PAX 681

Sheila · **Posted:** 14 May 2012 5:59 am

That dear boy is a bog-standard benchmark.

paddy · **Joined:** 01 Sep 2010 7:28 pm **Posts:** 165

Sheila wrote:

“A cross is here represented with the letters PAX at the angles”?

Guillaume de Guileville, Le Pèlerinage de l’homme. (See Wayward's first post on this thread, page 1.)

http://archive.org/stream/arsquatuorcoron02unkngoog#page/n52/mode/2up

Paddy

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6961

Sheila wrote:

That dear boy is a bog-standard benchmark.

What? On the Super Mario Brothers clip of the World Trade Centre? appears at 0.04. With the comment
"Those guys will do anything for publicity"

Yep! Hidden in full view. They've been there for years and this has been planned for years. Why do you think the Templars were on Hackney Wick? You just got used to it. But those in the know realise how to read this. All part of social engineering by the TAVISTOCK INSTITUTE. You're expected to treat this with disdain, T.H.E.Y. know how your LEFT brain works.

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The ideology of American foundations was created by the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations in London. In 1921, the Duke of Bedford, Marquess of Tavistock, the 11th Duke, gave a building to the Institute to study the effect of shellshock on British soldiers who survived World War I. Its purpose was to establish the "breaking point" of men under stress, under the direction of the British Army Bureau of Psychological Warfare, commanded by Sir John Rawlings-Reese.

The Duke of Bedford family seat is Woburn Abbey, Bedfordshire. The private mausoleum and chapel of the Russell Family and the Dukes of Bedford is at St. Michael’s Church in Chenies, Buckinghamshire.

Russell Family = Illuminati

St Michael's Church, Chenies, Buckinghamshire or Tour Magdala?

See Sir John Rawlings-Reese and the men behind Hitler - http://www.toolan.com/hitler/phoenix.html

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Especially since the last world war we have done much to infiltrate the various social organisations throughout the country, and in their work and in their point of view one can see clearly how the principles for which this society and others stood in the past have become accepted as part of the ordinary working plan of these various bodies. That is as it should be, and while we can take heart from this we must be healthily discontented and realise that there is still more work to be done along this line. Similarly we have made a useful attack upon a number of professions. The two easiest of them naturally are the teaching profession and the Church: the two most difficult are law and medicine...

If we are to infiltrate the professional and social activities of other people I think we must imitate the Totalitarians and organise some kind of fifth column activity!

John Rawlings Rees M.D.
Address to the Annual Meeting of the National Council for Mental Hygiene June 18th 1940

So bog standard means you've been socially engineered to get used to seeing it, but to Solis Sacerdotibus it means something.

In Sauniere's chapel
Jacob and THE GATE OF HEAVEN
TERRIBILIS EST LOCUS ISTE

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In Jacob’s dream, he has seen the opening between dimensions, normally only accessible to angels and prophets. According to Christian mystics and Gnostics, this Gate is available to all serious initiates. This ladder between the mundane and the heavenly realms is developed by practicing the ancient work of inner alchemy. As in Egyptian, Taoist, Vedic, Buddhist and Christian esoteric knowledge, one extends one’s sphere of possibilities with conscious breath work, meditation and using sacred sounds to vibrate and awaken the inner cauldrons of power, or energy centers.

Patrice Chaplin - City of Secrets

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To freemasons the personage of Hiram Abiff is venerated, several theories as to the identity of Hiram Abiff abound however the name probably came from a westernised corruption of the Arabic Haram Al-Sharif which is the Arabic name for the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the former site of Solomon’s Temple and even the Hebrew name for the Temple Har haBayit has some similarity and both these mean ‘The Noble Sanctuary’. It carries the phrase written in Latin:

‘This is the house of God and these are the gates of heaven.’

Over the door of Sauniere's church.

