Arcadia Discussion Zone

Well Quartz is the second most abundant mineral after Feldspar. So there'll be a lot of confused snakes about and virtually no place for them to hide if you think it affects them.

No it ain't the quartz that attracts them.

so what do you reckon Roscoe?

I do not have a Scooby Doo, I can only report on observation at the moment.

All I know is that people several thousand years ago saw fit transport very large stones several miles in order to place them on a specific spot even though they had local stones of a different makeup readily available. Please nobody give me the Stonehenge bluestone glaciation theory, I'm speaking of other examples.

The grotto at Rennes le Chateau is now fundamentally different from what it was in the 1970s. But yes the stones come from around there. These same stones can also be seen at the grotto at Campagne les Bains.

Yes, i'll go with a specific type of stone being needed, certain stones for certain jobs.
Remember years back i talked about the huge sand filled cavities inside the great pyramid...not just any sand, a specific sand found only at a certain place along the red sea...thousands of miles away from the Giza plateau....same question applies here i reckon.

I'll try & find my notes.

As to Saunière's stones, they were apparently collected in the valley de Bals, south of the village where the 'ruisseau de Couleurs' flows....lot's of grottes and entrances to mine workings there i assume.

Grotto at Campagne les Bains

lovely cool photos...thank you.

In September of 1986, Dormion and Goidin returned to Egypt and began a microgravimeter survey within the Great Pyramid. In the Relieving Chambers, the tests were not conclusive, though they did seem to find some kind of anomaly. Other readings also appear to have indicated the existence of a cavity behind the west wall of the Queen's Chamber passage, just as they had earlier predicted.
The French team were given permission to drill three small holes in the wall, which can still be seen at the base today, plugged by metal caps. The first hole was drilled at a 35 degree angle, and revealed only several blocks of stone separated by mortar. The second hole was bored at 40 degrees, with the same results. The final hole, which was drilled to a depth of 2.65 meters, revealed a cavity filled with sand of a very fine quality. Essentially, their investigation had revealed little of any substance, though they vowed to return in order to perform more sophisticated surveys. However, before they could do so, in January of 1987, a Japanese team from Waseda University under the direction of Sakuji Yoshimura beat them to it. The Japanese archaeologists, out of the Egyptian Culture Center at the Tokyo-based Waseda University, conducted their project under the name, Pyramid Investigation Mission. They followed up on the French team's finding with the use of GPR equipment during their first visit between January 22nd and February 9th, and also conducted surveys within the Sphinx enclosure. They returned for a second visit between September 12th and the 23rd, basically repeating the same surveys but with improved equipment and techniques. The Japanese used their GPR equipment to survey the floors and walls of the Queen's Chamber, which resulted in an indicated presence of a cavity about three meters behind the north wall. Next, they moved their equipment into the passage itself, where they surveyed the entire length of the west wall, which indicated that the cavity was perhaps a concealed passageway running parallel to the horizontal passage. Their report, in part, stated that: "This newly discovered passage starts from a point only one block's width away from the northern wall of the Queen's Chamber. The reflection ends at a point approximately 30m north of the Queen's Chamber. Therefore the passage is thought to come to an end here or turn west at a right angle." The Japanese team also believed that they detected what appeared to be a cavity beneath the floor of the horizontal passage about 1.5 meters below its surface. They believed this cavity might be as much as three meters deep and that it was probably filled with sand. The sand became an issue with many alternative thinkers. Many rumors about the sand surfaced, including that it was radioactive. This was not true, but when the Japanese team examined the sand and compared it to samples in the Giza and Saqqara area, they found that is differed considerably from that material. Apparently, the sand may have been brought in from some distance. Though Egyptologists believe that the Great Pyramid builders may have used sand filled cavities to buffer the effects of earthquakes, this does not explain why local sand could not have been used.

Now i remember posting up loads of information about the wadi that this sand had come from and i'm sure it had a specific mineral content and yes it was found to radioactive and high in Antimony??...can't remember.

ah, i remember, it was a broad belt of sand, called the Debbet-er-Ramleh...at El-Tur, on the Sinai peninsula.....and it was an extremely fine sand heavy in Arsenic....and lots of other stuff peculiar because it was like a long list of constituents of what you get left over after gold extraction. Antimony has been used in gold extraction & purification for thousands of years, and when gold is removed Arsenic is left behind....list of sand mineral content.

Pb - Lead
Sn - Tin
Cd - Cadmium
Sb - Antimony
As - Arsenic
Th -Thorium
U - Uranium
Mo - Molybdenum
Se - Selenium



Way off topic, sorry guys.

talking of Saunière's grotto...i wonder what the original colour of the domed roof had been....?

I remember something about the sand being of the consistency that it flows easily (like a egg timer), this is so they can seal the pyramid by lowering the stones in a controlled manner using this sand leaking from one chamber to another.

I am puzzled by the fascination with snakes in a topic discussing a Church on a hilltop in Switzerland. Roscoe asked how St patrick got rid of snakes from Ireland, when Roscoe oughta know Patrick drove druidic elements associated with the Tribe of Dan, Tuathae Danae from Ireland. They ended up in Scandinavia, and came back with a vengeance as Vikings.

Vikings had snake/dragon motifs all over the place where ever they went. Look at the serpentine manner they wrote their runes. Roscoe oughta know Tribe of Dan was compared to serpents.

But this don't explain how snakes are connected to a Church on a hilltop, unless the Tribe of Dan or druids slithered into that place.

.....we were talking about snake-infested Mons Vaticanus if i recall, which got us onto dragons.

denotes the Tribe of Dan.

Druids? I'm not so sure.

Can't remember without looking how we got onto snakes but you know snakes slough their skin, they seem to an observer that they have the power of rebirth. The tag of wisdom of course comes from Eve. The snake said if you eat from the tree then you'll release yourself from the Malthusian existence. A wise move indeed.

Now I remember Vatican, Vates and the Cromlech del Piccolo San Bernado

And the pagan symbol in St Peters square.

Yes Thinking for oneself is much better than having a man in frock doing the thinking for you.

Speaking of Dragons here is the thread on Liguria?

Here's the Ligurian flag.



HERACLES IN LIGURIA The great hero was said to have been placed amongst the stars in the shape of kneeling man, as a memorial of his desperate battle with the Ligurians, whom he encountered on his return trip to Greece with the cattle of Geryon. (Hyginus 2.6 on Euripides) 12th Labour

The slane Dragon was called Ladon, which is a river that flows through Arcadia.

Sorry I posted the wrong image.

This one

http://www.storiadimilano.it/arte/nergal.jpg
"el dios Negal, Hatra, Iraz"

above picture found here:
http://www.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=nin ... 07&bih=464

sorry...

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Thorstein, drivin' them to the sea to get on boats to leave Ireland would fit that description, yes? I have mot read the book of armagh so I don't know how the 'snakes' were described.

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Yes, either another thread or keep on going...personally i think a thread should be long and entangled

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Since Sheila knows the music biz inside out and she sez she likes thing complicated, this link is what I can imagine applies here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnqj31VP ... re=related