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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
PostPosted: 08 Nov 2009 5:51 pm 
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BTW, I found our Countessa's Lady SoniaL blog, too. (See: knowing how to use the Internet reaps rewards.)

http://countessasonialorraine.blogspot. ... -from.html

I see the Countessa says she is "no one in particular".

http://www.blogger.com/profile/03002433160514103778

Could someone who is no one in particular also be other people (in particular)?

It's good to know her myspace establishes that she lives on Earth (whew, wasn't sure) and is 99 years old.
http://www.myspace.com/ladysonial

LadySoniaL{House(s) Hurtado de Mendoza, Mendivil, Borgia, de Lara, de Oca, Stuart, & Medici.].

You don't say.

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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
PostPosted: 08 Nov 2009 5:59 pm 
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lori wrote:
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Does this guy look 49 years old to you? :


Bless you Lori!
It is to your credit that you are prepared to take it at face value! :lol:

How many people, do you suppose put their real age on any internet sites.
"Ah vanity! My favourite sin! " ...name that movie with Al Pacino.

It presupposes that its a current picture.......a very '80s look to my mind and who's to say the beard is a current affectation ? :shock:
It could be someone else but why would LsoniaL be "missing Twyford" ? An unusual name but one of the denizens of this Forum who was a great supporter of the 'Diary' :wink:
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 Post subject: Sonia and Twyford?!!
PostPosted: 08 Nov 2009 11:40 pm 
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Lady Sonia and Twyford aren`t vacationing together in Spain, are they?! Sigh.

Lady Sonia misses Twyford because she heard that Twyford
stood up for her on the Forum.
Senor Aitch, Colin, Twyford and, Alexius are all different people as far as
I`m concerned.
I`m just close to one of them.
The point is that Alexius is a skeptic.

Wasn`t there a sone in the garden at RLC that Sauniere carved with Emma`s
name on it and a heart? Personally, I think he carved that when he got her letter saying that
she`d come to visit RLC and missed him.

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 Post subject: Re: Sonia and Twyford?!!
PostPosted: 09 Nov 2009 7:19 am 
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Renne wrote:
Senor Aitch, Colin, Twyford and, Alexius are all different people as far as
I`m concerned.
I`m just close to one of them.
The point is that Alexius is a skeptic.

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They just happen to use the same email address. The one Seeker posted and the one used to threaten Lori.
Now we appreciate that for various technical reasons your elevator doesnt always make it to the penthouse but do try and keep up with your own argument.
Yesterday you said that the 'Translator was a skeptic' now you claim that the point you were making is that Alexius is a skeptic. :? :shock:

In the email that Lori shared yesterday the writer clearly said that he had the 'Diary'.
An email address that Seeker confirmed belonged to Colin Houlding.
A person whose initials you kindly posted on most of the early 'translations'.

So, Mary......... I'm typing slowly here so I dont lose you in this logical labyrinth.......
someone called Colin Houlding has the 'Diary' and is acknowledged by you as the finder and translator of the same.
(Are you with me so far? )

Many moons ago when we were still unravelling this convoluted deception a 'Twyford' claimed posession of said 'diary' and exhorted us to not get hung up on the 'veracity' issue!
Twyford btw is a bye name colin Houlding uses on other websites.

You've kindly confirmed that the translator and Alexius are one and the same ...ergo...

CAH = TWFORD = ALEXIUS = COLIN HOULDING!

btw mary which particular 'Net incarnation of this multi faceted person are you claiming 'closeness' to ?

You know what folks? I feel a seismic event coming on. Somewhere in the Pacific ring.

John Travolta isn't the only one who can sense these things !

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 Post subject: Re: Sonia and Twyford?!!
PostPosted: 09 Nov 2009 10:47 am 
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Thomas D. wrote:
Many moons ago when we were still unravelling this convoluted deception a 'Twyford' claimed posession of said 'diary' and exhorted us to not get hung up on the 'veracity' issue!
Twyford btw is a bye name colin Houlding uses on other websites.


