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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 5:42 pm 
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Si vous en avez discuter comme vous dite .

Répondez simplement à la question ! .

Ou ce trouvais la " crista " avant d'être à st denis .

Et n'oubliez pas les références historiques précis , sans faire de supposition .

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 5:52 pm 
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williams wrote:
Si vous en avez discuter comme vous dite .

Répondez simplement à la question ! .

Ou ce trouvais la " crista " avant d'être à st denis .

Et n'oubliez pas les références historiques précis , sans faire de supposition .

Williams Q


No williams, it aint gonna happen :lol: your wasting your time here :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 5:54 pm 
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Ce n'est pas à vous que je m'adressait , mais à Roger .

Vous aussi vous êtes son caniche .

Et puis vous ne réfléchissez pas beaucoup .

Vous croyez vraiment que isaac continurais à être en relation avec moi , si il pensais ce que vous pensez sur moi .

C'est vraiment le prendre pour un idiot .

Vous ne regarder que les apparences , sans vraiment connaitre les gens .

Vous ne savez rien de moi .

Mis à part retenir que je suis sur le forum Douzet , vous ne voyez que ça comme une obsession.

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 5:56 pm 
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woof woof :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 7:52 pm 
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:mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj1zvM33 ... re=related

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 8:20 pm 
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What's with Williams and his jabberwock? At least Rain makes a valiant effort to get a handle on his gibberish, ala babelfish.

If Tingra ain't impressed with a Frenchman delvin' into a French enigma, why is he pursin' this particular approach?

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 8:21 pm 
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Jake, what you need to do on your Mac is this.
Open a new window in Safari (or the browser you use ).
Go to this link :-
http://translate.google.com/
Select translate from French to English
Highlight the french text on Arcadia by selecting around it with the mouse, either go to the edit menu and click Copy, or hold "Ctrl" and click with the mouse and select Copy.
Then go back to the google translate page, click in the text box and either go to the edit menu and click Paste, or hold "Ctrl" and click with the mouse and select Paste.
Sorry for hijacking the thread people.
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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 9:06 pm 
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Hugo Furst wrote:

If Tingra ain't impressed with a Frenchman delvin' into a French enigma, why is he pursin' this particular approach?


I am not impressed cos i know who he is and why he is doing it.
And lets face it, he wasnt very subtle was he? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 10:34 pm 
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Tingra, when ya said woof woof, is that supposed to be a hint at who this poodle lap dog is?

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 10:43 pm 
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Hugo Furst wrote:
Tingra, when ya said woof woof, is that supposed to be a hint at who this poodle lap dog is?


no i was barking at him cos he called me a poodle :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 10:43 pm 
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williams wrote:
Merci du compliment roger .
N'oubliez pas que il y à quelques années vous avez vous aussi travailler avec Douzet .

Et essayer de rester poli , me traiter de caniche c'est limite diffamatoire .

Vous ne faite rien , mis à part faire travailler les autres .

Vous ne donnez rien Sauf les travaux que isaac vous communiques .

Rien ne prouve que vous savez d'ailleurs ! .

Par exemple , dite moi ou ce trouvait la crista juste avant d'être à st denis .
Si vous avez travaillez sérieusement sur le dossier "crista" vous devez le savoir .

Moi oui , allez on vous attend , c'est mieux que d'insulter les gens .

Williams Q


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Thanks for the compliment roger.
Remember that it y in a few years you you also work with D.

And try to remain polite, treat me of poodle is defamatory limit.

You made nothing, aside from doing other work.

You don't give anything except work that isaac you communicate.

There is no evidence that you know indeed!.

For example, called me or what was the crista just prior to being at st denis.
If you are seriously working on "crista" folder you need to know.

Me Yes, will expected you, it is better to insult people.

Q Williams

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 10:45 pm 
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williams wrote:
Si vous en avez discuter comme vous dite .

Répondez simplement à la question ! .

Ou ce trouvais la " crista " avant d'être à st denis .

Et n'oubliez pas les références historiques précis , sans faire de supposition .

Williams Q


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If you discuss as you said.

Simply answer the question!

Or what was "crista" prior to being st denis.

And don't forget, historical references without assumption.

Q Williams

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 10:48 pm 
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williams wrote:
Ce n'est pas à vous que je m'adressait , mais à Roger .

Vous aussi vous êtes son caniche .

Et puis vous ne réfléchissez pas beaucoup .

Vous croyez vraiment que isaac continurais à être en relation avec moi , si il pensais ce que vous pensez sur moi .

C'est vraiment le prendre pour un idiot .

Vous ne regarder que les apparences , sans vraiment connaitre les gens .

Vous ne savez rien de moi .

Mis à part retenir que je suis sur le forum Douzet , vous ne voyez que ça comme une obsession.

Williams Q


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This is not you that I was me, but Roger.

You also have his poodle.

And then you do not much think.

You really as isaac continurais believe to be in relationship with me, if he thought what you think about me.

This is really take it to an idiot.

You will watch as appearances, without really know people.

