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Since his conversion, M. Jean Kostka has exhibited much harmless devotion towards Joan of Arc, an enthusiasm which originated among occultists, and he has pious memories of St Stanislaus Kostka, for which dispositions I trust that all my readers will have the complaisance to commend him. He writes, furthermore, "in the decline of maturity, on the threshold of age, in the late autumn of life," which is his dropsical method of saying that he is past sixty, and he veils a "futile name" under the patronymic of his favourite saint. Jean Kostka is not Jean Kostka, but it is without intent to deceive that he evades any possible responsibility in connection with his concealed identity; it is a kind of pious self-effacement, I hope everyone will believe what he says, and give him all credit for having "turned towards the outraged Church." In matters of evidence, pseudonymous statements are, however, objectionable, and I therefore identify our witness as Jules Doinel, who was chiefly concerned in the restoration of the Gnosis and the establishment of a "Gnostic church" in Paris about the year 1890, and is moreover not unknown as a Masonic orator, and in the world of belles-lettres. M. Papus, with the generosity of a mystic, can only speak well of the pious enthusiast who has betrayed his cause and scandalised the school he represents; he explains that Jules Doinel is a marvellous poet deficient in the scientific culture which might have enabled him to explain in a peaceable fashion the phenomena squandered upon him by the world invisible, so that there were only two courses open for him—renunciation of the transcendental path, or madness. "Let us bless heaven that the patriarch of the Gnosis has selected the former." It is possibly showing gratitude for small mercies, because our friend has saved his reason, but is blood-guilty in the matter of common sense. Meanwhile, the widowed Gnosis illuminates its Ichabod in the cryptic quartiers of Paris, Lyons, and so forth.

Jules Doinel
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Gnosticism


Gnostic Church Revival

After spiritual experiences in 1888-89, he proclaimed 1890 the beginning of "the era of Gnosis restored." Doinel assumed the office of Patriach of the Eglise Gnostique (French: Gnostic Church), taking the ecclesiastical name of Tau Valentin II, after Valentinius, the second century Christian Gnostic teacher.[1] [2]

The doctrinal orientation of the church was based on extant Cathar documents, with the Gospel of John, and strong influence of Simonian and Valentinian cosmology, the church was officially established in the autumn of 1890 in Paris, France. Liturgical services were based on Cathar rituals. Clergy were both male and female, having male bishops and female "sophias."[3]

Doinel was "spiritually consecrated" in a spiritual experience in 1888 and not into a line of Apostolic Succession. Doinel subsequently consecrated a number of bishops for the Eglise Gnostique, notable among these was Gérard Encausse founder of the closely allied Martinist Order.

Anti-Masonic Period (1895-1897)

In 1895, Doinel resigned from the Eglise Gnostique, leaving the leadership of the church to a council of bishops. Doinel then converted to Roman Catholicism and began a collaboration with Léo Taxil, one of many taken in by Taxil's anti-masonic hoax. Doinel wrote a book entitled Lucifer Unmasked, a book attacking freemasonry, under the name Jean Kostka, in which he associated many of his prior activities with the diabolic.

A. E. Waite described Lucifer Unmasked and revealed the real identity of its author in Devil Worship in France his exposé of the anti-masonic movement Taxil inspired. Taxil unveiled his hoax in 1897.

Reconciliation

Doinel was readmitted as a bishop in the Eglise Gnostique in 1900.

Ordre du Croissant

For the Ottoman Order of the Crescent, see Order of the Crescent.

The Ordre du Croissant (Order of the Crescent; Italian - Ordine della Luna Crescente) was a chivalric order founded by Charles I of Naples and Sicily in 1268. It was revived in 1448 or 1464 by René I, king of Jerusalem, Sicily and Aragon (including parts of Provence), to provide him with a rival to the English Order of the Garter. René was one of the champions of the medieval system of chivalry and knighthood, and this new order was (like its English rival) neo-Arthurian in character. Its insignia consisted of a golden crescent moon engraved in grey with the word LOZ, with a chain of 3 gold loops above the crescent. On René's death, the Order lapsed.

In later culture
René and his Order of the Crescent were adopted as "historical founders" by the Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity in 1912, as exemplars of chivalry and Christian charity. Ceremonies of the Order of the Crescent were referenced in formulating ceremonies for the fraternity.