Like this one, Mr D?
http://www.docstoc.com/profile/twyford


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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
PostPosted: 09 Nov 2009 10:52 am 
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oooh rather damning evidence ....

Unless someone else is using the name Twyford of course...but his name is Colin Houlding .... :mrgreen:

Twyford lives in Manchester i see...but then again .. hes lying. On here he says he lives in Scotland.
Why do people hide their identities or lie on internet sites??? If you dont want anyone to know where you live, dont write anything.


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 Post subject: Re: Sonia and Twyford?!!
PostPosted: 09 Nov 2009 12:35 pm 
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Thomas D. wrote:
Renne wrote:
Senor Aitch, Colin, Twyford and, Alexius are all different people as far as
I`m concerned.
I`m just close to one of them.
The point is that Alexius is a skeptic.

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They just happen to use the same email address. The one Seeker posted and the one used to threaten Lori.
Now we appreciate that for various technical reasons your elevator doesnt always make it to the penthouse but do try and keep up with your own argument.
Yesterday you said that the 'Translator was a skeptic' now you claim that the point you were making is that Alexius is a skeptic. :? :shock:

In the email that Lori shared yesterday the writer clearly said that he had the 'Diary'.
An email address that Seeker confirmed belonged to Colin Houlding.
A person whose initials you kindly posted on most of the early 'translations'.

So, Mary......... I'm typing slowly here so I dont lose you in this logical labyrinth.......
someone called Colin Houlding has the 'Diary' and is acknowledged by you as the finder and translator of the same.
(Are you with me so far? )

Many moons ago when we were still unravelling this convoluted deception a 'Twyford' claimed posession of said 'diary' and exhorted us to not get hung up on the 'veracity' issue!
Twyford btw is a bye name colin Houlding uses on other websites.

You've kindly confirmed that the translator and Alexius are one and the same ...ergo...

CAH = TWFORD = ALEXIUS = COLIN HOULDING!

btw mary which particular 'Net incarnation of this multi faceted person are you claiming 'closeness' to ?

You know what folks? I feel a seismic event coming on. Somewhere in the Pacific ring.

John Travolta isn't the only one who can sense these things !

TD :lol:

BRAVO! Brilliant reply. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
PostPosted: 09 Nov 2009 12:53 pm 
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bergeredearcadie wrote:
Why do people hide their identities or lie on internet sites???


Well, Sandy, one obvious answer is that they are engaged in some form or another of deception with which they don't want to be directly connected.

There can be other reasons, of course. Perhaps they don't want to be directly connected with previous bad behavior on other fora & websites.

The third might be that it surrounds them with an air of majesty; perhaps they can't tell us who they really are because .... oooooh.... they're somebody important.

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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
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Seeker1 wrote:
bergeredearcadie wrote:
Why do people hide their identities or lie on internet sites???
The third might be that it surrounds them with an air of majesty; perhaps they can't tell us who they really are because .... oooooh.... they're somebody important.


I pick number three. Oh oh I feel another nasty email on the way............ :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Sonia and Twyford?!!
PostPosted: 09 Nov 2009 1:03 pm 
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Jean Vié wrote:
Thomas D. wrote:
Many moons ago when we were still unravelling this convoluted deception a 'Twyford' claimed posession of said 'diary' and exhorted us to not get hung up on the 'veracity' issue!
Twyford btw is a bye name colin Houlding uses on other websites.


Like this one, Mr D?
http://www.docstoc.com/profile/twyford


Indeed Mr V.
Just like that one! :wink:
Well spotted.
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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
PostPosted: 09 Nov 2009 1:13 pm 
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Got to love teamwork! :)

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 Post subject: Seismic Event
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2009 2:04 am 
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By the way, the night before the Pacific earthquake and tsunami that hit
Sumatra again, I saw Mel Gibson`s version of "Mutiny on the Bounty". That movie always gets to me, whether it`s the Charles Laughton, Marlon Brando, or Mel Gibson version. Mel did not have enough Tahitian dancing at all, however there was the one scene of his paramour dancing. She wasn`t even wearing any leaves! Anyway, those Tahitian drums always get to me. Remember what happened when I saw my Tongan neighbors rehearsing their line-chant dance for a gathering? - the Tongan underwater volcano.

