Arcadia Discussion Zone

Yep!

What do you call the goddess with 10,000 names?

(Oh Gareth? Care to comment?)

I believe Isis is known as the goddess of 10,000 names.

From the diary/journal of Inanna/Ishtar on the eve of her trip into the underworld....


If I'm going to confront her, there is no better opportunity than now. Everyone will be expected to pay respect to the dead. (Is it not ironic that the husband to the queen of the underworld now lies dead?)

I must wonder if my sister killed her own husband...for now he is bound to her in the underworld. Never again will he feel the warmth of the sun on his face. Would her jealousy be so great as to consume her own beloved?

I pitty the fool. Now he will be tormented by her for all eternity. I, for one, have had enough of her bullshit.

Since we were children she has done everything in her power to make my life a living hell (I crack myself up). Her jealousy knows no bounds. She's the queen of death...did she think she was going to be popular? All she cared for was the power trip....total respect out of fear...fear of death. She got what she wanted. But it's not enough.

She torments me at every opportunity...any dream, any portal or gate or tiny crack in this deminsion, she uses to remind me that even the mighty Ishtar must bow before the queen of the underworld. I suppose I should be flattered she spends so much time concentrating on me...but I'm tired of her threats.

She can kill me only once....but surely someone will come to my rescue...so, I go to hell to confront my sister!

Next entry...after her return.


Only the passage of (linear) time will tell how my visit to my sister will be remembered by man.

Will the humans remember the death of the queen of heaven? Will they remember the pain of their suffering until I was returned to them? Will they know how I have suffered???? Me! the beloved of Anu and Enki?

My sister was not to be satisfied with only my death, oh no....she tried to humiliate me first by having me arrive at her throne naked. At each gate on the journey something was removed from me until I was completely naked. Seeing me nude in front of her only enraged her jealousy more (am I not beautiful?)

I stood at the throne of the netherworld alone and defenseless. No army for the goddess of war....

I knew my sister would fix the eyes of death upon me and strike me; I did not expect to find justice with the flunkies (Anunu) around her. But to hang me on a nail as rotten flesh? That was cold even for her.

If it were not for my faithful servant and the lord Enki I would still be in hell.

What clarity of focus death allows! For you know who holds you dear by who mourns your loss....and who doesn't.

The one who takes my place in hell surely deserves it for his betrayal to me. I literally go through hell to return home and find my beloved husband sitting on MY throne having a grand time!

Not only did he not come to my rescue, he took full advantage of my absense. How could this happen to the goddess of love?

You know I was the only girl (3 brothers)....I am the writer of the journal entries.

"Did you know" he said softly
there is an ancient prophecy that the twenty third Jean to sit on the papal throne will be the Antichrist



he Second Ecumenical Council of the Vatican, or Vatican II, was the twenty-first Ecumenical Council of the Catholic Church. It opened under Pope John XXIII on 11 October, 1962 and closed under Pope Paul VI on 21 November, 1965.

Many who subscribe to the teachings of Our Lady of Fatima also believe that Pope John deliberately withheld secret prophetic information revealed by an apparition of the Virgin Mary.[11] This is perhaps the basis for Internet reports in the late 1990s about the supposed discovery of Pope John's diary where he received prophetic insight into the future, including the return of Jesus in New York in 2000.[12]

In 2003, The Guardian newspaper found a confidential communique from John to Catholic Bishops, allegedly mandating confidentiality in matters of pederasty with the threat of excommunication.[14



Malachy called him the Paftor and nauta
Shepherd and Sailor


The Lion angel and the fleur de lis and castle with commandments

there was a antipope named Jean XXIII


Dreamer of the Vine page 277
I find it fascinating that Liz Greene brings this out

Why, Roger...are you trying to flatter me?

Now here is the really interesting one

"My brother Cardinal of Lorraine is the wealthiest prince ..of the Church into our Catholic
realm.....( I can say that his is very good in the bedroom) ...He worships Priapus, the Horned one,
and Dionysius, bringer of drunken ectasy. There is no sensual excess he hasn't sampled, with either sex.