At the end of the nineteenth century Doinel worked as an archivist for departmental archives of the Loiret . Having found the documents of the time, he was fascinated by the martyrdom of Cathars and began to study their doctrines as well as those which they had inspired, including Bogomil , the Paulicians , the Manichean and especially the Gnostics . It was so permeated much of this literature , one night in 1888, he had the vision of the "Aeon Jesus "which undertook to build a new church. Subsequently Doinel tried to use spiritualism to get in touch with spirits Cathar and Gnostic in sessions that took place in the salons of Lady Caithness ( Mariategui Maria , Duchess of Pomar Medina ), a rich Theosophist , a follower of Dr. Anna Kingsford . The spirit manifestations comforted in its mission.

Jules Doinel founded in 1890, Universal Gnostic Church, and declared the year 1890 "a year of the Restoration of the Gnosis . " At a synod held September 12, 1893, he was elected Patriarch as the mystique of Valentin II, in honor of Valentine's Day , the largest of the Gnostics. However, in 1894, he resigned his position. Under the name of Jean Kostka, Doinel published books anti-Masonic and conspiracy in which he showed the relationship between Freemasonry and Satanism (Lucifer Unmasked, 1895). Léonce Fabre Dessessart became patriarch under the name of Tau Synesius January 3, 1896 . Subsequently, in 1896, Jules Doinel's Gnostic Church reinstated as bishop of Alet and Mirepoix , given that in the meantime he had established his residence in Carcassonne , where he was appointed librarian.

Lady Caithness - Spiritism

If her first experiences spiritualists took place in Britain, where she attended meetings of Florence Cook . But it was rather an admirer and follower of Allan Kardec and his ideas spiritualists . She was so close to Christian spirituality. His book Old Truths in a New Light of 1876, close to the thought of Kardec, tries to reconcile theosophy , Catholicism and spiritism. It earned him bitter criticism from the Catholic clergy. She joined in 1876 at the Theosophical Society founded by Madame Blavatsky and Colonel Olcott in New York last year , , . It was Lady Caithness who gave Anna Kingsford in 1883 to take the direction of the London Lodge of the Theosophical Society . In 1884, during his stay in Paris , to Lady Caithness, Madame Blavatsky approved the creation of the "Theosophical Society of East and West", the French branch of the Theosophical Society. It was even a time considered the obvious successor to Madame Blavatsky as head of global theosophy. But the death of the latter, it was finally Annie Besant who took over the leadership of the Theosophical Society . Like Anna Kingsford, theosophy of Lady Caithness was also growing footprint of esoteric Christianity influenced by Boehme and Swedenborg and away the dominant Eastern traditions in the Theosophical Society. However, it rejected the concept of original sin and Christ's divinity. It was a spiritual living in his mansion in Paris, every Wednesday from spring to fall. She received Charles Richet , Camille Flammarion , Annie Besant and Jules Doinel (founder of the Gnostic Apostolic Church ) .

Quote:
"I envy not the man who can climb Schiehallion without experiencing certain emotions of reverential awe, which raise the thoughts of the heart from earthly to heavenly things. I can truly say that in my climbings of the dear mountain, I invariably felt myself, as it were, in a sweet atmosphere of Bible imagery, thinking of Moses, Elijah, the Saviour, and others, when they climbed those sacred mountains in the east, and there held communion with the great Father of spirits....The poem entitled, 'The Second Sight: A Rannoch Mystery,' has got at least this one merit that it is an attempt to picture out a form of belief in the superhuman which has probably existed among the people of the district for many hundreds of years. In former times it was the males that were the seers of the Rannoch Israel; but in our day the Deborahs and the Huldahs have taken up the role of revealing the mysteries of the present, the distant, and the future."

Heredom is the flagship publication of the Scottish Rite Research Society, sent to members annually since 1992. It is a collection of the finest essays on contemporary and historical Freemasonry emphasizing the Scottish Rite

"...the Order, as a whole, is especially a school of moral knighthood, endeavouring to develop the spirituality of its members by the study of the invisible world and its laws, by the exercise of devotion and the intellectual assistance and by the creation in each spirit of an all the more solid faith as it is based on observation and science."

Spiritualism, popular in America, had taken hold in Europe in the second half of the nineteenth century and had become a key feature of Martinist ritual. We know that Papus himself held seances for contacting spirits. One can easily see how attractive such activity would have been to a questioning priest. Despite being outlawed by Rome, direct contact with the dead would have held a fascination to those whose lives were dedicated to preparation for the afterlife.