Thomas D., it seems to me by your swaggering and condescending attitude that you are probably a large man. Alexius is more than another name for the same person (like a certain fellow on the Forum who has used 3 names yet is always the same person). If a sensitive scholar comes on this Forum and is attacked repeatedly until he departs, the surviving persona who returns is going to be markedly different. I told you all along that I was dealing with someone who changed personalities daily and I was very careful with them all.

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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2009 2:16 am 
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You know what folks? I feel a seismic event coming on. Somewhere in the Pacific ring.


That would be me if this continues.

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By the way, the night before the Pacific earthquake and tsunami that hit
Sumatra again, I saw Mel Gibson`s version of "Mutiny on the Bounty". That movie always gets to me, whether it`s the Charles Laughton, Marlon Brando, or Mel Gibson version. Mel did not have enough Tahitian dancing at all, however there was the one scene of his paramour dancing. She wasn`t even wearing any leaves! Anyway, those Tahitian drums always get to me. Remember what happened when I saw my Tongan neighbors rehearsing their line-chant dance for a gathering? - the Tongan underwater volcano.


GET A MAP.

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 Post subject: Quake
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It was a South Pacific underwater earthquake that ended up over in Sumatra
it encompased the entire area.

Who threatened Lori? Is a critique of her novel viewed as a threat?

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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2009 2:26 am 
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I consider the PM I got awhile ago from LsoniaL a threat against myself and another person. I let it go but if it happens again now I know the M.O. I will take action.

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 Post subject: Sonia
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2009 2:28 am 
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Oh yes, those famous PMs from Lady Sonia L.
She appreciates how I take her "brutal honesty".
I think she`s English as a 2nd language.
She`s traveling right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
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I don't think anyone one of those alledged "persona's" Renne will like my brutal honesty.
All for one and one for all.
If you think by putting a few disclaimer posts on the forum is going to dissuade anyone of your complicity in the matter.
I suggest you stop laughing and think again.

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 Post subject: Re: Seismic Event
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2009 2:52 am 
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Renne wrote:
Thomas D., it seems to me by your swaggering and condescending attitude that you are probably a large man. Alexius is more than another name for the same person (like a certain fellow on the Forum who has used 3 names yet is always the same person). If a sensitive scholar comes on this Forum and is attacked repeatedly until he departs, the surviving persona who returns is going to be markedly different. I told you all along that I was dealing with someone who changed personalities daily and I was very careful with them all.

What the hell?????? Does anyone have a straight jacket? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
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What the hell?????? Does anyone have a straight jacket?


That would presuppose this was case that required medical intevention whereas from the evidence coming to light it is more a case of "deliberate & knowing" action.


Anyway this is detracting from the book that you are writing, Lori which from the small portions you have put up seem to me a wonderful novel. One I would only be too pleased to read when it comes out. I'm completely enamoured of the title and the humanity that you have represented so well in your descriptive passages.

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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
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Thanks Rain. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2009 1:20 pm 
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Hopefully Lori won't mind me putting this on her Emma Calve thread, but the Societe Perillos article below seems to be examining possible connections between the famous diva and the character of Bianca Castafiore in Herge's Adventures of Tintin. I say "seems to" because the article is in French and I only just found it. The SP seem to have given up translating their articles from French to English, as it's been about five months since they did so. This is a real shame for anglophones such as myself, and one can only speculate as to the reasons why this might be ...