Nostradamus answers with " He is a true Cathar"

De Guise answers with a Yes ...a true Adamite. He is committed to satiation of the flesh as a gateway to the Spirit.


page 251 The Dreamer of the Vine

This is a different look to what a Cathar is

Not a very flattering picture. And not at all in synch with their actual beliefs. That's the beauty of fiction, I suppose.

TCP

Point taken.

TCP

Roger damn good one

Ok De Guise talks about the Cardinal's religion

he describes it as
"He has a wonderously unquenchable and divinely inspired faith in the instrument between his holy legs"

He worships Priapus

It was said Godfrey de Bouillion marquis of that city, the illustrious leader of the first crusade, in order to eradicate it, or to replace it by the ceremonies of the 18 Christian church, sent to Antwerp, from Jerusalem, as a present of inestimable value, the foreskin of Jesus Christ.36 This precious relic, however, found but little favour with the Belgian ladies, and utterly failed to supersede their beloved Fascinum.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/27752/27752-h/27752-h.htm#Page_18
Can't we see the symbols all around

like the obelisks

There is one big one in Rome

The Cardinal reminds me of the same ritual that was in DaVinci code
he is the Grandmaster taking part of a sex ritual...very much like what Sophie witnessed her grandfather participating in
Sol et luna

Do we really know what the Cathar's were about?

It is a very Old Order, my friend
Older than you can imagine
it was old when the Calabrian monks
came to Foret de Merlanvaux
to teach the young Godfrie de Bouillion
it was old when Dagobert was slain
beneath the sacred oak
it was old when Pontius Pilate washed his hands
and old when Pythogoras heard the vast machinery
of the universe propogating itself in the black void of space
It was old even in Arcadia where the exiled tribe of
Benjamin sought its new homeland

Incredible writing

What we hear is a tribe exiled seeking their new homeland

Yes, "incredible" pretty much sums it up.

TCP

It's too clean.

page 251....... The Dreamer and the Vine
"It is a very old Order, my friend. Older than you imagine. It was old when the Calabrian monks came to the Foret de Merlanvaux, to teach young Godefroi de Bouillon. It was old when King Dagobert was slain beneath the sacred oak. It was old in Jerusalem, when Pilot washed his hands, and old when Pythagoras heard the vast machinery of the universe propagating itself in the black void of space. It was old even in Arcadia, where the exiled tribe of Benjamin sought its new homeland. Its shape changed as the old gods changed their shape, according to the currents of the times. But the knowledge is the primordial knowledge of Man, the ground of his being. Did you not know that before the Father there was the Mother? In the beginning and the end was Notre Dame...She existed before the mountains and the seas came into being, or any living thing... Man's destiny is to seek knowledge of himself. But in the end, She is what he knows."

I was a bit perplexed that this idea was introduced just before the end of the novel as I had the feeling that this statement may have been the main message she wished to convey within the novel. A good read........Nostradamus without a Hollywood makeover.

I personally think the concept of the Pythagorians is important but it's more next stage for me.

there speaks experience

Liz Greene gives us the motivation of the Templars


Plantard the troubadour
sings
Eustache etait le premier
Le second le noble Godefroi
Puis vint comme nous le lisons Bauduin
ils traverserant le mer
Pour soumettre les paiens
Pour trouver
Le sepulchre de Dieu
et liberer Jerusalem

he tells us the motivation for the Crusades

they were looking for the Sepulchre of God

pg 41

This was also written by Liz Greene and Juliet Sharman-Burke



The five of Pentacles

Five, the pentacle, a symbol of divine wo/man and not divine wo/man, the marriage of the female and male (2 +3=5) - Pythagoras.

