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Maybe Serendipity could start her own thread dedicated to her creations and what they produce....people seem to be interested in them, so i think that would be a good idea then we can get back to ancient history.


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IMHO its a great activity to fill up those endless holiday days with the kids.
Gets them into Art too.
I can see the Crown and Throne, I also get a Choo Choo train, a Baa Baa lamb and the back end of Noddys car ( but thats only by squinting with one eye covered)

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Don't listen to them Dippity...start your own thread...that'll show 'em :D


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Sheila, is that you under that nice, soft sheep-skin?

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grrrrrrrr..... 8)


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Judging by the Growls its a Wolf in Sheeps clothing............... :lol:


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Don't listen to them Dippity...start your own thread...that'll show 'em :D


Indeed Sheila I totally agree with you. Lets ask The Moderator to start a 'Sesame Street' section and folk can post away there to their hearts contentment.
If we can get MJB to post her attempts at finger painting and pics of her Kitsch collection there too then we could free up some space.

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 Post subject: Re: Problems with the Visigoth treasure at Rennes le Chateau
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You're all being very uncharitable and not just a little ignorant!

Let me tell you the score.

You see, the Great Shemale God-Diss sprinkled all manner of artworks and "stain glass", throughout the centuries and by various artists. These artists were mere pawns, crucibles, and their original intent is completely beside the point and so is any knowledge of canonic iconography.

All this was merely prelude to the REVELATION that was to come, when the "chosen seers" were to come and provide a spiritually starving planet with their pythian interpretation of all that came before.

It is very important that you all recognize that you are singularly blessed by having the benefit of these sacred revelations here, before the rest of the planet.

Or... perhaps not.

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You're all being very uncharitable and not just a little ignorant!

Let me tell you the score.

You see, the Great Shemale God-Diss sprinkled all manner of artworks and "stain glass", throughout the centuries and by various artists. These artists were mere pawns, crucibles, and their original intent is completely beside the point and so is any knowledge of canonic iconography.

All this was merely prelude to the REVELATION that was to come, when the "chosen seers" were to come and provide a spiritually starving planet with their pythian interpretation of all that came before.

It is very important that you all recognize that you are singularly blessed by having the benefit of these sacred revelations here, before the rest of the planet.

Or... perhaps not.


Wow...I feel so foolish... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Problems with the Visigoth treasure at Rennes le Chateau
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Tectosages (Boudet mentions them), which tribe are they Tim?


They were Volcae, Roscoe. :roll:

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And what does the word Tectosages mean? He who shall not be discussed on here (Henri Boudet) first mentions them on page 4 of La Vraie Langue Celtique et Le Cromleck Rennes=les-Bains.

Note: Henri Boudet does get more mentions than do the Cathars. Presumeably this is because it is too difficult to shoe horn these into the latest book hype.


Since yet another Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee session has broken out (strangely involving the same people), I'll answer this myself.

The word Tectosages means WISE BUILDERS.

Yes Boudet speaks of WISE BUILDERS being responsible for Le Cromleck de Rennes-Les-Bains. They weren't Celtic but this in no way means that Vates and Druids didn't pick up on those WISE BUILDINGS.

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Les Tectosages, dont l’ethnonyme signifie « ceux qui cherchent un toit ».

Les Volques Tectosages, littéralement "le peuple qui cherche un toit".

The name Tectosages, literally 'possession-seekers', meant 'claim-stakers', perhaps closer in sense to 'claim-jumper' or 'land grabber', and a direct cognate is found in Old Irish techtaigidir 'he/she seeks to (re)establish a land claim'


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 Post subject: Re: Problems with the Visigoth treasure at Rennes le Chateau
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Sheila wrote:
Les Tectosages, dont l’ethnonyme signifie « ceux qui cherchent un toit ».

Les Volques Tectosages, littéralement "le peuple qui cherche un toit".

The name Tectosages, literally 'possession-seekers', meant 'claim-stakers', perhaps closer in sense to 'claim-jumper' or 'land grabber', and a direct cognate is found in Old Irish techtaigidir 'he/she seeks to (re)establish a land claim'


Well if you look back at some of my postings you will find that I first said this on here.

However I'd much rather accept Jean Markale's interpretation

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Hmm....Jean Markale/Bertrand aside.....i delved into the word briefly and you could be right in a way.

Οὐόλκαι Τεκτόσαγες

Tecton/Tecto...means builder, relating to construction, rooflike ...."charpentier"....from the Greek.

Sage....I can only come up with wise, knowledgeable, wisdom and calm judgment etc

It was Venceslas Kruta who says "those looking for/in search of a roof" .....



I'll have another go at it later on...interesting but.


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roscoe wrote:
Yes Boudet speaks of WISE BUILDERS being responsible for Le Cromleck de Rennes-Les-Bains. They weren't Celtic but this in no way means that Vates and Druids didn't pick up on those WISE BUILDINGS.


Fortunately the sciences have advanced by leaps and bounds since Boudet's time, with archaeologists now determining that the dolmens and cromlecks pre-date the arrival in Western Europe of the Indo-European, Gaelic/Brythonic speakers who are today commonly referred to as "Celts" - including the Tectosages.

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The Celts are interesting :mrgreen:

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Well we ARE interesting ! :D


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TCP wrote:
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Yes Boudet speaks of WISE BUILDERS being responsible for Le Cromleck de Rennes-Les-Bains. They weren't Celtic but this in no way means that Vates and Druids didn't pick up on those WISE BUILDINGS.