Anyway, as a lifelong Tintin fan, the article caught my eye, so here it is.

http://www.societe-perillos.com/castafiore1.htm

Bianca Castafiore was a recurring character in several of the Tintin books, and made her first apperance in one of the very best - "King Ottakar's Sceptre". The running joke in respect of this character was her awful singing, that often used to send Tintin's dog Snowy (Milou) fleeing from the room. The book referenced most in the article is the one in which she had a starring role - "The Castafiore Emerald" - which is a nice, gentle sort of story set entirely at Captain Haddock's home, Marlinspike Hall (making it one of those rare Tintin adventures - "The Seven Crystal Balls" and "The Secret of the Unicorn" are the only others I can think of - where the character does not travel out of Belgium). It would seem, from the bits of text I could understand, and the pictures, and the captions, that there are similarities in this book with certain aspects of Calve's career, and even in some of the language used in Herge's text, so it would appear that the real life singer might have been an influence on Herge when creating his imaginary one.

Speaking of "The Seven Crystal Balls", this book is also referenced, and the article includes (very gratifyingly for me, being such a fan) a photo of the real house in the suburbs of Brussels, that the house in which some of the action was set was based on.

This is the first part of a longer article, with at least another part to follow. I'm now going to try and make more sense of it.

Sorry, Lori, if that is a little away from the subject of the thread, but I thought the notion of a fictional character being based on Calve was quite interesting, and thought you and others might like to see it. And there are some good pictures in there as well. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Emma Calvé and Tin tin
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interesting- i have read all of the TinTin stories and thought of Emma as Bianca as well.
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 Post subject: Rodrigo
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Complicity?

Rodrigo and Colin are part of the history of Rennes le Chateau.

I think that your fiction is o.k. too, sorry that Alexius objected to it.

By the way, isn`t the first commandment of the Forum not to reveal

the identies of Forum members? We`re just trying to avoid lawsuits here -

I don`t know whether Andrew is home from his trip yet.

We barely know Lady Sonia, but she is interesting. We stand by the Castillon diary as always.

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 Post subject: Re: Rodrigo
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Renne wrote:
By the way, isn`t the first commandment of the Forum not to reveal

the identies of Forum members?


Are you reading a different set of forum rules than I am?

I don't see anything in the House Rules that guarantees a right to anonymity.

I do see rule 3.7.
3.7 reveal personal details which could lead to a person’s safety being compromised

If Mr. Houlding's life or safety is in danger, let us know. Otherwise, I believe no rules have been broken.

Hey, anonymity is something people exercise on most Internet forums. You have a right to be anonymous.

People also have a right to wonder why you won't use your real name. I've suggested three reasons why people don't. I'm not saying they're exhaustive, of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Rodrigo
PostPosted: 11 Nov 2009 12:27 am 
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Dear Renne,
Many thanks for finally sharing that CAH=COLIN=TWYFORD=ALEXIUS!
It was probably the worst kept secret on the form but thanks anyway for confirming it.
BTW your diagnosis about his multiple personality disorder, are you professionally qualified to express that opinion or is it a IMHO?

[quote="Renne"]Complicity?

By the way, isn`t the first commandment of the Forum not to reveal
the identies of Forum members?


Thats a very interesting statement, however it seems at odds with your behavior over the last few months.
It was you who first published the alleged 'translator's' name and initials.
It was you who kept sharing little biog items of his to facilitate tracking him down.
It was you who confirmed his multiple identity yesterday.

Why have you been so keen to 'out' him when you are espousing anonimity ? :shock:

I don`t know whether Andrew is home from his trip yet.

Every single item relating to Colin Houlding mentioned in the last two days is a matter of public record. Indeed you've provided most of the clues!!!!!!!!

The Moderator has not commented yet on this discussion. Surely, if he had issues we'd have been informed.

You stand by the 'Diary'? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here's an easy, straight forward question Mary For you...........one word answer.

"Have you ever seen the original Diary?"

You have confirmed that Colin has perpetrated a deception with his multiple IDs so why should anyone believe a word he says about this 'Diary'?
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