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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012 3:35 am 
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Renne wrote:
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Here is the classic RLC design photographed by IBJ. Is IBJ`s name the source of Roscoe`s

objections?

Compare the above painting to the Crista illustrated on the heading page 1 of this thread.

It`s a bit embellished. Thank you Rain.

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The Crista, it is just as it has been described with the serpent of Moses and the wings of fire.


Please tell me there's more to it than this?

Have we had to endure the machinations of IBJ (Itinerant Bandwagon Jockey) for all this time and THIS is all you have to warrant you swamping the entire Rennes le Chateau section with three years of utter drivel?

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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012 8:20 am 
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Like I said, Groundhog day!

As I said ... you never said anything of relevance ... concerning the item RLC ... :lol:


Thought you had me on ignore...................... :lol:

Like I said, groundhog day!

TD :lol: :lol:

The point that I was trying to make was a question of utility.
The subject has been endlessly rehearsed and dissected here and unless the proponents of the Crista
are fnally going to start providing hard, verifiable evidence then its not clear what the point of another new
Forum is?
The challenge is for them to prove their relevance to RLC or the new Forum will suffer the same fate as the last.
Is that clear enough for you mein Herr? PM me if you're still struggling to keep up or the language is eluding you.
Anything I can do to help you only have to ask!

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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
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Thomas D. wrote:
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Thomas D. wrote:
Like I said, Groundhog day!

As I said ... you never said anything of relevance ... concerning the item RLC ... :lol:


Thought you had me on ignore...................... :lol:

Like I said, groundhog day!

TD :lol: :lol:

I still have. But you know ... once in a while ... as it is with christmas ... I get some hope ... that you might change.
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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
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Re-posted from above...............


The point that I was trying to make was a question of utility.
The subject has been endlessly rehearsed and dissected here and unless the proponents of the Crista
are fnally going to start providing hard, verifiable evidence then its not clear what the point of another new
Forum is?
The challenge is for them to prove their relevance to RLC or the new Forum will suffer the same fate as the last.
Is that clear enough for you mein Herr? PM me if you're still struggling to keep up or the language is eluding you.
Anything I can do to help you only have to ask!


Glad to see you're still reading my occasional imput despite your pretence of indifference!
Saying one thing but doing another is fairly common behavior here! :lol: :lol:
Naturally, I forgive you! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Utility?
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T.D., do you mean by "utility" what is that the Crista can do?

Are you "Richard Paul"?

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 Post subject: Re: Utility?
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Renne wrote:
T.D., do you mean by "utility" what is that the Crista can do?

Are you "Richard Paul"?


:lol: :lol:
Bless you, Renne no I'm not Richard Paul, Who is he?

By 'utility' I mean what's the point of another Forum unless it will finally place all Crista facts in the public domaine.
Otherwise it will be merely another attempt to control the discourse whilst disclosing nothing.

Maybe Crow could tell us whether it is, finally 'show and tell time' ?

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 Post subject: Re: Utility?
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Renne wrote:
T.D., do you mean by "utility" what is that the Crista can do?

Are you "Richard Paul"?


I don't think Thomas is Richard Paul - but do you know if anyone has found who he is, yet?

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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
PostPosted: 26 Feb 2012 4:37 pm 
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Crow wrote:
You'll be happy to hear that Isaac has a forum now that can accessed via his homepage at http://isaacbenjacob.com/ or via the link here http://isaacbenjacob.freeforums.org/. Registration is quick and easy, feel free to have a look and join if you want to.

Bear in mind Roscoe that everyone's research is valid. You may not agree with Isaac's theories but i see little point in berating him at every opportunity. You have said yourself that you've never read his books so i'm a little confused as to why you find him and his work so threatening. Does seem a little odd. I realise you probably won't want to join, but if you do you'll be very welcome.

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The forum seems to be locked now Crow, are we no longer allowed to look as per your invitation?
Can you clarify whether we will be seeing anything that will stand up as verifiable evidence as to the existence
of the Crista, whether BS actually had 'IT' and what it is or will we be treated to more smoke and mirrors?

You seemed quite keen to trumpet this a few days ago, I'm sure we would all welcome clarification!

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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
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roscoe wrote:
You know Patrice Chaplin's theories are at least backed up by hard evidence.


Some of which is only hard evidence for clumsy fabrication. Funny how quiet it gets when those details are brought up.

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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
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Thomas D. wrote:
The point that I was trying to make was a question of utility.
The subject has been endlessly rehearsed and dissected here and unless the proponents of the Crista are fnally going to start providing hard, verifiable evidence then its not clear what the point of another new Forum is?


If past history provides any insight, it is usually to isolate and control the discussion when a topic doesn't pass the scrutiny test in more comprehensive fora.