The word Tarot comes from the Italian word trionfi, used in the fifteenth century to describe the twenty-two trump cards. Tarocchi gained currency in the early sixteenth century, first representing the twenty-two trumps, and later to the complete seventy-eight card deck. The word tarocchi and tarocco are often used interchangeably, though tarocchi is actually the plural of tarocco. The French derivative tarot has come into widespread usage in English, though the English term “trump” is derived from the Latin triumphi.

Pythagoras studied in Egypt for 22 years.

Pythagorians worshipping the Sunrise.



Pythagoras' mother was informed of her pregnancy of a great son by the Oracle of Delphi named Pythasis. Pythagoras' father, Mnesarchus was in Delphi on business and went to see the Oracle to ask of their voyage home. Instead of hearing about the state of the seas, he heard about his great son that was coming. He was moved by this news and so was his wife. She changed her name from Parthenis to Pythasis in honor of the Oracle and they named their son Pythagoras after the Python of Delphi

Delphi was considered the centre of the earth. The Python was slain by Apollo.

The Richer brothers of the 20th century (Jean and Lucien) insist that Ancient Greece mapped out the landscape in the shape of the zodiac. One zodiac cross is centred on Delphi and another on Sardis. Sardis is in Turkey and is associated with Galatia. Jean Richer describes the lines in Greece as the Hera temple line the solar line Hermione-Delos-Didyma. Richer says:

“I had assumed that latitudes had been marked out from the existence of the earth line (Delphi-Sardis), the line of the Hera Temples, the solar line, and the line of the Olympuses, and I had drawn all the latitudes on a map of Greece according to the Pythagorean diagram. At a point on the Peloponnese, exactly where the south-north axis intersects the hypothetical “line of Hermes” I had inscribed the sign of Hermes One and a half years later, when I had begun a systematic reading of the Homeric Hymns I noticed that the point I had marked was the summit of Mount Cyllene, birthplace of the God” p. xxiv


The treasures of Delphi were brought to Tolosa (Toulouse) by Brennus in around 279BCE. The treasure was cursed and the Tectosages threw it into a Votive lake.



This one.

Apollo, Saint George and the Archangel Michael all slay dragons.


Apollo killing Python. A 1581 engraving by Virgil Solis for Ovid's Metamorphoses, Book I

They slay dragons on Beltane - May 1st.

May 1st is a Cross Quarter Day



Poussin carried a copy of Ovid's Metamorphoses with him at all times.


Apollo Rides a White Swan
Ride it on out like a Druid in the old days

interesting discussions on this thread

"Liz Greene gives us the motivation of the Templars
Plantard the troubadour
sings
Eustache etait le premier
Le second le noble Godefroi
Puis vint comme nous le lisons Bauduin
ils traverserant le mer
Pour soumettre les paiens
Pour trouver
Le sepulchre de Dieu
et liberer Jerusalem
he tells us the motivation for the Crusades
they were looking for the Sepulchre of God" - from L.

Please translate the above.

"After she (Emma) came into possession of the Chateau de Cabrieres Sauniere wrote a letter in which he claimed to have in his possession a manuscript chronicle of events in and around Rennes for roughly three decades from 1290 to about 1320 written in Occitan by a wandering Franciscan Friar which states that the last Seneschal of Cabrieres, a Templar named Eustache de Rastaignac passed through Rennes in June 1309 with a squire and six heavily laden pack mules bound for the monastery of Montserrat in Catalonia but that close pursuit by officers of King Philip forced him to hide..." - from "The Templar Gold of Castle Cabrieres".

Silly me, I thought the Templar Knights were devout men who defended pilgrims and weaker beings from harm, and the cusades were to liberate the Holy Land from the saracens.

I know two crusades were called to liberate the tomb of Christ in the Holy land and they were called at specific moments which allows room for speculation, I was looking for the altering of pilgrimages.

In other words this was true, whether in assumption, I'm not sure -

There, told you I was silly. Mustn't comment on something I don't know enough about.
Thanks rain.