T.H.E.Y. are going to attempt to open the gate with the ritual sacrifice of 100,000 people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QHvyFP7Wjo

You need to read Occult Theocrasy.

Of course you will think that this is all nonsense because it wont happen based on the premise that it hasn't happened before.

rain · **Posted:** 14 May 2012 7:56 am

paddy wrote:

Sheila wrote:

“A cross is here represented with the letters PAX at the angles”?

Guillaume de Guileville, Le Pèlerinage de l’homme. (See Wayward's first post on this thread, page 1.)

http://archive.org/stream/arsquatuorcoron02unkngoog#page/n52/mode/2up

Paddy

Thanks Paddy that's what I thought he meant but I wasn't sure why he thinks that. Have I missed something.

jlockest · **Joined:** 13 Aug 2010 5:37 pm **Posts:** 994

roscoe wrote:

Sheila wrote:

That dear boy is a bog-standard benchmark.

What? On the ........... appears at 0.04. With the comment
"Those guys will do anything for publicity"

.........

Yep! Hidden in full view. They've been there for years and this has been planned for years. Why do you think the Templars were on Hackney Wick? You just got used to it. But those in the know realise how to read this. All part of social engineering by the TAVISTOCK INSTITUTE. You're expected to treat this with disdain, T.H.E.Y. know how your LEFT brain works.

Quote:

The ideology of American foundations was created by the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations in London. In 1921, the Duke of Bedford, Marquess of Tavistock, the 11th Duke, gave a building to the Institute to study the effect of shellshock on British soldiers who survived World War I. Its purpose was to establish the "breaking point" of men under stress, under the direction of the British Army Bureau of Psychological Warfare, commanded by Sir John Rawlings-Reese.

The Duke of Bedford family seat is Woburn Abbey, Bedfordshire. The private mausoleum and chapel of the Russell Family and the Dukes of Bedford is at St. Michael’s Church in Chenies, Buckinghamshire.

.....
St Michael's Church, Chenies, Buckinghamshire or Tour Magdala?

See Sir John Rawlings-Reese and the men behind Hitler - http://www.toolan.com/hitler/phoenix.html

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Especially since the last world war we have done much to infiltrate the various social organisations throughout the country, and in their work and in their point of view one can see clearly how the principles for which this society and others stood in the past have become accepted as part of the ordinary working plan of these various bodies. That is as it should be, and while we can take heart from this we must be healthily discontented and realise that there is still more work to be done along this line. Similarly we have made a useful attack upon a number of professions. The two easiest of them naturally are the teaching profession and the Church: the two most difficult are law and medicine...

If we are to infiltrate the professional and social activities of other people I think we must imitate the Totalitarians and organise some kind of fifth column activity!

John Rawlings Rees M.D.
Address to the Annual Meeting of the National Council for Mental Hygiene June 18th 1940

So bog standard means you've been socially engineered to get used to seeing it, but to Solis Sacerdotibus it means something.

.....
In Sauniere's chapel
Jacob and THE GATE OF HEAVEN
TERRIBILIS EST LOCUS ISTE

Quote:

In Jacob’s dream, he has seen the opening between dimensions, normally only accessible to angels and prophets. According to Christian mystics and Gnostics, this Gate is available to all serious initiates. This ladder between the mundane and the heavenly realms is developed by practicing the ancient work of inner alchemy. As in Egyptian, Taoist, Vedic, Buddhist and Christian esoteric knowledge, one extends one’s sphere of possibilities with conscious breath work, meditation and using sacred sounds to vibrate and awaken the inner cauldrons of power, or energy centers.

Patrice Chaplin - City of Secrets

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To freemasons the personage of Hiram Abiff is venerated, several theories as to the identity of Hiram Abiff abound however the name probably came from a westernised corruption of the Arabic Haram Al-Sharif which is the Arabic name for the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the former site of Solomon’s Temple and even the Hebrew name for the Temple Har haBayit has some similarity and both these mean ‘The Noble Sanctuary’. It carries the phrase written in Latin:

‘This is the house of God and these are the gates of heaven.’

