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The Druid Ostara (Easter) Foot anointing ritual





8She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying.

9Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

MARK 14: 8 - 9

Outside Magdalene Church in Saint Louis




On one of the doors
looks like a tree

TCP why don't you find me a source saying Foot anointing wasn't part of their Communion
I found a source

Like I said Feur was in on this
What seems out of place is the pink and white drape over her
Its like all the disciples are wearing different shades of red
that she is wearing red also includes her with the disciples

LOL! New Age Druids! Total rip-off of Gardnerian Wiccans blended with lingering Christianity. This HAD to have come from the U.S.

TCP

Right after I find a source that confirms FDR was not involved in the Kennedy assassination.



LOL! You just said further up the thread that you believed this window depicted the scene in Luke! No Disciples in that scene, Lov. Do you see halos on anyone but Jesus and "the Sinner"? That's 'cause they're Pharisees, not the Disciples.

TCP

Well here's an Old Age Druid that didn't come from the US. (Well apart from his mother)


The man right/centre is Winston S Churchill

Here's another that comes from Canterbury.

Archbishop in fact



You still have yet to explain to me why the other people in the stained glass window do not have a halo.



Start with Saint John the Beloved immediately to the right of Jesus

What even SAINT John the Beloved immediately to the right of Jesus? He[?] with the characteristic tilt of the head towards Jesus?


He appears to have a halo here below. Right next to Jesus with his Celtic Cross in the halo.

A little lax of Sauniere that (according to you) he didn't include SAINT Lazarus in the picture. eh?



JOHN 12: 1 -3. The passage included immediately before the plain text of the parchment.

It's especially odd since SAINT Lazarus appears in several other places in the church

He knows that, Roger. It's just Roscoe's way to beat a dead horse to bloody mush. It's an attention-getting mechanism that most of us outgrow by age ten.



Roscoe, maybe you and Lovuian can excuse yourselves for a bit and come to some accord as to whether the scene in the RLC church window reflects the narrative in Luke or in John. They're quite different. Then perhaps you can at least attempt to appear as though you'd accomplished some form of rational analysis, instead of coming across as unnecessarily belligerent.

TCP

Luke
6Now one of the Pharisees invited Jesus to have dinner with him, so he went to the Pharisee's house and reclined at the table

Its ONE Pharisee it his house not all of the men sitting at the table are Pharisees read the passage
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=31;

When the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, "If this man were a prophet, he would know who is touching him and what kind of woman she is—that she is a sinner."

40Jesus answered him, "Simon, I have something to tell you."
"Tell me, teacher," he said.



Plus the Church is confused in this
but like I said lets go with LUKE
Were the owners of the house the same? They were both named Simon, but this was a common name of the time: two of the disciples were named Simon (Simon Peter, Simon the Zealot), as well as Judas Iscariot's father (Jn 6:71) and one of Jesus' brothers (Mk 6:3). One Simon is described as a Pharisee and the other as "Simon the Leper". Since "Pharisee" only means that one adhered to the beliefs of that sect, a leper could theoretically be a Pharisee, albeit a permanently unclean one. But if a man is a leper, and known as "Simon the Leper," it's unlikely he would be described simply as a Pharisee.

Lets look at the actual sentence



But wheres your documentation that is Pharisees sitting at the table
Have a source? can you give me a link?

"The account of the marriage of Jesus with Mary Magdalene lies very close to the surface of the gospel narratives. It is easy to sense the erotic element in the story of the woman with the alabaster flask of pure nard, who poured it over Jesus, so that the house was filled with the fragrance of ointment" Note 1

Dr Barbara Thiering

PhD in Theology 1973

Studied the Dead Sea scrolls for over twenty years
http://www.rose-croix-veritas.com/mary_magdalene.htm

the anointment of the feet of Jesus by Mary Magdalene, signify a quite definite allusion to the marriage of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.[url]

its the WEDDING COUPLE the Sun and the Moon who have halos touching caressing all to see but only those who will see that's the gift of illumination

In my church, one washes off his feet against those who have ignored his testimony. It is a sign that they have heard the gospel and have refused it.

saying Druids are New AGERS

A Quote from Caesar

The druids usually hold aloof from war and do not pay war taxes with the rest; they are excused from military service and exempt from all liabilities.

OMG

they are one of the OLDEST Religions
You so called Historians don't know this

Julius Ceasar talks about the Druids
that's before Christ was born guys

Unbelievable

Roscoe put up a thread and we are discussing the stained glass windows at Rennes Chateau

are you guys getting worried we maybe getting more attention than you?