Papus and his involvement in esoteric movements became widely known amongst those with an interest in occultism. In 1905, Papus was summoned to the court of Tsar Nicolas II to hold a “Spiritual Seance” at which the spirit of his son Alexander III was raised. The Russian Court had been witness to many seances arising from the interest of Tsar Alexander II and his wife in occultism. In fact as early as 1861, the Scottish medium DD Home, accompanied by the French writer Alexander Dumas, held seances at the Winter Palace, St Petersburg for the Tsar, his Courtiers and other Russian aristocrats.

It is during this episode that we become aware of the notorious Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Allegedly the minutes of the World Zionist meeting that took place at Basle in 1897, they caused quite a stir at the Russian Court where they were used to cast a slur on certain political factions.

Contrary to popular belief, they are not a forgery, nor a fiction; but neither are they of Zionist origin. In fact they formed the basis of a Martinist plan for Synarchic government. Papus himself wrote of such a plan as a necessary counter to what he saw as creeping anarchy. Aware of their political potential, they were used by a faction of dissident Russian exiles to discredit Russian noblemen involved in Freemasonry who were believed to be involved in a conspiracy to influence the Tsar.
This Martinist document was then seen by Sergei Nilus; who confused the Martinist symbol - a six-pointed star - with the Zionist Star of David. He immediately interpreted the document as being a Zionist plan and part of a Zionist conspiracy. The Martinists were duly attacked as belonging to this illusory Judeo-masonic plot. Anti-Semitic tendencies of the time greatly helped to fuel this confusion and added to its propaganda value that continues even until today.

Note the brother of Charles I of Naples was called Philippe Dagobert. His sister was Saint Isabelle
His mother was Blanche de Castille.

The three branches of the Martinist tradition

Martinism can be divided into three forms through which it has been chronologically transmitted:
The Elus-Cohens. This was the first, and explicitly theurgical way that 'reintegration' were to be attained.

The Elus-Cohens were founded by Martinez de Pasqually, who was Saint-Martin's teacher. The original Elus Cohens ceased to exist sometime in the late eighteenth or early 19th century, but it was revived in the 20th century by Robert Ambelain, and lives on today in various Martinist Orders, including the branch reinstigated by Ambelain himself.
The Scottish Rectified Rite or Chevaliers Bienfaisants de la Cité-Sainte (CBCS). This was originally a Masonic rite, a reformed variant of the Rite of Strict Observance which, in its highest degrees, uses Masonic-type rituals to demonstrate the philosophy which underlies both Martinism and the practices of the Elus-Cohens.

The CBCS was founded in the late 18th Century by Jean-Baptiste Willermoz, who was a pupil of Martinez de Pasqually and a friend of Saint-Martin. The CBCS has managed to survive as a continually practiced rite from its founding until the present day, both as a purely masonic rite, and as a detached rite which is also open for women.
The Martinism of Louis-Claude de Saint-Martin which is a Mystical tradition in which emphasis is placed on Meditation and inner spiritual alchemy. Saint-Martin disapproved of these teachings being called 'martinism' by his contemporaries, and instead explained it as a silent 'way of the heart' to attain reintegration.

Saint-Martin most likely did not organize this path as an 'order', but gathered small circles of students around him, where he transmitted his teachings. This heritage was reorganized into the 'Ordre Martiniste' in 1886 by Augustin Chaboseau and Gerard Encausse (aka Papus).

Vision céleste pour celui qui me souvient des quatres oeuvres de Em. SIGNOL autour de la ligne du Méridien, au choeur même du sanctuaire d'où rayonne cette source d'amour des uns pour les autres, je pivote sur moi-même passant du regard la rose du P à celle de l'S, puis de l'S au P ... et la spirale dans mon esprit devenant comme un poulpe monstrueux expulsant son encre, les ténèbres absorbent la lumière, j'ai le vertige et je porte ma main à ma bouche mordant instinctivement ma paume, peut-être comme OLIER dans son cerceuil. Malédiction, je comprends la vérité, IL EST PASSE, mais lui aussi en faisant LE BIEN, ainsi que xxxxxxxx CELUI de la tombe fleurie . Mais combien ont saccagé la MAISON, ne laissant que des cadavres embaumés et nombres de métaux qu'ils n'avaient pu emporter. Quel étrange mystère recèle le nouveau temple de SALOMON édifié par les enfants de Saint VINCENT.