Over the door of Sauniere's church.

T.H.E.Y. are going to attempt to open the gate with the ritual sacrifice of 100,000 people.

...

You need to read Occult Theocrasy.

Of course you will think that this is all nonsense because it wont happen based on the premise that it hasn't happened before.

Roscoe,
I don't think it can't happen, but I get lost as to who the good and the bad guys are in all this.
You're saying that the Templars had a preceptory on Hackney Wick, because it was part of a plan to create havoc at the Olympics in 2012? IE they bought land (or had land given to them) 600 years before the modern Olympic movement started? So someone started the Olympic movement as part of the conspiracy and also London was awarded the games in a rigged vote? Doesn't that mean that someone needed a crystal ball back in the 13th/14th Century - or is everything planned and inescapable?

Was Sauniere then trying to warn the world or part of the conspiracy - as I presume the Templars and the Masons are the bad guys? The Royal families and nobles are all also in on it?

Who isn't part of the conspiracy?

wayward · **Posted:** 14 May 2012 10:14 am

paddy wrote:

“A cross is here represented with the letters PAX at the angles”?

Guillaume de Guileville, Le Pèlerinage de l’homme. (See Wayward's first post on this thread, page 1.)

http://archive.org/stream/arsquatuorcoron02unkngoog#page/n52/mode/2up

Paddy

Thanks for posting that paddy, I had been looking for a copy of the actual woodcut.---Bill

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

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And thousands of plastic body coffins currently transported all over the US highways

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The black polypropylene products purported to be coffins are grave liners, or burial vaults, manufactured by Convington, Ga.-based Vantage Products. (In this case, they are examples of the company's Standard Air Seal model.) The use of a burial vault, which prevents the collapse of cemetery ground and protects the casket, is a common requirement when a body is interred.

The filmed lot in Madison, Ga., is a Vantage storage facility. Of the 900,000 or so in-ground burials in the U.S. each year, a small percentage of those people prearranged their own caskets and vaults--which Vanguard holds at the storage facility until the appropriate time. According to company Vice President of Operations Michael Lacey, there are approximately 50,000 vaults in storage in Madison. "It's nowhere near the quantity they talk about on the Internet," he told the local Morgan County Citizen newspaper. Furthermore, Lacey has said the company maintains detailed records of product ownership and is audited annually, to insure all vaults are accounted for.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... ws/4312850

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6961

jlockest wrote:

roscoe wrote:

Sheila wrote:

That dear boy is a bog-standard benchmark.

What? On the ........... appears at 0.04. With the comment
"Those guys will do anything for publicity"

.........

Yep! Hidden in full view. They've been there for years and this has been planned for years. Why do you think the Templars were on Hackney Wick? You just got used to it. But those in the know realise how to read this. All part of social engineering by the TAVISTOCK INSTITUTE. You're expected to treat this with disdain, T.H.E.Y. know how your LEFT brain works.

Quote:

The ideology of American foundations was created by the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations in London. In 1921, the Duke of Bedford, Marquess of Tavistock, the 11th Duke, gave a building to the Institute to study the effect of shellshock on British soldiers who survived World War I. Its purpose was to establish the "breaking point" of men under stress, under the direction of the British Army Bureau of Psychological Warfare, commanded by Sir John Rawlings-Reese.

The Duke of Bedford family seat is Woburn Abbey, Bedfordshire. The private mausoleum and chapel of the Russell Family and the Dukes of Bedford is at St. Michael’s Church in Chenies, Buckinghamshire.

.....
St Michael's Church, Chenies, Buckinghamshire or Tour Magdala?

