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Yes it was a bit of a deja vu with the pictures of the La Serpent Rouge book and the Servite of Mary pictures
I have seen those before on the thread actually on many threads

I just didn't know about the Toledo Cross and I had not read about the Persephone Ceres connection

that is a power object to secure the kings position that he is king
well I may disagree on that with Renne

Can you find the Power Object? My article is a summary for those

who are interested. If you disagree with the description, then you

did not see the illustration. The Crista confirms kingship, ask anyone.

Saell Thorstein, greetings from Sweden. I read what Renne posted and she did a better job of putting it into perspective than all of the hum-haw maybe posts on the topic so far. She managed to capsulate that which has been slowly dis-mis-info leaked, red herring style... just like the run up to the publishing of THe Rise book.

It is just a repeat of The Rise hype.

From your perspective in Iceland where much of the myth that entered the Anglo world was written down in a precursor language to Anglo, how much has been distorted?

Here in Sweden the scholars bemoan the lack of continuity with olde Norse. My son has taken several Icelandic courses at Lund U and feels very comfortable with it. Unfortunately there were not 'nuff students interested in Icelandic to delve into the runic structure of the sagas. My son then went on to Irish Gaelic as a continuing subject, along with Latin.

I look forward to your inputs from the linguistic side of the crista enigma.

Renne do ya have a link to that illustration so that I can see it in larger scale?

Thank you Hugo, here is the photo of the RLC Crista fresco from IBJ`s

Forum article. As for the Toledo version, drawing bejeweled artifacts is what I do,

but I don`t want to step on any toes.

Well I hate to say this but that picture you got there Renne
looks like me getting ready for a garage sale

Oh one more thing
there are other Arcadians who have written for UFO digest
they have over 4 million readership

and it is not just Renne and myself
their are others who have

That article that Renne has messed around with was plagerised from here Lov....It is the article at the beginning of this thread written by IBJ and translated by Sheila
That is not Rennes work, she has copied from the article and added bits to it that are completely untrue....i suppose thats ok in your eyes though eh?

you are shameless
Go on Renne, tell me how the Crista confirms kingship?
you should know cos you have written an article about it on the internet

you are an idiot!

yes please Renne....i cant wait to see this
Bring it on.......

Tingra,
You think its all her own work ?
The syntax has a feel of the 'Palaeologoi' to it.
TD

no its not her own work, she had used the article from here and re written it, she has also added bits that are completely untrue......she is clueless

And?....your point is?

I find it sad that it is necessary to obviate the obvious, but "The Rise" makes absolutely no mention of the crista. So calling it a re-hash of the "Rise hype" shows even less reading comprehension than we've become accustomed to in these fora.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronography_of_354


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:07_co ... ono354.png


http://www.jstor.org/pss/25487306

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Hello Roger,
'Quells' at the ready ?

This is quite a remarkable post which may have passed many by, not least for its heady whiff of the attar of Patrician 'Nobilesse Oblige' !
It raises many questions which might be answered to clear the air!

Did you really think that by introducing this subject into this bearpit of a public forum you could maintain control of the discussion ?

Are only those who submit themselves to your course of study deemed worthy to participate, having undergone the initiatory process?

Your comments about both TCP and IBJ both being right in very narrowly focussed aspects and the right you claim to officiate over the more 'egregious errors' suggest most strongly, that you are in full posession of a comprehensive overview the facts of this subject.

Would you care to comment on the above?

I accept that you've never been slow to employ the 'raillerie' that you warn others of but I'm sure that many will benefit if you could clarify where you stand.

Kindest regards,

TD

I don't really see a need to, Thos.
If I did, I suppose I would.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barberini
bees?

Fair Comment.
Under what circumstances might you see a need to ?

TD

oh dear....i can visualise Hugo now stomping on the keyboard 5o miles an hour with steam coming out of his ears

...

Thos., I didn't really introduce the topic. It was, to my great chagrin, let loose upon the public elsewhere, and I knew from long observation that it would immediately be appropriated by the more unscrupulous of the esoterically-inclined fauna... I simply thought it might provide perspective to provide some simple input that the more intelligent people with the gumption to dig for themselves could take in order to reconstruct certain facts.

Beyond that, I have no interest in revealing all. I simply find it dangerous to allow too much disinformation on a topic I have already said I find dangerous and that is somewhat disgusting to me.

As you well know, I have answered some questions that were put to me in private, and I may or not continue to do so, although I feel that there's enough out there for the brighter ones to get where they're going and to avoid the more grotesque disinformation.

I certainly don't feel I owe anyone anything, do you??

renne...simply, taking something that is NOT of you...or NOT your's is stealing.
you have shown yourself time and again to be not trust-worthy.
i am so NOT impressed with your work.

Let's see if I got this one right. School teachers all over the globe ask students to read an Encyclopedia article, then put it in their own words. I see no difference in what Renne wrote than what any school student would create. The 'facts' as she presented them are not owned by any buddy, are they?

IBJ ain't the originator of this crista info is he?, where did he copy his info from? Sheila never once cited a reference IBJ used.

Then when Tom D asked Roger, is his own fashion, as to why he is playin' gatekeeper, Roger did a 'Pilate' routine and washed his hands, so to speak, to distance himself.

I made a comparison to all of this red-herring crista biz to the red-herring The Rise biz, the parallels are there rather vividly. I made an ergo leap here to assume a sequel to The Rise was in the works, 'cuz a talisman with supposedly power to raise folk from the dead, ala a zombie-voodoo ritual I guess, is most likely what Roger finds revolting, only Roger has an inkling into what he confabulates.

The Rise was based 'pon similar antiquated precedents just like the crista, IMHO, yet, Roger sez there ain't no link, ... uh... like in playin' with the soul of the dead, maybe. The more Roger responds in the fashion he does explains to me why all of the Italians I know refer to the French as cretins. Roger is a glaring example of what the Italians experience in their day to day contact with their Med neighbors.

How does ye oldes ayin' go... ya can always tell a Frenchman, 'cuz ya can't tell him any 'thang'. The more the crista gets discussed the closer it gets to becomin' the fabled pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. Why do ya think Roger is in the gold biz folks?

IBJ ain't the originator of this crista info is he?,

Yes he is.

No-one was talking about it before IBJ began to publish about it. To say anything differently is patently false.

And what Renne has done is out of order. Totally out of order.