Fortunately the sciences have advanced by leaps and bounds since Boudet's time, with archaeologists now determining that the dolmens and cromlecks pre-date the arrival in Western Europe of the Indo-European, Gaelic/Brythonic speakers who are today commonly referred to as "Celts" - including the Tectosages.

TCP


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Strangers you mean? What did they call themselves Tim? Strangers?

Ever looked at the Gordian Excavations in Phrygia. Did you know that a Phrygian hat is sometimes called a Dolmen. Interesting ay?

Here's my favourite "Celtic" woman

Correct full title;

Beneath a Phrygian Sky (Gordian version)

"A voice from down the ages so haunting in its song
These ancient stones will tell us our love must make us strong"

"We wondered where our God was in the face of so much pain
And I looked up to the stars above to find you once again."

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Roger wrote:
You're all being very uncharitable and not just a little ignorant!

Let me tell you the score.

You see, the Great Shemale God-Diss sprinkled all manner of artworks and "stain glass", throughout the centuries and by various artists. These artists were mere pawns, crucibles, and their original intent is completely beside the point and so is any knowledge of canonic iconography.

All this was merely prelude to the REVELATION that was to come, when the "chosen seers" were to come and provide a spiritually starving planet with their pythian interpretation of all that came before.

It is very important that you all recognize that you are singularly blessed by having the benefit of these sacred revelations here, before the rest of the planet.

Or... perhaps not.


How's your explanation of the pagan symbol outside the Vatican Palace coming along Roger? Still waiting.

This one:

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Nice Pentagonal building on the right there ay?

Tell ME the score Roger?

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Strangers you mean? What did they call themselves Tim? Strangers?


You mean what did Strabo the Greek call them? "Keltoi" is a Greek term, Roscoe. The tribes themselves most assuredly didn't refer to themselves or to each other as "Celts"...

But "Celts" is part of our vernacular today, like it or not.

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"Commonly referred to as Celts."
Strangers you mean? What did they call themselves Tim? Strangers?


You mean what did Strabo the Greek call them? "Keltoi" is a Greek term, Roscoe. The tribes themselves most assuredly didn't refer to themselves or to each other as "Celts"...

TCP


Why are you telling me things that I've already told you?

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But "Celts" is part of our vernacular today, like it or not.


Yeh so what do you mean pre-Celtic?

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roscoe wrote:
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You're all being very uncharitable and not just a little ignorant!

Let me tell you the score.

You see, the Great Shemale God-Diss sprinkled all manner of artworks and "stain glass", throughout the centuries and by various artists. These artists were mere pawns, crucibles, and their original intent is completely beside the point and so is any knowledge of canonic iconography.

All this was merely prelude to the REVELATION that was to come, when the "chosen seers" were to come and provide a spiritually starving planet with their pythian interpretation of all that came before.

It is very important that you all recognize that you are singularly blessed by having the benefit of these sacred revelations here, before the rest of the planet.

Or... perhaps not.


How's your explanation of the pagan symbol outside the Vatican Palace coming along Roger? Still waiting.

This one:

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Nice Pentagonal building on the right there ay?

Tell ME the score Roger?


Needs an answer Roger old boy.

Why are there pagan artifacts displayed in the Vatican Roger?

Do you think Constantine would have approved?

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roscoe wrote:
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Roger wrote:
You're all being very uncharitable and not just a little ignorant!

Let me tell you the score.

You see, the Great Shemale God-Diss sprinkled all manner of artworks and "stain glass", throughout the centuries and by various artists. These artists were mere pawns, crucibles, and their original intent is completely beside the point and so is any knowledge of canonic iconography.

All this was merely prelude to the REVELATION that was to come, when the "chosen seers" were to come and provide a spiritually starving planet with their pythian interpretation of all that came before.

It is very important that you all recognize that you are singularly blessed by having the benefit of these sacred revelations here, before the rest of the planet.

Or... perhaps not.


How's your explanation of the pagan symbol outside the Vatican Palace coming along Roger? Still waiting.

This one:

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Nice Pentagonal building on the right there ay?

Tell ME the score Roger?


Needs an answer Roger old boy.

Why are there pagan artifacts displayed in the Vatican Roger?

Do you think Constantine would have approved?



Any chance of an answer on this Roger?

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roscoe wrote:
Why are you telling me things that I've already told you?


Because your word games are tiresome.

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But "Celts" is part of our vernacular today, like it or not.


Yeh so what do you mean pre-Celtic?


You know perfectly well what I mean.

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Here is some archaeological treasure for you, it`s a Phoenician ivory from Nimrud

in Egyptian style. The original is just the crushed metal frame, I restored it with the

ivory and jewels - speaking of RLC treasures. There is that RLC - Girona - Egypt link after all.

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TCP wrote:
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Why are you telling me things that I've already told you?


Because your word games are tiresome.


They are only tiresome because you cannot answer them.

I was rather hoping the organ grinder would answer my question all I hear from is his monkey.

TCP wrote:
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But "Celts" is part of our vernacular today, like it or not.


Yeh so what do you mean pre-Celtic?


You know perfectly well what I mean.

TCP


But there never was any autonomous people who called themselves the Celts. So how can there be a pre-something that never existed? But let me play your game for a while. Where did these groove ware people go to? Did they just dematerialise? Or did they become the people of western europe?

So did yo ever look at the Gordian Excavations in Phrygia.

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Roscoe
that Dolmen connection has me very interested

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Draguignan_Pierre_de_la_fee.JPG

can you give me some insight on this
actually Rodger kinda put me on to this in a round about way

I find this structure of great interest
Thanks Roscoe

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