See Sir John Rawlings-Reese and the men behind Hitler - http://www.toolan.com/hitler/phoenix.html

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Especially since the last world war we have done much to infiltrate the various social organisations throughout the country, and in their work and in their point of view one can see clearly how the principles for which this society and others stood in the past have become accepted as part of the ordinary working plan of these various bodies. That is as it should be, and while we can take heart from this we must be healthily discontented and realise that there is still more work to be done along this line. Similarly we have made a useful attack upon a number of professions. The two easiest of them naturally are the teaching profession and the Church: the two most difficult are law and medicine...

If we are to infiltrate the professional and social activities of other people I think we must imitate the Totalitarians and organise some kind of fifth column activity!

John Rawlings Rees M.D.
Address to the Annual Meeting of the National Council for Mental Hygiene June 18th 1940

So bog standard means you've been socially engineered to get used to seeing it, but to Solis Sacerdotibus it means something.

.....
In Sauniere's chapel
Jacob and THE GATE OF HEAVEN
TERRIBILIS EST LOCUS ISTE

Quote:

In Jacob’s dream, he has seen the opening between dimensions, normally only accessible to angels and prophets. According to Christian mystics and Gnostics, this Gate is available to all serious initiates. This ladder between the mundane and the heavenly realms is developed by practicing the ancient work of inner alchemy. As in Egyptian, Taoist, Vedic, Buddhist and Christian esoteric knowledge, one extends one’s sphere of possibilities with conscious breath work, meditation and using sacred sounds to vibrate and awaken the inner cauldrons of power, or energy centers.

Patrice Chaplin - City of Secrets

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To freemasons the personage of Hiram Abiff is venerated, several theories as to the identity of Hiram Abiff abound however the name probably came from a westernised corruption of the Arabic Haram Al-Sharif which is the Arabic name for the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the former site of Solomon’s Temple and even the Hebrew name for the Temple Har haBayit has some similarity and both these mean ‘The Noble Sanctuary’. It carries the phrase written in Latin:

‘This is the house of God and these are the gates of heaven.’

Over the door of Sauniere's church.

T.H.E.Y. are going to attempt to open the gate with the ritual sacrifice of 100,000 people.

...

You need to read Occult Theocrasy.

Of course you will think that this is all nonsense because it wont happen based on the premise that it hasn't happened before.

Roscoe,
I don't think it can't happen, but I get lost as to who the good and the bad guys are in all this.
You're saying that the Templars had a preceptory on Hackney Wick, because it was part of a plan to create havoc at the Olympics in 2012? IE they bought land (or had land given to them) 600 years before the modern Olympic movement started? So someone started the Olympic movement as part of the conspiracy and also London was awarded the games in a rigged vote? Doesn't that mean that someone needed a crystal ball back in the 13th/14th Century - or is everything planned and inescapable?

Was Sauniere then trying to warn the world or part of the conspiracy - as I presume the Templars and the Masons are the bad guys? The Royal families and nobles are all also in on it?

Who isn't part of the conspiracy?

The land bought by the Knights Templar at Hackney Wick was a Ley Line Vortex (a meeting of two or more Ley lines) and so is Rennes le Chateau (here it is called Haut-lieu d’energie). The followers of the Occult believe that making sacrifices at these points will give them some kind of power.

Now the earth rotates but it does something called Precession i.e. like a spinning child's top it it moves it's axis of spin. Now this may or may not be influenced by the Billions and billions (called Google) of tons of gravitational pull from the stars rotating in our galaxy. Now through this precession it tranpires that the axis of our rotation is about to line up with the rotation of all the stars in the Galaxy (Milky Way). And was predicated to happen in 2012 by the Mayans.

Now this has got all the Occult afficionadoes Kabbalists, Gnostics etc excited.

It is important to realise that there are two levels of religious indoctrination. One for the masses and one for the initiated. The initiated include the elite who regard the enlightenment of the masses as a threat to their position and their wealth. It has been stated that certain groups would like to see the world's population reduced to 500,000, the Georgia stones actually state as much.