THE SCOTS Philosophic Rite dates from 1766. It was completely established by Lazare Bruneteau. Streams of it go as far back as 1740 to different schools of Hermeticism that worked under Masonic forms. In 1776 it constituted itself the "Mother Lodge." It consisted of eleven degrees. First came the three Craft degrees - Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft and Master Mason, then Perfect Master 4d, Select Philosophic Knight 5d, Knight of the Sun 6d, Grand Scots Mason 7d, Knight of Iris 8d, Knight of the Luminous Ring 9d , Knight of the White and Black Eagle 10d, and Grand Inspector Commander 11d. The philosophy of Pythagoras was taught in this Rite. Dr. Anderson says that "his (Pythagoras') mysteries were the most perfect approximation of the original Science of Free Masonry which could be accomplished by a philosopher without the aid of revelation." On account of its splendid membership and their fine literary labors it is just as well to overlook its hermetic and theosophic degrees. It heroically held out against the 33d, but succumbed in 1826, when it peacefully passed away.

I'm not sure where you get "SI" from Roscoe, I personally would have thought it to be "SY". Interesting those dots between the letters eh...? I wonder what they mean?
Whatever, it applied to Camille as well.
So a priest called Sauniere allegedly visited a Martinist Lodge in Lyon, our friend from RLC necessarily? What proof do you have of this? Was there not at least one other contemporary man of the cloth by that name? Was Sauniere a not uncommon name in those times?

Roscoe


It seems Blanche Castille wanted the name Dagobert
connected with her son

Dagobert is connected with the Merovingians

It seems Blanche felt she was related to that holy dynastic family

It is the normal signature of a Martinist Superior Inconnu.

You will remember that it was Papus that started the modern Martinist movement in Lyon. Papus died in 1916 working as a doctor in the trenches, perhaps Sauniere lost one of his benefactors.

Gérard Encausse known as Papus.

Harvey Spencer Lewis visited France in 1909 in search of the Rosicrucians and he was contacted by someone and initiated into the movement in Toulouse. This was likely to be a member of the Qabalistic Order of the Rosy Cross founded in 1888 with Marquis Stanislas de Guaita the first Grand Master. Lewis returned to the US and founded the AMORC in New York City in 1915. The most interesting aspect of Harvey Spencer Lewis is his title, which is:

Dr Harvey Spencer Lewis F.R.C., SI . 33º 66º 95º PhD

 = Character code 92 i.e. three dots arranged in a triangle.

You are being disingenuous Roscoe, I doubt not the Martinist tradition of an SI, I was, as I am sure you are aware, referring to the annotations following the signatures of Emma and Camille.

Our whole work is based upon the Law of Thelema as laid down in the
Book CCXX; cooperation between us would therefore involve the official
acceptance of this Law.
The A.'.A.'. is the Third Order of Secret Chiefs, containing Three Grades,
Ipsissimus, Magus and Magister Templi: it will be necessary for you to
recognise To Mega Therion - 666 - as Magus of the Order and Logos
Aionos, the Supreme visible authority of the A.'.A.'.

“Yes; the game of cards called Tarot, which the Gypsies possess, is the Bible of Bibles. It is the book of Thoth Hermes Trismegistus, the book of Adam, the book of the primitive Revelation of ancient civilizations,”

G'bye!! I'm sick to death of mindless time wasting pedantry on this forum and the bored (and boring) machinations of thread destroyers and people who have destroyed a once good forum. rs2008 placed on ignore.

Wait a second isn't the devil is in the details 'scuse the pun. I don't think rs2008 is trying to waste your time, he's just trying to point something out that I'm a bit confused about as well. I think some of these People are pretending to be something they're not or at least portrayed to be esp. Jules Doinel well known for this practice of Volte face.
Not to mention papus was a very devious Malchik.

OK so why are their signatures on a Papus document at all?

Lets just draw back here a movement. OK what they say is bunk - right?

What are they playing at. What are their motives for dedicating most of their lives to this?

Why are we here?

The ONLY reason I keep on at this is because of Sauniere and his money. Who gave him their hard earned cash and why? Devious? Of course they're devious. They're from secret societies, they're supposed to be devious.

It's just that rs2008 post was mindless. He calls me disingenuous, IOW he went straight into the usual attack mode. I don't like being called insincere.
To him it looks like a Y and we are now going to have Megabytes of utter crap saying oh yes it is oh no it isn't.. Sorry not going there, I have a life.


I thought this forum had cured itself, I was wrong. It seems people can't read. Just looked at the exchanges between Hotspur and Irmine. I'm not going to get angry and frustrated again and waste my time on here. I have better things to do.

g'Bye!!!!