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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
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TCP wrote:
Thomas D. wrote:
The point that I was trying to make was a question of utility.
The subject has been endlessly rehearsed and dissected here and unless the proponents of the Crista are fnally going to start providing hard, verifiable evidence then its not clear what the point of another new Forum is?


If past history provides any insight, it is usually to isolate and control the discussion when a topic doesn't pass the scrutiny test in more comprehensive fora.

TCP


Admittedly, it's not an auspicious start !
I'm hoping that Crow will allay these fears!
After all the flim-flam its time for the 'Show and tell'!
Where's your money Tim?

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PostPosted: 26 Feb 2012 11:42 pm 
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Hi Rain, "Richard Paul" is the Facebook persona who launched the Loch Ness attack on Ben Hammott.

He comes across like so many skeptics on this forum do, with that same deprecating slanderous accusatory style.

Perhaps he is a professional (agent), perhaps he is freelance. As all skeptics, he is trying to achieve fame by attacking

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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
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TD, for someone so sceptical you do seem to be extremely interested in this. Fears?? Crikey, i didn't realise this cut so deep...brown paper bag? :wink:


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but let others have a look in, eh? Everyones opinion is valid.



WHAT?

Are you thick or what?

Take a look at the number of postings on this thread. It numbers more than the entire Cathars section...

I cannot tolerate this terminal drivel any more.

This subject will not be discussed on here ever again. I'll see to that.

And all I'll do is post stuff that's relevant to the subject called Rennes le Chateau.


You know i can picture you sitting alone in the darkness lit by the eerie glow of your computer screen. The anonymity that cyberspace provides must also come as a huge relief to one who has no doubt been smacked in the gob countless times - how many teeth have you got left now? I do hope you'll be at Shugborough on the 19th May Roscoe. Seriously. I'm really looking forward to meeting you.

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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
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Crow wrote:

I cannot tolerate this terminal drivel any more.

This subject will not be discussed on here ever again. I'll see to that.



You know i can picture you sitting alone in the darkness lit by the eerie glow of your computer screen. The anonymity that cyberspace provides must also come as a huge relief to one who has no doubt been smacked in the gob countless times - how many teeth have you got left now? I do hope you'll be at Shugborough on the 19th May Roscoe. Seriously. I'm really looking forward to meeting you.[/quote]



The anonymity of cyberspace creates a different personality then a personal meeting. I doubt if "Roscoe" has ever said anything in person to anybody that would account for him being "smacked in the gob", as you say Crow. (btw, you english have strange sayings :) ) Well perhaps he might have when he was young and didn't know any better. My beer bet would be that if Roscoe did show up at Shugborough you would not know it, at least that is MHO.

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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
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I've noticed a distinct difference between online personas and their real life counterparts. Roscoe will be no different, and no doubt you're right Wayward - if he did show up, no one would even notice he's there.

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 Post subject: Re: RLC
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Renne wrote:
Hi Rain, "Richard Paul" is the Facebook persona who launched the Loch Ness attack on Ben Hammott.

He comes across like so many skeptics on this forum do, with that same deprecating slanderous accusatory style.

Perhaps he is a professional (agent), perhaps he is freelance. As all skeptics, he is trying to achieve fame by attacking

the projects of others.


Thanks Renne, I don't belong to Facebook - so I don't really understand the in's and out's - I guess I'm too sensitive as to what can happen, such as things like that.

I thought from the description(on the other thread) he sounded like someone on here from way back - but it was just a guess.

He does sound like a bit of a James Randi type.

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 Post subject: Re: Crista Controversy?
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TD, for someone so sceptical you do seem to be extremely interested in this. Fears?? Crikey, i didn't realise this cut so deep...brown paper bag? :wink:


Sceptical, Moi? :lol:
Tim was on the money as usual with his comments about RLC Masters and attempts to control the discourse.
Having trumpeted the launch of a 'new' forum about the Crista it might have been an idea to have distanced yourself from previous, discredited initiatives and those involved with them.
The subject of the Crista has been done to death around here without any hard, verifiable proof of its existence then or now ever having been produced.
The 'Dance of the Seven Veils' can only go on so long........................
If the New Forum isn't going to actually produce the cold hard facts then what's the point?
It's disappointing to see that you're already back tracking and the Forum appears to have been locked to casual visitors.
After all, maybe the distance between IBJ and Voldemort isn't as large as is claimed and this is merely another repackaging of the same old tosh? :wink:

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You're welcome to register TD it's hardly Alcatraz. What part did you find difficult? Mentioning it after one of Roscoe's outbursts hardly constitutes trumpeting, and again, i reiterate, i made a post about a forum, no mention was made about the Crista, i suggest you re-look at my original post. If you needed clarification on this subject, why haven't you emailed Isaac? You also had the opportunity to speak with him directly at any of the past three RG meetings (i'm led to believe you were present at at least one) something you didn't avail yourself of. Maybe one to one discussions aren't your thing, lack of audience?