Sauniere seems to know about the Gate of Heaven, he makes reference to it in his church.

The Gate of Heaven is the point in the sky where the Galactic Plane crosses the Ecliptic plane You can see from this that the Equatorial plane almost parallel with the Celestial Equator. This is the NEW AGE of Aquarius.

But in addition to this the orbit of Venus which forms a pentacle with the earth's orbit crosses the sun's disc TODAY. Every eight years the venus and the sun are in conjunction and this is every 5 Venus years.

5/8 = 0.625 which is close to the Golden Section.

However 2004 and 2012 Venus actually goes over the sun's disc later on the 6th August (Transfiguration) it passes over the Gate of Heaven. This is during the Olympics. Venus will appear to go into retrograde tomorrow and then double back actually on the opening ceremony of the Olympics. It will transit the equator on June 6th http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_of_Venus,_2012

So what you have is the Goddess passing the area in the sky that points to the centre of the Milky Way. This would be too much for a pagan ritual to miss making a sacrifice.

It wont of course do anything but these people are nuts and have been planing it for centuries.

The people doing the deed have been hypnotised by an intiation ritual and don't see the moral consequences in what they do. They think they're doing it for God or a supreme being. They think it's the End of the World. In reality it's to get us all to clamour for protection and agree to the mass culling they have planned. They need a big event for this, exploding a Nuclear weapon at the Olympics beamed all over the world on TV is a big event that even dwarfs 911. The device will be small suitcase bomb that will destroy the East end of London but most of the city will remain. The capital will be evacuated of course using Operation Sassoon.

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

You're...you're quoting Nazi sympathizer Edith Miller now?

Pro:

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Modernists dismiss Edith as "anti-Semitic," a term used by the narrow-minded to end open-minded discussion. Miller's sin? She wrote that Judaism's goal (and secret societies) was to enpower the super rich by controlling education and the mass media. She felt such goals were Satanic in origin.

Con:

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To her flaming anti-Semitism she adds absolute anti-Masonism--that is, the Masonic Lodges are all occult practitioners, bringing in dupes at the lower levels and raising the worthwhile to Luciferian inner circles.

All in all, she seems like a perfect houseguest for Lord Haw-haw: very much the British Nazi sympathiser in embryo. If you already believe as she does, you will find this loaded with "ammunition" to confirm your belief in the Illuminati take-over of the world. If you do not already agree with her, don't be stampeded by her headlong pace and constant claims without verification. Just because it's been published doesn't mean it can't be an utter and malicious lie (this is before Hitler voiced the concept of the Big Lie, but not before they existed). You owe it to yourself to read books on ancient religion and modern history written after her sources, which are often written out of the deep mire of Victorian ignorance, prejudice, and racism.

http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1812

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The initiated include the elite who regard the enlightenment of the masses as a threat to their position and their wealth. It has been stated that certain groups would like to see the world's population reduced to 500,000, the Georgia stones actually state as much.

500,000? not many to be elite over is it? If these elect elite are drunk on power then they'll have to sober up a bit. Not many people to do their bidding in this New World Order is there?

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In reality it's to get us all to clamour for protection and agree to the mass culling they have planned. They need a big event for this, exploding a Nuclear weapon at the Olympics beamed all over the world on TV is a big event that even dwarfs 911. The device will be small suitcase bomb that will destroy the East end of London but most of the city will remain. The capital will be evacuated of course using Operation Sassoon.

Well, we may all beg to be murdered but at least, it seems, we will have a nice haircut

rain · **Posted:** 14 May 2012 1:27 pm

Davinho wrote:

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The initiated include the elite who regard the enlightenment of the masses as a threat to their position and their wealth. It has been stated that certain groups would like to see the world's population reduced to 500,000, the Georgia stones actually state as much.

500,000? not many to be elite over is it? If these elect elite are drunk on power then they'll have to sober up a bit. Not many people to do their bidding in this New World Order is there?