I'm not at the supper table oiling feet to get attention
I'm talking about a Anointing of a King

the victim, passed with the unguent into the stone. Thus such divinity could, by anointing, be transferred into men as well. In several temple reliefs in Ancient Egypt
Ancient Egypt

Ancient Egypt was an Ancient history civilization in eastern North Africa, concentrated along the lower reaches of the Nile in what is now the modern nation of Egypt....
the Pharaoh
Pharaoh

Pharaoh is a title used in many modern discussions of the ancient Egyptian rulers of all periods. In antiquity this title began to be used for the ruler who was the religious and political leader of united ancient Egypt, only during the New Kingdom, specifically, during the middle of the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt....
is depicted being anointed by Horus
Horus

Horus is a god of the Ancient Egyptian religion, most commonly known by the Greek language version Horus, of the Egyptian language Heru/Har....
(sun god and "father" of Pharaoh) and Thoth
Thoth

Thoth, , though variations are accepted , was considered one of the more important god of the Egyptian pantheon, often depicted with the head of an Sacred Ibis....
(god of wisdom), the oil of which is symbolically depicted as a stream of ankh
Ankh

The ankh was the Egyptian hieroglyphic character that read "eternal life", a triliteral sign for the consonants Ayin-Nun -?a'. Egyptian gods are often portrayed carrying it by its loop, or bearing one in each hand, arms crossed over their chest....
s (symbols of life). Also, especially from the New Kingdom
New Kingdom

The New Kingdom, sometimes referred to as the Egyptian Empire, is the period in ancient Egyptian History of Ancient Egypt between the 16th century BC and the 11th century BC, covering the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt, Nineteenth dynasty of Egypt, and Twentieth dynasty of Egypt....
onward, anointing is often depicted in intimate scenes between husband and wife, where the wife is shown anointing her spouse, as a sign of affection. The most famous example of this is on the throne
Throne

A throne is the official chair or seat upon which a monarch is seated on state or ceremonial occasions. "Throne" in an abstract sense can also refer to the monarchy or the Crown itself, an instance of metonymy, and is also used in many terms such as "power behind the throne"....
of Tutankhamun
Tutankhamun

Tutankhamun , Egyptian language was an Ancient Egypt Pharaoh of the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt , during the period of History of Egypt known as the New Kingdom....
.http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Anointing

In Christian Europe, the Merovingian monarchy was the first to anoint the king in a coronation ceremony

Oh no they're not Pharisee's.

There you go now I've just made an argument of equal value to the one you made.

No argument as to why, just say it and try to use the my perceived moral high ground to carry through the argument. It's the same with Orval, just say something and act indignant if I disagree. Trouble is your perceived high ground is rapidly crumbling.





It's from JOHN 12 as in the plain text of the shepherdess parchment.

Then for rational analysis I use JOHN 12:2

2There they made him a supper; and Martha served: but Lazarus was one of them that sat at the table with him.

Which part of Lazarus sat at the table don't you understand? That would be SAINT Lazarus sat at the table by the way.

Follow me so far?

But SAINT Lazarus being at the table doesn't appear to have a halo. But SAINT Mary of Bethany does.

But if that doesn't satisfy you then perhaps you can describe who you think the figure on the immediate right hand of Jesus is. The one with the head tilted towards Jesus. A Pharisee? Shall we take a vote on it?

There's some serious head tilting going on here. Check out the red hair in both instances.



So we know why Jesus has a halo (with the Sun sign in it) but why does Mary (of Bethany) have a halo but not SAINT Lazarus or SAINT John the Beloved

So tell me what the spin is to be now then?

That Sauniere only read the Gospel of Luke and didn't bother reading the Gospel of John.

The Priestess pours water into the foot bowl in front of the first participant (East of the circle entrance). She bathes the feet of the participant as the Priestess recites:

Let this Water cleanse your Feet
so that the Energy of the Divine Earth
Flows into you more easily,
filling you
With Healing and Love.

From the Druid ceremony of Ostara - . Better known as Easter

Six days before the Passover.(John 12:1)

Passover begins on the 15th day of the month of Nisan (equivalent to March in the Gregorian calendar), the first month of the Hebrew calendar's festival year according to the Hebrew Bible. So that's 9th march plus the Gregorian correction.

Would that be the foot anointing on 19th March then ? Isn't that the Spring Equinox?

The magical image of Malkuth is that of a young woman crowned and throned. The woman is Malkah, the Queen, Kallah, the Bride. She is the inferior mother, a reflection and realisation of the superior mother Binah. She is the Queen who inhabits the Kingdom, and the Bride of the Microprosopus. She is Gaia, Mother Earth, but of course she is not only the substance of this world; she is the body of the entire physical universe.

Mother/Earth goddesses to Malkuth, because some of them correspond more closely to the superior mother Binah. There is a close and deep connection between Malkuth and Binah which results in the two sephiroth sharing similar correspondences, and one of the oldest Kabbalistic texts1 has this to say about Malkuth:

“The title of the tenth path [Malkuth] is the Resplendent Intelligence. It is called this because it is exalted above every head from where it sits upon the throne of Binah. It illuminates the numinosity of all lights and causes to emanate the Power of the archetype of countenances or forms.”

