exactly 112 popes from that time until the end.

He then gave the manuscript to Pope Innocent II and it was deposited in the Vatican Archives where it was forgotten for several centuries. Then in 1590, it was rediscovered and published.

Pope John Paul II was aware of these prophecies and at least once referred to them with concern.

According to St. Malachy, there will only be two more popes.

The prophecy concerning the 111th pope says of him, “Gloria Olivae,” which means “the glory of the Olive.” We have Pope Benedict

the last one is Peter the Roman
Ratzinger is growing weaker each day
the next in line is Cardinal Betrone who is being accused of great corruption
Tarciso Peitro Romano
he is chief adminstrator
He is Cardinal Chief of state and Carmelengo
He Secretary for the Congregation of the Faith
He was born in Romano Canavese Piedmont

It's probably all part of a plan anyway. Remember that the Christian Age of Pisces is coming to an end (in France it already has)

The question is why was Saunière interested in Maguelonne?

It's about 15km along the coast from Saintes Maries de la Mer and the mouth of the Rhone and Saunière wrote about a Stupid fisherman at the mouth of the Rhone. Did The Magdalene land at Maguelonne first.

Still looking at this but it seems that this was first a centre for the Cult of Isis.

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6957

Davinho wrote:

is this the SECRET that some have said is an abbreviation of SECRETary?

Yes well some have said this because they have a need to change the FACTS. Their THEORY doesn't fit the FACTS you see so they change the FACTS.

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6957

Sheila wrote:

hello boys, one thing at a time... Roscoe, would you be so kind as to address or at least consider what i said, i don't regurgitate... i question.

IS that the reason whu you refuse to look at anything Plantard or Lincoln comes up with. It don't look like you questioning tae me. It looks like you ignoring.

Sheila wrote:

.....and the E in question has no accent , so don't put a "ê" in place when a "é" will do just as well..... which BTW, changes the whole meaning of the supposed sentence.

Hmm! Changes the whole thread too.

The title of the thread being Maguelonne.

Which you appear to have ignored rather than question, despite what you said.

lovuian · **Posted:** 22 Feb 2012 4:56 am

Sorry I'm having trouble with the forum where I have written two times and got blown off
Sheesh :roll:

on Leo the XIII
the comets reflect the Pecci family heraldry of comets

Nostradamus
During the appearance of the bearded star.
The three great princes will be made enemies:
Struck from the sky, peace earth quaking,
Po, Tiber overflowing, serpent placed upon the shore.

Pope Leo XIII is given the motto 'Lumen in Caelo' by the prophet Malachy, and on his coat of arms was comet (estoille chevelue). He is also referred to as this in VI. 6 by Nostradamus. During Leo XIII's reign the Triple Alliance (three great princes) was formed in 1881 by Germany, Austria and Italy against France. The fact that peace was disturbed is probably a reference to the. Triple Entente, which ultimately led to the First World War. The snake which constricted the French leaders was that of the Triple Alliance.
http://magazine2012.com/web/Quatrains/tabid/59/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/170/43_The_Earth_and_Peace_Shattered.aspx

Leo XIII was going to move to Austria to live but the Hasburgs declined the invitation
Leo XIII also made the Pope ...God Almighty on Earth

In 1895 an article from the Catholic National said this:

The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, Himself, hidden under the veil of flesh.ii

Pope Leo XIII said this about the role of the Pope:

We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.

1794 End of the 18th century. The French Revolution has begun. The thief Barras steals by force the cases, the precious jewels and the valuables surrounding the relics. The Spoliation of the relics of Ste Mary Magdalene in the spring 1794. Joseph Bastide, sacristan of St. Maximin removed from desecration the skull of St. Mary Magdalen along with the holy glass sphere (containing earth soaked with the blood of Our Most Holy Lord Jesus Christ collected by St Mary Magdalene at the foot of the cross). Some other pious people were able to save other parts of the relics. A significant portion of the tibia of the right leg and a lock of the Hair of St. Mary Magdalene will be saved by Madame Ricard who will leave St Maximin for fear of being denounced and pursued. She will flee to Bonnieux and stay with the Anselme family. The relics remained in the hands of the head of the household, Joseph-Hyacinthe-Philippe d’Anselmo and father of Louis-Victor d’Anselme and Marie-Marguerite-Félicité d’Anselme who married Jean-Baptiste Terris on April 13th, 1804. From this marriage was born the last of 11 children on January 20, 1804 who was to become the bishop of Frejus and who was handed the relics of St Mary Magdalene which had been kept by Madame Ricard.