Quote:

In reality it's to get us all to clamour for protection and agree to the mass culling they have planned. They need a big event for this, exploding a Nuclear weapon at the Olympics beamed all over the world on TV is a big event that even dwarfs 911. The device will be small suitcase bomb that will destroy the East end of London but most of the city will remain. The capital will be evacuated of course using Operation Sassoon.

Well, we may all beg to be murdered but at least, it seems, we will have a nice haircut

Vidal Sassoon just passed away.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainme ... 6351618028

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1812

his haircuts will always live on

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6961

Davinho wrote:

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The initiated include the elite who regard the enlightenment of the masses as a threat to their position and their wealth. It has been stated that certain groups would like to see the world's population reduced to 500,000, the Georgia stones actually state as much.

500,000? not many to be elite over is it? If these elect elite are drunk on power then they'll have to sober up a bit. Not many people to do their bidding in this New World Order is there?

Quote:

In reality it's to get us all to clamour for protection and agree to the mass culling they have planned. They need a big event for this, exploding a Nuclear weapon at the Olympics beamed all over the world on TV is a big event that even dwarfs 911. The device will be small suitcase bomb that will destroy the East end of London but most of the city will remain. The capital will be evacuated of course using Operation Sassoon.

Well, we may all beg to be murdered but at least, it seems, we will have a nice haircut

The Georgia Guidestone.

Sorry should have been 500,000,000.
The Nazi Eugenics programme is not so bad.

They're in several languages. :wink:

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6961

TCJ wrote:

You're...you're quoting Nazi sympathizer Edith Miller now?

Pro:
Modernists dismiss Edith as "anti-Semitic," a term used by the narrow-minded to end open-minded discussion. Miller's sin? She wrote that Judaism's goal (and secret societies) was to enpower the super rich by controlling education and the mass media. She felt such goals were Satanic in origin.

You forgot
After reading Miller's opus, it is hard to argue otherwise in light of what is occurring in the world today. The work is simply fascinating.

TCJ wrote:

Con:
To her flaming anti-Semitism she adds absolute anti-Masonism--that is, the Masonic Lodges are all occult practitioners, bringing in dupes at the lower levels and raising the worthwhile to Luciferian inner circles.

All in all, she seems like a perfect houseguest for Lord Haw-haw: very much the British Nazi sympathiser in embryo. If you already believe as she does, you will find this loaded with "ammunition" to confirm your belief in the Illuminati take-over of the world. If you do not already agree with her, don't be stampeded by her headlong pace and constant claims without verification. Just because it's been published doesn't mean it can't be an utter and malicious lie (this is before Hitler voiced the concept of the Big Lie, but not before they existed). You owe it to yourself to read books on ancient religion and modern history written after her sources, which are often written out of the deep mire of Victorian ignorance, prejudice, and racism.

http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy

Probably she read the Talmud. And when read that who wouldn't? http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about ... temNo=1025

The True Torah Jews didn't like the Talmud either http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

She was married to a member of the British Fascist Party pre-WWII who nevertheless was the treasurer of The League Of Nations. The same League of Nations that presided over the formation of the State of Israel in 1922.. The US was not a member of the League of Nations but nevertheless recognised the new state of Israel in 1922.

11th September 1922.

She did become estranged and then murdered.

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6961

rain wrote:

Davinho wrote:

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The initiated include the elite who regard the enlightenment of the masses as a threat to their position and their wealth. It has been stated that certain groups would like to see the world's population reduced to 500,000, the Georgia stones actually state as much.

500,000? not many to be elite over is it? If these elect elite are drunk on power then they'll have to sober up a bit. Not many people to do their bidding in this New World Order is there?

Quote:

In reality it's to get us all to clamour for protection and agree to the mass culling they have planned. They need a big event for this, exploding a Nuclear weapon at the Olympics beamed all over the world on TV is a big event that even dwarfs 911. The device will be small suitcase bomb that will destroy the East end of London but most of the city will remain. The capital will be evacuated of course using Operation Sassoon.