You do know nothing for me.

Aside from remember that I am on the D forum, you only see it as an obsession.

Q Williams

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010 11:32 pm 
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bergeredearcadie wrote:
He doesn't. He only read some of IBJ's files which he promptly took to Douzet.

A bit of RLC research community espionage.


I'm sure that's never happened before! :lol:

What would we all do for fun if this enigma got solved conclusively tomorrow?

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 1:39 am 
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I gotta hand it to ya Rain, that babelfish translation reminds me of Koreans translating directly from Korean to Ingrish, it don't get any better than that.

Never in my wildest fantasy could I compose anglo like that. It reminds me of the French soldiers in the Monte Python skit where King Arthur + his kniggets get rebuffed by their insults.

Ya know TCP. even if the RLC enigma gets resolved dudes like that Williams gettin' babelfished more than make up for it. hehehe. Is that guy really serious or is his just yankin' on sum buddy's chain? I got baffled by the poodle bit, lemme tell ya.

I don't think that William's dude realizes, Tingra don't play 2nd fiddle to anybody, she is her own boss. I am sure her hubby will tell ya that.

The only query I got for that dude is, where did he stash the crista, since he seems to be so knowing 'boot it? Is he waitin' for Kersey to hit paydirt 1st?

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 6:57 am 
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Au lieu de parler pour ne rien dire .
Donner des éléments pour ceux qui visite ce site .
Williams .



Le " signe" qui ornait les couronnes que Constantin reçut en 310 des mains de l'Apollon gaulois? La rencontre eut lieu en un sanctuaire que la panégyriste de l'empereur , gaulois de naissance , qualifie de " plus beau temple du monde" ( templum toto orbe pulcherrimun ) et que
l'étude de l'itinéraire suivi par Constantin pour s'y rendre depuis Marseille permet de placer dans la plaine du Lendit , au nord immédiat de Lutèce .

Référence : Panégyrique prononcé en 310 à Trèves par Eunène,rhéteur d'autun;sur la localisation du temple au lendit et sur l'iténéraire que suivit constantin pour s'y rendre

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PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 7:16 am 
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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 1:01 pm 
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williams wrote:
Au lieu de parler pour ne rien dire .
Donner des éléments pour ceux qui visite ce site .
Williams .



Le " signe" qui ornait les couronnes que Constantin reçut en 310 des mains de l'Apollon gaulois? La rencontre eut lieu en un sanctuaire que la panégyriste de l'empereur , gaulois de naissance , qualifie de " plus beau temple du monde" ( templum toto orbe pulcherrimun ) et que
l'étude de l'itinéraire suivi par Constantin pour s'y rendre depuis Marseille permet de placer dans la plaine du Lendit , au nord immédiat de Lutèce .

Référence : Panégyrique prononcé en 310 à Trèves par Eunène,rhéteur d'autun;sur la localisation du temple au lendit et sur l'iténéraire que suivit constantin pour s'y rendre

BING TRANSLATION

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Instead of talking to say.
Provide for those who visit this site.
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The "signs" which ornait the crowns Constantine was in the hands of the Gallic Apollo 310? The meeting took place in a sanctuary panégyriste of the Gallic Emperor of birth, described as "most beautiful temple in the world" (templum toto orbe pulcherrimun) and study the route followed by Constantine to get there from Marseille can place in the plain of the Lendit, to the immediate North of Lutetia.

Reference: Panégyrique pronounced in 310 in Trier by Eunène, Jewish autun; on location at the lendit Temple and the iténéraire that followed directions constantin

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 1:19 pm 
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Williams Q -

Why are you just posting stuff that we already know, those of us that have read Lombard Jourdan, the pangyrics etc?

I myself read these all at least a year ago.

What is your point in keep psoting this stuff?

Why dont you post something new if you know all about the *crista*?

Like, where is it NOW, if it exists, for example????????? And what has it to do with Sauniere, and RLC?


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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 1:31 pm 
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This is rather odd yes? the closer folk think they are getting to the heart of the crista matter, the further back they go to. We can't undo 2,000 worth of what happened, euphemistically called 'history'.

From Sauniere's death in 1917 to now is nearly 100 years, and one would think the so-called facts of that 100 years ago slice in time may as well have come from 2,000 years back. The same conundrum with every passing generation.

Back to the future makes for great Hollyweird fliks, but for dealin' with enigma's like RLC, the crista, Rodrigo's diary, Ben's finds, etc the same debate always ensues.

Would anybody recognize the 'truth' if they encountered it? Would anybody else agree? To be chivalric here, wouldn't the best start and finish point be, to agree to disagree, and 'neer the 'twain shall part?

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 1:49 pm 
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Merci de votre réponse .

Trouver moi sur ce site l'indication précise ou il est dit que la " crista " était à Marseille avant d'être à St denis , personne ne l'avais dit jusqu'à présent , en donnant les références .

Vous me demandez de donner quelques choses de nouveaux , est bien pourquoi vous ne demander pas à roger ou à sheilla etc... Qui anime ce forum .

