Arcadia Discussion Zone

Just adding this because of the star of Isis reference to Magic and Magicians

The Metratron Cube and the Koch Snowflake together
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/Stormfronter/MetatronKoch2.jpg

and a Spiral with a Koch Snowflake
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9_8-Sder21Y/T4HR7jDM8PI/AAAAAAAAAOU/jQXXu7LGJqo/s1600/Koch+Snowflake+Spiral.png

Metratron cube


Metatron, an angel mentioned in apocryphal texts including the Second Book of Enoch and the Book of the Palaces.[1] These texts rank Metatron second only to YHVH in the hierarchy of spiritual beings.
Metatron as the means by which humanity was given knowledge of YHVH; presumably implying that study of Metatron's cube would be necessary to understanding the tree of life.

The Latin word Metator (messenger, guide, leader, measurer) had been suggested by Eleazar ben Judah of Worms (c. 1165 - c. 1230), Rabbi Moshe ben Nachman, and brought to light again by Hugo Odeberg.[13] When transliterated into the Hebrew language, we get מטיטור or מיטטור. Gershom Scholem argues that there is no data to justify the conversion of metator to metatron.[18] Philip Alexander also suggests this as a possible origin of Metatron, stating that the word Metator also occurs in Greek as mitator–a word for an officer in the Roman army who acted as a forerunner. Using this etymology, Alexander suggests the name may have come about as a description of "the angel of the Lord who led the Israelites through the wilderness: acting like a Roman army metator guiding the Israelites on their way".[21][22
Another possible interpretation is that of Enoch as a metator showing them "how they could escape from the wilderness of this world into the promised land of heaven". Because we see this as a word in Hebrew, Jewish Aramaic, and Greek, Alexander believes this gives even more strength to this etymology



Occultists sometimes associate archangels in Kabbalistic fashion with various seasons or elements, or even colors. In some Kabbalah-based systems of ceremonial magic, all four of the main archangels (Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Uriel) are invoked as guarding the four quarters, or directions, and their corresponding colors are associated with magical properties

Weren't the magi Medes? From the same land that gave us Asmodeus and the story of Tobit/Sarah?

Well, yes but that is the same as saying they were "Americans"..they were an INdo-European people (just like most modern Europeans)...the Persian Empire covered an area the size of the United States and many tribes and people..There were six tribes of the Medians..among them the Scythians..Buddha was from this family, and the Hungarian Magyars trace themselves back to the magi.

The name Magi implies a link with the Sumerians, who called their language Emegir, over time becoming simplified to Magi...

Magi is a loose term somewhat like the "Cathars"...or the "Essenes" or the "Hebrews"... just a group of people sharing similar religious and cultural ceremonies and beliefs. The earliest use of the description goes back to about 900BCE..

OK, I'll have to have another read, as I thought that the Medes were more akin to the Israelites rather than Americans (Ie a race split into tribes). I thought that the Medes were a 'related' group of tribes living in the Iranian area (that went on to establish an Empire), one of whose tribes were the Magi. Whereas American could mean someone of Chinese origin as likely as Hispanic.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10117a.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes
http://www.taroscopes.com/miscellanous-pages/medes.html

I can only say with certainty that 'magi' were identified in many regions and always as a group of people with similarities, especially regarding their form of worship..were they 'family' or 'tribes' or groups who adhered to certain religious rituals? I think the answer is "all"....
I am guessing your general race and characteristics would be desrcibed as "Indo-European" the same as mine....and the same as the Medes..and the Persians. And yet look at the v ariations that fall within that general description! People in India and Nepal, the Middle East, the UK, Europe, and more..

This is fascinating! Thanks for this info!

I just want to let you know the stars at Rennes and Rosslyn are the pentacle on their roofs
the Rennes ones are two dimensional while the Rosslyn one are three

Rennes-les-Bains is on the heart of Roseline



le Poulpe has the eight legs...which are fractal like that they are curves
from the Secret Dossiers
The Koch Curve
remember the Koch Snowflake has a eight pointed variant

The color red is that of Hermes (that of the kermes). The black color (of anarchy) must, in the transformations of the substance principle, transform itself into a red color.
That fact that blood is red is significant also in relation to the idea of a royal bloodline. The author’s assertion here that “Red is indeed the crimson color of the kings, this primitive race having given to the world its rules and its laws” shows that he is fully aware of the royal, red-haired Aryan race, and the fact that they are responsible for civilizing humanity.
from Tracy Twyman
http://quintessentialpublications.com/twyman/?page_id=38

The tile has three black stones with one red pointing toward the Magdalene Grove








The Red haired Mary of Bethany Jesus and Lazarus
do they belong to the same family ?