Well, we may all beg to be murdered but at least, it seems, we will have a nice haircut

Vidal Sassoon just passed away.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainme ... 6351618028

And so will you if you don't measure up in the cull.

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6961

Davinho wrote:

his haircuts will always live on

Probably done at throat level whilst they nick your kids.

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

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She did become estranged and then murdered.

Murdered? How so and by whom?
Please cite proof beyond Rense or Icke centered webpages.

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Her name is sometimes linked with the Order of the Golden Dawn and the British Fascist movement. Her death in Paris on Sunday January 16, 1933 is sometimes described as suspicious. Neither the suspicions nor links—nor her birth date—appear to be documented.

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Common Sense is noteworthy, not only for what little biographical information it contains, but also for two insights into her thinking. Her motivation in preparing this book is not so much home economics as it is suspicion: if you don't keep an eye on the servants, they'll steal you blind. She makes numerous references to "extravagance (or something else) on the part of cooks", to "Graft or waste or both", and ways to "discourage grafters and thieves" and the "easy swindle." Her lack of organized thinking — or an editor — also shows itself.

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Edith Starr Miller wrote three books: the first, Common sense in the Kitchen, in 1918, the second, Occult Theocrasy published posthumously in France, in 1933, and a third, Judaism. Although on the catalogue of the State University of Washington, this third book is unavailable and may be a chimera.

Occult Theocrasy relies heavily on the published works of self-described freemason, Domenico Margiotta; the hoaxers Dr. Karl Hacks and Leo Taxil and their creations, Diana Vaughan and Dr. Bataille the imaginary Miss. Vaughan’s promoter, Adriano Lemmi; anti-mason, Samuel Paul Rosen (1840-1907), theosophist, Alice Bailey (1880-1949); Taxil’s supporter, Clarin de la Rive, Nesta H. Webster and the once anonymous "Inquire Within"..

In the balance, Miller brought nothing new to the mythology of the secret societies, although her anti-Masonic and anti-Mormon rhetoric continues to be quoted in fundamentalist Christian literature.

http://www.anatpro.com/index_files/Edit ... Miller.htm

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6961

TCJ wrote:

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She did become estranged and then murdered.

Murdered? How so and by whom?
Please cite proof beyond Rense or Icke centered webpages.

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Her name is sometimes linked with the Order of the Golden Dawn and the British Fascist movement. Her death in Paris on Sunday January 16, 1933 is sometimes described as suspicious. Neither the suspicions nor links—nor her birth date—appear to be documented.

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Common Sense is noteworthy, not only for what little biographical information it contains, but also for two insights into her thinking. Her motivation in preparing this book is not so much home economics as it is suspicion: if you don't keep an eye on the servants, they'll steal you blind. She makes numerous references to "extravagance (or something else) on the part of cooks", to "Graft or waste or both", and ways to "discourage grafters and thieves" and the "easy swindle." Her lack of organized thinking — or an editor — also shows itself.

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Edith Starr Miller wrote three books: the first, Common sense in the Kitchen, in 1918, the second, Occult Theocrasy published posthumously in France, in 1933, and a third, Judaism. Although on the catalogue of the State University of Washington, this third book is unavailable and may be a chimera.

Occult Theocrasy relies heavily on the published works of self-described freemason, Domenico Margiotta; the hoaxers Dr. Karl Hacks and Leo Taxil and their creations, Diana Vaughan and Dr. Bataille the imaginary Miss. Vaughan’s promoter, Adriano Lemmi; anti-mason, Samuel Paul Rosen (1840-1907), theosophist, Alice Bailey (1880-1949); Taxil’s supporter, Clarin de la Rive, Nesta H. Webster and the once anonymous "Inquire Within"..