You've made your views on the necessity of a new forum a couple of times now, so no need to labour the point. If you don't feel it has any value for you, no problem, just ignore it. Although i do find your level of interest in something you don't believe in odd. Very odd...


Here's a lovely photo i took in Normandy over the weekend. Beautiful detailing here, it surrounds the grille of a Black Madonna and serves as a repository for prayer requests. Thought some of you guys might like it.

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Thomas D. wrote:
The 'Dance of the Seven Veils' can only go on so long........................




And we know how that ended!

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PostPosted: 27 Feb 2012 1:36 pm 
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You're welcome to register TD it's hardly Alcatraz. What part did you find difficult? Mentioning it after one of Roscoe's outbursts hardly constitutes trumpeting, and again, i reiterate, i made a post about a forum, no mention was made about the Crista, i suggest you re-look at my original post. If you needed clarification on this subject, why haven't you emailed Isaac? You also had the opportunity to speak with him directly at any of the past three RG meetings (i'm led to believe you were present at at least one) something you didn't avail yourself of. Maybe one to one discussions aren't your thing, lack of audience?

You've made your views on the necessity of a new forum a couple of times now, so no need to labour the point. If you don't feel it has any value for you, no problem, just ignore it. Although i do find your level of interest in something you don't believe in odd. Very odd...


Wow! Touchy, huh? :shock:
I can understand why you're keen to dampen down expectations about the new Forum.

Alcatraz? :lol: The new forum has already become less accessible within less than a week! Doesn't augur well for the future, does it?
Lets hope it doesn't end up like the prison, a hollow rotting shell no longer fit for purpose, but the former home of the Mad, Bad and dangerous to know ! :lol:

I'm not sure that I've expressed any views on the new Forum however your hesitation in taking this opportunity to put clear blue water between IBJ and former associates is quite telling!
Some might see it as proof that there is no substance to it all. :roll:

With regards to talking to 'IBJ' he's always managed to use a poor grasp of English to avoid answering direct questions. At the last RG Group there wasn't much opportunity to talk as he spent most of the meeting entwined with you in a charming if a slightly gauche, adolescent public display of passion. :oops:

The good news is that, I would imagine, the level of interest in this new initiative will be falling rapidly as there appears to be little prospect of proof forthcoming.
It's not about believing in anything!

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With regards to talking to 'IBJ' he's always managed to use a poor grasp of English to avoid answering direct questions. At the last RG Group there wasn't much opportunity to talk as he spent most of the meeting entwined with you in a charming if a slightly gauche, adolescent public display of passion.


Now isn't that strange, other people managed to have a nice chat with him but you somehow managed to blend in with the background TD. Confronted with the very man whose theories you disapprove of so wholeheartedly and not a dickie bird from you. Coward. :mrgreen:

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With regards to talking to 'IBJ' he's always managed to use a poor grasp of English to avoid answering direct questions. At the last RG Group there wasn't much opportunity to talk as he spent most of the meeting entwined with you in a charming if a slightly gauche, adolescent public display of passion.


Now isn't that strange, other people managed to have a nice chat with him but you somehow managed to blend in with the background TD. Confronted with the very man whose theories you disapprove of so wholeheartedly and not a dickie bird from you. Coward. :mrgreen:



Well done Crow! You've managed to slip into name-calling so quickly!
It's always important to keep one's dignity don't you think ? :lol:
The 'Dark Lord' himself was always first to abuse, its a sign of a weak argument. :lol: :lol:

If you have read anything I've posted over the last few years in connection with the Crista then you will know that
all I've suggested is that theories are all very well but verifiable proof is required at some point.

Not sure where you got the idea that I 'disapprove so wholeheartedly' of either the man or his theories?
But after almost four years of this 'nudge-nudge wink-wink' approach its a worked-out seam.

It's the law of diminishing returns, sooner or later its 'Show and Tell' time!
Given the opportunity to advance your case by laying out an argument on someone else's platform you've
merely resorted to abuse which rather suggests there's no substance to the 'theories' after all. :oops:

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Aw, thanks for the compliment, i was wondering when i'd get a smilie and an extra few exclamation marks - get in!

'Show and tell'? You had the unique opportunity to talk to the man himself TD but you went out of your way to avoid him. Not only this but there were two interpreters in the room in addition to the many at the RG who were bilingual - you wouldn't have had a problem communicating. I still find it incongruous that you were sitting in the same room as Isaac yet you never once made the effort to introduce yourself, let alone question him. I think you've earned that nickname, don't you?

Do make yourself known to us next time won't you TD? We wouldn't want to miss you - like last time.

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