The female quality of Malkuth is often identified with the Shekhinah, the female spirit of God in the creation, and Kabbalistic literature makes much of the (carnal) relationship of God and the Shekhinah. Waite2 mentions that the relationship between God and Shekhinah is mirrored in the relationship between man and woman, and provides a great deal of information on both the Shekhinah and what he quaintly calls “The Mystery of Sex”. After the exile of the Jews from Spain in 1492, Kabbalists identified their own plight with the fate of the Shekhinah, and she is pictured as being cast out into matter in much the same way as the Gnostics pictured Sophia, the outcast divine wisdom.

http://www.spiralnature.com/magick/kabbalah/nok-malkuth.html

The foot is the lowest point of the body that is connected to the energy of the Earth

Yep!

Christ and the Hare
Rennes les Bains church

HARE: (Gaelic - GEÀRR) Druidic symbol of Rebirth, Intuition and Balance.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5akrEjrVWo]
Apollo riding a White Swan Click![/url]

You know it looks like Christ is sitting in a Armchair
like the Devil's Armchair

I'm looking at the stained glass Maker
H something between the H and F
Feur
But H Feur of Bordeaux in 1902
You know who lived coincidentally in Bordeaux very wealthy too
Baron Henri James de Rothschild had a vineyard there

And the stained glass master had to be in on the message Sauniere was talking about... A stained glass maker has creative license to do what he wants once the contract is signed Its because they know what will fit in the architecture of the chapel and the effect they want to produce

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_de_Rothschild

gosh Henri Feur and Fleury Tableau are not that far off

Just thinking out loud

Are you being serious Lovuian ???
I mean that sincerely.
Regards
Nic

http://www.awitness.org/biblehtm/lu/lu7.htm

From the Gospel According to Luke:

7:39 Now when the Pharisee who had invited him saw it, he said to himself, "This man, if he were a prophet, would have perceived who and what kind of woman this is who touches him, that she is a sinner."

7:49 Those who sat at the table with him began to say to themselves, "Who is this who even forgives sins?"

Verse 39 clearly delineates Simon as "the Pharisee who had invited him", as opposed to others present, as delineated in Verse 49, who question by what authority Jesus presumes to forgive sin. Clearly not his own disciples.




And quite an overactive imagination, by reputation.



Too bad foot anointing isn't a component of the Jewish marriage ceremony, otherwise Thiering might sound credible. I believe Thiering was the one who originally posited that any Jewish woman in those times was proscribed from touching an adult man who was not her husband. Which is patently false, this proscription falls against married women touching other men; if Magdalene wasn't married to anyone, then there was no religious proscription against her washing the feet of Jesus or anyone else.

Look back up to Verse 39 from Luke 7:

"This man, if he were a prophet, would have perceived who and what kind of woman this is who touches him, that she is a sinner."

The "distress" of the Pharisee comes not from the fact that "any" woman is touching him, but that a "sinner" is touching him.

TCP

You have ask that, Nic?

TCP

Y'know what Tim, sometimes I just can't tell here anymore.
Regards
Nic

This is hysterical!

Click on the link to take you to the full description of this "Druid" ceremony:

*SALT in a container. Representative of EARTH/NORTH.
*INCENSE in a holder. Representative of AIR/EAST.
*OIL LAMP/CANDLE. Representative of FIRE/SOUTH.
*Cup of WATER. Representative of WATER/WEST.

No Druid who knows ANYTHING about authentic Druid ritual would cast a WICCAN circle or lay directional quarters! Nor would any self-respecting Druid refer to Mean Earrach, the Spring Equinox, by it's Germanic name Ostara! These people are "Neo-Druids", aka Wiccans playing dress-up!

Foot anointing, indeed! Let's throw a little Christianity into the mix for good measure, shall we?

Laughable!

TCP

What you don't seem to understand, Lov, is that there is very little known today about historically authentic Druid rites because they were committed to memory and passed orally. There are "reconstructionist" Druids today who adhere strictly to what little has been preserved, but they are in the minority; the vast majority of those today styling themselves "Druids" are actually "Neo-Druids", which is an offshoot of Gardnerian Wicca with a lot of Freemasonry thrown into the mix. As evidenced by the link Roscoe provided to a group which is using the Wiccan circle, directional quarters, and non-Celtic elements of "Ostara" in their ritual setting. Not a very good example if your goal is to prove that Druids traditionally practiced a foot-washing ceremony.

TCP

ROTFLMFAO!!!

Oh, Lov - the day I would ever want, let alone envy the sort of attention you seem to attract is the day I need to be put out to pasture for good!

Thanks for the good laugh though!

TCP