In the balance, Miller brought nothing new to the mythology of the secret societies, although her anti-Masonic and anti-Mormon rhetoric continues to be quoted in fundamentalist Christian literature.

http://www.anatpro.com/index_files/Edit ... Miller.htm

I have no problem with this especially her quoting others (never found this a problem myself) except to say that even the link you gave says that the Grand Lodge of Canada says her death was suspicious and as she was the wife of an aristocraft (even estranged she would have kept her title) her obituary never appeared in The Times probably the one and only time the death of a British Aristocrat never appeared in this journal.

But you do wonder from where she got the concept of hidden masters from. Any more character assassination quips? You do like playing their games for them. Don't you?

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

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I have no problem with this especially her quoting others

Her premise is almost entirely based on the fraud confessed by Gabriel Jogand-Pag and more was taken by her from other writers (Albert Pike) further blathering on from the formers "Taxil Hoax" concoctions.

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her obituary never appeared in The Times probably the one and only time the death of a British Aristocrat never appeared in this journal.

The press of that era was far too aghast to described how she went down the obscenely stretched and gaping maw a Sixty Six Degree Reptilian Over-Lord.

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6961

TCJ wrote:

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I have no problem with this especially her quoting others

Her premise is almost entirely based on the fraud confessed by Gabriel Jogand-Pag and more was taken by her from other writers (Albert Pike) further blathering on from the formers "Taxil Hoax" concoctions.

Who says they're a hoax?

Oh and she does not only quote Jogand-Pages.

Not only does she quote many others she actually prints photographs of letters at the back. Some of them are from Aliester Crowley.

I suggest you read what she actually writes before you quote her character assassins willy nilly.

who are these "Hidden Masters" she refers to?

Sheila · **Posted:** 14 May 2012 3:16 pm

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That dear boy is a bog-standard benchmark.

haud on a wee moment there...are you seriously trying to tell me that this is not a surveyors' cut mark, which is, as the name suggests, is cut into a vertical wall, post, standing stone and so on ?

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

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Who says they're a hoax?

None other than the hoaxer himself.

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The Taxil hoax was an 1890s hoax of exposure by Léo Taxil intended to mock not only Freemasonry, but also the Roman Catholic Church's opposition to it

Blah blah, on and on...it's all tripe and rubbish.

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The first book produced by Taxil after his conversion was a four-volume history of Freemasonry, which contained fictitious eyewitness verifications of their participation in Satanism.

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Taxil wrote another book called the Devil in the Nineteenth Century, which introduced a new character, Diana Vaughan, a supposed descendant of the Rosicrucian alchemist Thomas Vaughan. The book contained many implausible tales about her encounters with incarnate demons, one of whom was supposed to have written prophecies on her back with its tail, and another who played the piano in the shape of a crocodile

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On April 19, 1897 Taxil called a press conference at which he claimed he would introduce Diana Vaughan to the press. He instead announced that his revelations about the Freemasons were fictitious. He thanked the clergy for their assistance in giving publicity to his wild claims.

The hoax material is still used to this day. Chick Publications publishes such a tract called The Curse of Baphomet and Randy Noblitt's book on satanic ritual abuse, Cult and Ritual Abuse also cites the Taxil hoax.

Crimson_Ghost · **Posted:** 14 May 2012 3:43 pm

Sheila wrote:

That dear boy is a bog-standard benchmark.

haud on a wee moment there...are you seriously trying to tell me that this is not a surveyors' cut mark, which is, as the name suggests, is cut into a vertical wall, post, standing stone and so on ?

Hi Sheila, is that just a random stone marker, or is it burial monument of some sort.

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1812

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Probably done at throat level whilst they nick your kids.

don't worry I have plans to kill and eat any small people in my vicinity come the apocalypse

Spartacus Paraclete · **Joined:** 30 Dec 2009 12:04 pm **Posts:** 1906

Roscoe wrote:

The Nazi Eugenics programme is not so bad.

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