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 Post subject: Re: Berenger Sauniere's Regalia some questions
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2012 1:51 am 
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An interesting fact is about the Bible
did the Cathars have earlier Bibles
and did not use the Vulgate

“The Bogomiles, possibly an offshoot from the Paulicians, were condemned as heretics and suffered great persecution...The Alibgenses rejected the Roman Church and esteemed the New Testament above all its traditions and ceremonies... Reineriou also falsely accused the Waldensians with Manicheanism. This Reinerius is probably the same persecutor employed by Pope Innocent III to hunt out the ‘heretical’ Waldenses and Cathari throughout southern France and northern Spain...” (Way of Life Literature, 1996, pp. 34, 36, 37)



Samuel Gipp, An Understandable History of the Bible:

“‘From Antioch…the Universal Text was sent up into Europe. From there is spread through Syria and Europe through its translation into the Syraic Peshitto version and the Old Latin Vulgate… The Old Latin Vulgate was used by the Christians in the churches of the Waldenses, Gauls, Celts, Albigenses, and other fundamental groups throughout Europe.” (p. 67)

William P. Grady, Final Authority:

“The first Latin translation of the Bible is known as the ‘Old Latin’ and was made no later than A.D. 157 for the young churches established throughout the Italian Alps. The fifty extant manuscripts of this version are classified by either of their eventual twofold areas of expanded circulation – Europe or Asia. Also referred to as the Itala Bible, this venerable witness was also closely allied with the Textus Receptus – a full century before the so-called Lucian Recension!

“Because of this we are not surprised to learn that the Roman Bishop Damascus commissioned Jerome to revive the ‘archaic’ Old Latin Bible in A.D. 382. As mentioned in chapter two, the completed monstrosity became known as the Latin ‘Vulgate’ (for received) and was used by the devil to usher in the Dark Ages.

“By contract and in the face of this romanish recension, true Latin-speaking believers continued to perpetuate their beloved Itala through the centuries. These readings were eventually preserved through a translation into sixteenth-century Italian by the reformer Diodati becoming the official Bible of the Albigensen and Waldensian assemblies. Satan’s wrath for this pure Alpine text was vividly confirmed by the blood which flowed through the otherwise peaceful valleys amidst repeated Catholic atrocities.” (pp. 35-6)

Floyd Jones, Ripped Out Of the Bible:

“…the ‘Traditional Text’…has been read and preserved by the Greek Orthodox Church throughout the centuries. From it came the Peshitta, the Italic, Celtic, Gallic, and Gothic Bibles, the medieval versions of the evangelical Waldenses and Albigenses, and other versions suppressed by Rome during the Middles Ages.” (p. 40)



Jack Moorman, Forever Settled:

“Ruckman, quoting ISBE says, ‘The Albigenses continued to use the Old Latin long after Jerome’s Vulgate came out and their preservation of this text is attributed (according to Burkitt) to the fact that they were ‘heretics’.’

“As Rome did not send any missionaries toward the West before 250 AD, the early Latin Bibles were well established before these churches came into conflict with Rome. Not only were such translations in existence long before the Vulgate was adopted by the Papacy, and well established, but the people for centuries refused to supplant their old Latin Bibles by the Vulgate. ‘The Old Latin versions were used longest by the western Christians who would not bow to the authority of Rome - e.g., the Donatists; the Irish in Ireland, Britain, and the Continent; the Albigenses, etc.’

“And as there were really only two Bibles - the official version of Rome, and the Received Text - we may safely conclude that the Gallic (or French) Bible, as well as the Celtic (or British), were based on the Received Text. Neander claims that the first Christianity in England, came not from Rome, but from Asia Minor, probably through France... That the messengers of God who carried manuscripts from the churches of Judea to the churches of northern Italy and on, brought to the forerunners of the Waldenses a Bible different from the Bible of Roman Catholicism…” (pp. 86, 107)

http://watch.pair.com/TR-13-albigenses-cathari.html
They needed to destroy the earlier bibles
what was in them that scared the Vatican

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 Post subject: Re: Berenger Sauniere's Regalia some questions
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The Lost Gospels
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 Post subject: Re: Berenger Sauniere's Regalia some questions
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Sauniere's regalia from Nics Picture
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Visigoth Pillar
http://thenummo.com/images/visigothic2.jpg

Both sides top design of the Pillar


seems to appear but hard to tell in Sauniere's regalia
because the silver reflects the light of the camera

He has a Serpentine design on his cloth that he puts around his neck
The two serpentine designs make a cross at the bottom ...
A dark silver over a light silver makes the strange serpentine cross

Serpentine cross has its connection with Moses and Mount Nebo and the
Brazen Serpent
The Serpentine design
Book of Kells
http://globalcitizenblog.com/wp-content/uploads/globalcitizen/book_of_kells.jpg

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