1878 Bishop Terris offers pope Leo XIII a fragment of these relics along with some of St. Mary Magdalene’s hair.

1884 Bishop Terris bequeathed to the diocese of Frejus the relics of St Mary Magdalene (the lower part of the tibia from the right leg and a lock of hair), along with the reliquary which contains them to be kept as much as possible in the grotto of La Ste Baume near Nans [southern France].

http://www.ewtn.com/library/chistory/relicsmarmagdal.HTM

Maguelonne (or Maguelon) was one of the "seven cities" that may have been the origin of the name for the region called Septimania.
The seven cities were today's Elne, Agde, Narbonne, Lodève, Béziers, Nîmes and Maguelone.

Guilhem V de Montpellier brought with him two notable items. The relics of Cleopas, a disciple of the Road to Emmaus and a black Madonna which he donated to the church of Notre-Dame.
http://artsymbol.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/montpellier-notre-dame-des-tables/

it seems that Maguelonne was a temple for Vestal Virgins

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1807

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Yes well some have said this because they have a need to change the FACTS. Their THEORY doesn't fit the FACTS you see so they change the FACTS.

sorry Roscoe but as far as I'm concerned it's all theory

Sheila · **Posted:** 22 Feb 2012 9:12 am

Roscoe wrote:

It's about 15km along the coast from Saintes Maries de la Mer and the mouth of the Rhone and Saunière wrote about a Stupid fisherman at the mouth of the Rhone. Did The Magdalene land at Maguelonne first.

Sheila wrote:

.....and the E in question has no accent , so don't put a "ê" in place when a "é" will do just as well..... which BTW, changes the whole meaning of the supposed sentence.

you really do take the biscuit Roscoe...you steasfastly refuse to move on....who says there ever was a "stupid fisherman" ...?

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6957

Sheila wrote:

Roscoe wrote:

It's about 15km along the coast from Saintes Maries de la Mer and the mouth of the Rhone and Saunière wrote about a Stupid fisherman at the mouth of the Rhone. Did The Magdalene land at Maguelonne first.

Sheila wrote:

.....and the E in question has no accent , so don't put a "ê" in place when a "é" will do just as well..... which BTW, changes the whole meaning of the supposed sentence.

you really do take the biscuit Roscoe...you steasfastly refuse to move on....who says there ever was a "stupid fisherman" ...?

Raven

But l'embouchure du Rhone is l'embouchure du Rhone which was my point in the first place.

Bouche du Rhone

Just down from Avignon where the Stupid Fishermen were for a short while.

One of St Peter's crowd, he wasn't at Avignon. Remind me again what St Peter did before he became a groupie?

Tell me something, have you actually been outside of your gate there in France?

Sheila · **Posted:** 22 Feb 2012 12:17 pm

you are such a prat dear boy.

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6957

Sheila wrote:

you are such a prat dear boy.

Me and Raven it seems.

oh and Henry Buthion

But he lived in Rennes le Chateau, what does he know? Villa Bethania actually :wink:

Sheila · **Posted:** 22 Feb 2012 2:08 pm

Sheila wrote:

.....and the E in question has no accent , so don't put a "ê" in place when a "é" will do just as well..... which BTW, changes the whole meaning of the supposed sentence.

Exactly what i said, you don't seem to understand plain English let alone French.

There are no accents...got it.

If the E was meant to be read with an accent "ê", fair enough we have a fisherman...but if the non-visible accent was meant to be a "é" then it changes the meaning completely.......and just because you see the word "poisson" as in "fish" it doesn't make the person a fisherman...i'll leave you to go figure rather than believing everything you read, written by other people regurgitating what they have read ad infinitum...

do you understand what i'm saying or not !

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