Poussins Lamentation of Christ
and the red haired child crying next to his mother with red hair
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Nicolas_Poussin_006.jpg

I actually found a Le Poulpe Pulpit in St Louis at the Shrine of St Joseph
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/lovuian/Saint%20Louis/P2080320.jpg
The Rome of the West ....St Louis is called
It is home to the Skull and Bones with the Butterfly

and it has the eight sided star
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/lovuian/Saint%20Louis/P2080312.jpg
Ad maiorem Dei gloriam or ad majorem Dei gloriam
is the Latin motto of the Society of Jesus, a religious order within the auspices of the Catholic Church. The motto is translated into English as "For the greater glory of God".
The origin of the phrase is attributed to the founder of the Jesuits, Saint Ignatius of Loyola,
In Georgetown University's Gaston Hall, the phrase is followed by inque hominum salutem, producing a longer phrase: "For the greater glory of God and the salvation of humanity
The abbreviation was frequently included in the signatures of Pope John Paul II

It also has the S and P
with the anchor

if you take the Priory of Sion's insignia
you will see the number eight for infinity
with the rope wrapped around the fleur de lis
it is the number eight

i noticed at Cordoba
a Visigoth Church..to Mosque to Catholic Church
La Mesquita Cordoba
the ceiling
http://bigmatty.typepad.com/bigmatty/religion/

and at Ravenna Italy
The burial place of Empress Galla Placidia
Her Mausoleum


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-O5wvbFxL8SY/TvMd6gpjnrI/AAAAAAAAD0A/T93wJZnqUsU/s1600/placidia5.jpg
Galla Placidia (390-450) was a well connected lady - daughter of the Emperor Theodosius I (ruled 379–395), sister of the Western Emperor Flavius Honorius (ruled 393–423), wife of the Western Emperor Constantius III (ruled 421), and mother of the Western Emperor Valentinian III (ruled 425–455). She also spent five years forcibly married to the Visigoth Chieftan Ataulphus, after being captured by him when Rome finally fell in 410. She adorned Ravenna with a number of churches. The small mausoleum in the grounds of San Vitale, known (incorrectly) as the Mausoleum of Galla Placidia,

The Octopus (La Poulpe) was the ancient Greek astrological sign for Cancer.

The Sun sign Cancer starts June 22nd i.e. The first day of the Summer solstice.

the octopus could be a symbol for a specific place.

Greece, like the coin images?

narrow it down.

Thera - Santorini and the Minoans? Bulls and then Octopi?

http://library.sussex.tec.nj.us/minoan.htm

The discussion is about the octopus.

Could it actually be a squid?

(Afterall, the Greeks love their calamari.)

the coins i posted come from a specific place.

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/e ... ria/t.html ....?

Euboea/Eretria.

Obviously a Greek place that symbolised the Constellation Taurus and the Constellation Cancer.

Somewhere where Linear B was written.

If we run with IONIANS
then this maybe of interest
In the Book of Genesis[5] of the English Bible Javan is a son of Japheth. With regard to the tribal country-naming scheme of the Old Testament, in which the name of the country becomes an eponymous family founder, Javan is believed nearly universally by Bible scholars to represent the Ionians; that is, Javan is Ion. The Hebrew is Yāwān, plural Yəwānīm.[6]

Additionally but less surely Japheth may be related linguistically to the Greek mythological figure Iapetus

During the 6th century BC, Ionian coastal towns such as Miletus and Ephesus became the focus of a revolution in approaches to traditional thinking about Nature. Instead of explaining natural phenomena by recourse to traditional religion/myth, the cultural climate was such that men began to form hypotheses about the natural world based on ideas gained from both personal experience and deep reflection. These men - Thales and his successors - were called physiologoi, those who discoursed on Nature. They were sceptical of religious explanations for natural phenomena and instead sought purely mechanical and physical explanations. They are credited as being of critical importance to the development of the 'scientific attitude' towards the study of Nature.

And I must say we have Pythagoras
Pythagoras (circa 580BC-490BC) was from the island of Samos in the Aegean Sea off the coast of Ionia.


Pythagoras was also credited with devising the tetractys, the triangular figure of four rows, which add up to the perfect number, ten. As a mystical symbol, it was very important to the worship of the Pythagoreans, who would swear oaths by it:

And the inventions were so admirable, and so divinised by those who understood them, that the members used them as forms of oath: "By him who handed to our generation the tetractys, source of the roots of ever-flowing nature."
—Iamblichus, Vit. Pyth., 29
Pythagoras started a secret society called the Pythagorean brotherhood devoted to the study of mathematics. This had a great effect on future esoteric traditions, such as Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry, both of which were occult groups dedicated to the study of mathematics and both of which claimed to have evolved out of the Pythagorean brotherhood. The mystical and occult qualities of Pythagorean mathematics are discussed in a chapter of Manly P. Hall's The Secret Teachings of All Ages entitled "Pythagorean Mathematics"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras

Thanks everyone Sheila Hot Spur Roscoe Shasta Eginolf and Wayward Rennes Crimson Ghost and Sheila

Great info
Thanks

Beltane tomorrow



Music from the bagpipe Group MacUmba which literally translated means WITCHCRAFT.

Just a spring clean for the May Queen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHQ-QPixMSQ&feature=fvst


And 2011 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K12tr46q ... re=related

The eight-spoked solar wheel....just like an octopus.