Okay, fair enough, I thought your point about Sauniere receiving money off them was valid. Plus I probably stuck my nose in the Hotspur and Irmine thing without thinking.
I know you've probably gone over this stuff over and over again but I just started to understand it a bit, so I was interested in a lot of your links. I thought they were interesting plus I'm not sure where this is but I thought you always made a point about Rhedae in that you where were the 30,000 or more bodies. I kept that in mind when I was looking for it and I proposed to Irmine an alternative placement. Just thought I'd let you know. I'm a bit slow but I get there in the end.

You may be interested to learn that there is a dig going on close to Riversaltes (nearer to Perillos than RLC) and a few of the archaeologists are saying that it looks like it could be Rhedae. Early days though.

Speaking of deviousness. I first recognised the possibility that there were people out there who took it upon themselves to steer away researchers when I learned about Lincoln and the Emma Calve stone at the Fontaine Des Amours. He said many times that he thought that someone was following him around planting (Plantard) evidence. There's something that de Cherisey said along these lines. For quite understandable reasons it seems that there are people out there who don't want us (the Profane) to find out the truth and therefore we do have to be careful what leads we follow. They may be false trials and my experience is that most of them are. I've abandoned and revisited clues many times.

It's OK to be slow, it is sometimes a distinct advantage. When studying Rennes le Chateau you have to learn some skills as well as facts.

If we extend the Father de Coma alignment beyond his tombstone and into the Church of Saint Mary Magdalene some 40 meters in the distance, we intersect a statue of Joan of Arc. Is this coincidence or a reference to the Angelic Society? Ultimately, we are left with a puzzle; is the Father de Coma alignment a deliberate attempt to highlight matters of significance, or is it mere coincidence?


Joan of Arc – marking the end of the Father de Coma Alignment.
Is this a reference to the Angelic Society?

1431. Joan of Arc. Not far from Domremy there is a certain tree that is called the Ladies' Tree [Arbor Dominarum], others call it the Fairies' Tree, Arbor Fatalium, gallice des Faées], beside which is a spring [which cured fevers]. It is a great tree, a beech [fagus], from which comes the may [unde venit mayum, gallice le beau may]. It belongs to Seigneur Pierre de Bourlemont. Old people, not of her lineage, said that fairy-ladies haunted there [conversabantur]. Had heard her godmother Jeanne, wife of the Mayor, say she had seen fairy-women there. She herself had never seen fairies at the tree that she knew of. She made garlands at the tree, with other girls, for the image of the Blessed Mary of Domremy. Sometimes with the other children she hung garlands on the tree, sometimes they left them, sometimes they took them away. 'She had danced there with the other children, but not since she was grown up. She had sung there more than she had danced. She had heard that it was said 'Jeanne received her mission at the tree of the fairy-ladies'.' The saints [Katharine and Margaret] came and spoke to her at the spring beside the Fairies' tree, but she would not say if they came to the tree itself.[2]

Gilles de Rais has had some cultural impact and is one among several candidates believed to be the inspiration for the 1697 fairy tale Bluebeard by Charles Perrault.

Mon émotion fut grande, "RETIRE MOI DE LA BOUE" disais-je, et
mon réveil fut immédiat. J'ai omis de vous dire en effet que c'était
un songe que j'avais fait ce 17 JANVIER, fête de Saint SULPICE. Par
la suite mon trouble persitant, j'ai voulu après réflexions d'usage
vous le relater un conte de PERRAULT. Voici donc Ami Lecteur, dans
les pages qui suivent le résultat d'un rêve m'ayant bercé dans le
monde de l'étrange à l'inconnu. A celui qui PASSE de FAIRE LE BIEN !

I see the strategy
I ignore it

Careful before you condemn this. It's from this very website, which I know you all read avidly

Father de Coma and Father Sauniere two priests who had their bodies exhumed and moved to unconsecrated ground.

At the church of Mary Magdalen at Rennes-le-Chateau, there is a curiously neglected statue. It is obviously the work of the same Marseilles craftsman who created all of the works which dominate the church's interior, yet it is essentially abandoned. It is stored on a patio outside the Villa Bethania, exposed to the elements. Paint cracks and peels from it, and tourists have seemingly chipped off bits of it as souvenirs. It is a statue of that intrinsically French saint, Joan of Arc.

When we visited the church, the tour guide could not satisfactorily explain to us why this particular statue has been exiled to this seemingly insignificant location. Neither did she know if it was ever originally within the church, or indeed anything whatsoever of its original whereabouts. This statue is a genuine anomaly. It is a piece of history relegated to insignificance in a place where virtually everything is perceived to be pregnant with potential significance. How did this statue, which, even in its present state of decay, retains the essence of its original beauty and elegance, come to attain such a poor status in relation to the other objects within the church? It is very curious.