Vous croyez quand même pas que je vais donner des mois de recherches comme ça .

Vous critiquez le milieu des chercheurs français , mais vous qu'apportez vous sur ce sujet précis ?! .

En ce qui concerne les amis amies de Roger , il faut qu'ils sachent que j'ai de très bonne relation avec isaac est aucun soucis avec lui .

Ne pas oublier que c'est lui la tête pensante de cette découverte .

Ici il n'y à aucune différence entre ce forum aux niveaux de la recherche est celui des français , enfin presque .

Si vous voulez avoir des détails sur la crista qui n'ont jamais été donner ni trouver par l'équipe de roger , vous n'avez qu'a attendre l'article de la " crista " qui va paraitre sur le site de " Societé Perillos " de André Douzet .

amicalement .

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PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 2:03 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 2:07 pm 
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Williams,

I do not speak or understand French that well, but correct me if i am wrong in what you have written:

You are on this site to let us know that the crista was at Marseille before it went to Saint Denis?

Why should i ask Roger et al about the *crista*? I know what their thinking is, and i said a long time ago, that until we saw the archaeology, or the crista itself, there was indeed no point in keep talking about a so far ‘imaginary’ artefact. I also cannot see what the importance of it would have been to Sauniere or RLC. I know they say the Will of Henri Hautpoul holds the clue, but i have been told that Will is a fake!(Oh i should correct this. I read about this in IBJ book i think - The Rise .... may be getting muddled here) Anyway, when a proper scholarly assessement of the archaeological artefact appears, then it can be discussed.

Nope, i don’t want you to give months of research ‘just like that’, to this forum. I am just wondering what your modus operandi is in suddenly appearing on this Forum, when lets face it, the crista has been talked about for ages on here .....

When have i criticised the medium of French researchers? Oh you mean, when i mention the dodginess of Douzet?

Well for me, a researcher earns respect, by the quality of their ‘work’ as well as how they are as a person.

Why should i bring anything to the subject about the *crista*? I am not the oen saying i have all the answers. I have other areas of RLC that i am interested in ...

The friends of Roger? He hasn’t got any has he? ( :mrgreen: This is just a joke : ) ) Oh, you mean Sheila and Tingra? Of course they have a good relationship with IBJ – why wouldn’t they? I have had some exchanges with IBJ. He seems ok ... but you know, i remains suspicious of people who continually conceal their identity .... but what has all this to do with Roger?

I’m not sure what you are trying to insinuate about IBJ ....Anyway, the whole point is this. All the talk of this mysterious artefact is a waste of time, until a picture is produced, or an archaeologists says they have seen the artefact ....etc etc etc.

Why would i attach ANY value whatsoever to writing by Douzet on the crista, when several times in the past he has been shown to be faking stuff? If you can answer me that ....? And Douzet has never talked about a *crista* before, but IBJ has?

This has all the makings of a set up job, wo RLC factions now arguing over who knows the 'real' history of the crista. Its a joke. N'est pas? No one has even shown what it is, blah blah blah ... and no one has shown why it would be at RLC, why Sauniere wanted it, *sigh* I'm not getting into all this ....


In a friendly way,

PS If i have misunderstood what you are saying, my apologies. Im not getting involved in any of these shenanigans.


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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 2:32 pm 
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Merci de votre réponse .

Au moins vous , vous êtes clair .

Je n'ai jamais dit que je pensais que la " crista " avait été trouver par Saunière .

Mais il y à un faisceau de concordance qui vont dans la même direction .

Il est sur que tant que cette " objet " ne seras pas retrouver il n'y auras pas la preuve tangible .

C'est ce que je m'efforce de réaliser .

Par contre je peux vous donner une information importante que j'ai trouver .

J'ai trouver une preuve directe entre l'église gnostique ( Jules doinel , Déodat Roché , Prosper estieu , etc...) est la crista .

Et que la " crista" n'est pas dans le nord de la france comme il le pense .

Est cela n'est pas connue de l'équipe de roger etc...

Vous imaginez que je ne dit pas cela pour me glorifier ! .

Moi je n'ai rien à cacher , j'apparait sous ma vrai identité .

J'ai choisit le site de Société Périllos , car personne en france ne voulait communiquer ces travaux est continuer à en parler , c'est tout .

Concernant la " crista " il faut savoir aussi qu'il existait des copies , est que même celui de constantin en était une .

Je continue ma quête , est si un jour je devais mettre la main sur cette " crista" , je donnerais l'information .

Amicalement

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 Post subject: Re: The "Crista"
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 2:49 pm 
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Williams,

I appreciate what you are saying, and ok, when the article is posted i'll read it.

But let me just say, you reckon there is more than one crista? That there are copies of the original or something?

Forgive me, if i have major doubts when Douzet produces the crista then, that he found in an old second hand junk shop :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Regarding Doinel etc .... if he used the word *crista* anywhere in his writings ...then of course that would be interesting.

Anyway, happy researching ....i hope you find what you are looking for.


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