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In the new e-book by Patrice Chaplin, it is said that Sauniere raises a man from the dead. I suggest that

for the movie version, the director include the Crista!

Not only Blythe Beige but also Patty Chappy is busy reading Andrew's forum and is picking out the strangest thoughts.

so does poor deluded senile old Jake/John/Phil by all accounts
apparantly he is continuing this thread on another forum, quite sad when you think how much he hated the subject.....like a dog returning to its vomit

HELLO JOHN PMSL

WTH is this thread about, read the first few pages and it must be in invisible ink. Can anyone succinctly define the C controversy pls?

It’s basically about the existence of a controversial object (Merovingian Crista) written about by a French historian called Anne Lombard Jordan

Actually Sonar, it was a thread started about the controversy caused as a result of the efforts by various Forum members
who attempted to lead a discussion about a so-called object of great antiquity allegedly wielded by Sauniere.
Despite countless hours of posting and debate no evidence was ever offered for its existence in the late 19thc.

Several threads were started and closed, some were even deleted as those involved withdrew from the Forum taking their toys with them and repenting of their comments. Jourdan was mentioned regularly, but its fair to say that she was not involved in the very heavy promotion of the idea on this Forum.
It was rumoured to have been a bit of product placement to help the launch of The Rise by Isaac Ben Jacob who now runs his own, largely substance free web Forum. There was even a suggestion that the discussion was a spoiler to head off a second book which would have dealt, explicitly, with the object.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2732

This is one of the threads that survived the resultant shredding................

Make of it what you will...........As the original promotor is 'Definitely not here' any more its probably best to let it lie

Does that help?

TD

Sonar, You will also find that whenever the crista or Crest as I prefer to call it is mentioned, TD will appear like magic, like a jack in the box
Oh, and Roscoe will blow a gasket

C'est assez amusant, il s'agit d'une petite clique qui s'inspire du film "Lolita malgre moi" ("Mean Girls", en Anglais), et qui tres souvent n'a rien de mieux a faire que de deformer les propos de ceux/celles qu'elles attaquent, de mentir au sujet d'evenements ou d'inventer des motifs fantaisistes a des gens qui ne sont pas presents.

Ce n'est que la fange a laquelle il faut s'attendre, a chaque fois qu'on s'aventure sur la toile.

My most recent article on the Staff of Moses (in French) is available on my website, in two parts.

http://isaacbenjacob.com/#/du-baton-de-moise-i/4565023969

http://isaacbenjacob.com/#/du-baton-de-moise-ii/4565047421

Sonar,
Speaking of appearing at the mention of the C word, it looks like the Gang's all here, all we need is one more for a Royal Flush!
As you can see, its a touchy subject to some! You'll notice that no one has challenged my 'succinct' definition !

TD

Excellent, I googled Jordan and Merovingian Crista yesterday and came up with nothing. Good explanation thanks. Will look into it and make my own verdict, in private if that is more politic.

I liked this google translate of Tertius - "Only the mud which was to be expected, every time we ventured onto the canvas".

Try on Google: "Crista of Constantine" - Images.

Also, this board has an internal search function, but hold onto your hat.

But 'Fred the Shred' is an infant compared to some here.
It's mostly been filleted and sanitised!

It's a shame no one cut and pasted it all for posterity!

TD

I did, and printed it up as well.

Also look under "The History of the Golden Cross of Toledo" by Isaac Ben Jacob.



Toledo, Spain by El Greco.

I had no idea it had been so much until looking just now.
At least even Roscoe threads can be informative, fun and entertaining at times.
The others were often painful and had much to do with my losing interest here.

So then, the corpse shall be resurrected?

Sonar, Renne is trying to direct you to the numerous articles she has written.

From a Sumerian site - a "decorative wheel"?



They compare the "decorative wheel" to this design on the balcony of the Pope.

"The History of the Golden Cross of Toledo" is the main Crista article and is by IBJ, my article

attempts to summarize it somewhat and adds some other ideas. To see an image of the Crista,

see the Crista of Constantine on Images - the image is not in either of the articles since it is copyrighted.

Perhaps I missed the point, but having waded through some of these references in French and English I feel like I just returned from Wonderland. Were they wildly tangential tracts that do not seem to make any cohesive argument about anything of significance?
Someone really needs to bulletpoint the arguments main points if there are any, give some indication as to their relevance to anything today, and provide better references imo.
Too much chatter dilutes the thrust and generally made me tune out I'm afraid. After a couple hours scanning between work tasks I only gathered something about Orpheus going some place tolearn about reincarnation or spiritual growth and the old testament being on the same page, and the Fleur de Lys being connected to multiple connotations (leaving one confused about how it ties into anything), and that some alleged relic ? related to the Fleur De Lys that is made of gold gave authority to a string of rulers, and somehow linked them right back to ?Moses.
It's like the Crista field is a vacuum cleaner for sucking in and incorporating many random disparate ideas and for joining dots between things that likely bear little relation.
First impressions, but I can't say I strained my brain trying to piece it together.
My brother is a very bright autistic geologist and is quite capable of waxing lyrical for a thousand pages about a shard of rock, these writings reminded me of that predisposition towards finding a world in a microcosm.

Nice pics Renne, maybe I'll get it if you can summarise using the KISS principle the jist of what it is that you and Ben advocate. Yes I am asking you to dumb it down for me!!

Renne, why would a "decorative wheel" from ancient Sumer have an Alpha and Omega symbol at its center? In Greek characters, no less?

TCP

At the risk of sounding trite, your grasp is perfect. No one else saw anything logical, sensible, or relevant in the topic either. And because of it, the primary promoter now punishes us by posting exclusively in French. It's tiresome.

TCP

Very well summed up, the both of you. I could be entirely wrong, but I believe Isaac was the original promoter who was in need of some assistance, and sought out "he who posts exclusively in French".

Especially when it's from the Canvas!
(Fill in your own Boxing metaphors, if you will!)

TD