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 Post subject: Psychism and Rennes-le-Chateau
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2012 10:20 am 
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...it was 26 years ago this April for me!

Given the general mindset and interest of posters and regulars I've experienced on this site since 2006 I guess I'll be about to get slammed for this, so if you're not willing to accept that there's a'psychic' aspect to the mystery - that often intervenes - then I'd skip this link now;

http://blog.world-mysteries.com/mystic- ... e-phoenix/

Of course you've got to have had your own experience of the unknown to know what I mean otherwise the natural response is to dismiss out of hand. Maybe some people have more attuned activity in a particular brain lobe?

I know David Wood had many a psychic experience 'helping' him in his pioneering work and for confidentiality I've never really spoke of them on his behalf. As I point out,there's those who have experienced the reality of this aspect and those, perhaps most, who haven't. I asked Ben Hammott last year if he ever had and the reply was an expected 'no'.

Would be very interested in any of you out there who could contribute any strange, at least, experiences during your interest or course of groundwork.

I agree, though, that the whole Bugarach thing has now possibly gotten well out of hand, but, hey, we were first!!


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 Post subject: Re: Psychism and Rennes-le-Chateau
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2012 5:53 pm 
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Ben said no ? There a passage in his book, can't remember the page, where he pays an nocturnal visit to 'the tomb', and all of a sudden a disembodied female voice gives him abuse (in English). Scary !


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Pilrig wrote:
Ben said no ? There a passage in his book, can't remember the page, where he pays an nocturnal visit to 'the tomb', and all of a sudden a disembodied female voice gives him abuse (in English). Scary !


You would not get me in a cave or tomb at night there
even if you gave me a couple of bottles of high alcohol contents


I know this maybe silly and superstitious but from what I have seen in a New Orleans stained glass window
showing a bunch of dark spirits hanging over the Capetians heads....Blanche Castile one of them
I believe there maybe a curse or a bunch of dark forces guarding the area
The Acadians may have known about it
It is Cathar country and St Louis had to wonder at his defeat in the Holy Land


The devil's armchair for one indicates and the other dark fello in the church
seems to play to the theme Beware treasure hunters

I know spooky but the ghost tours in New Orleans are well attended :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Psychism and Rennes-le-Chateau
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2012 7:15 pm 
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..actually Pilrig, ben DID mention the 'disembodied' voice incident to me in person but I don't think he was fully convinced with it being in English.

A couple of years ago, incidentally, Andy Gough asked me f I knew of any red hot medium as he was trying to rope in a select crew to instigate a seance to try and contact Sauniere. Now, I don't believe for a moment you can get info from people who have died, but I do know you can get info from a pooled Collective Unconscious of liable attendants at such a gathering such is the complexity of the human brain and Mind, it can just offer up accurate info by tapping in actual events past/present, so it didn't seem like a completely pointless idea. It never happened tho' and it suprises me why with all those 'mediums' out there contacting 'dead' celebs, nobody has tried the Sauniere gig to ask 'him' what it was all about!


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Ben said no ? There a passage in his book, can't remember the page, where he pays an nocturnal visit to 'the tomb', and all of a sudden a disembodied female voice gives him abuse (in English). Scary !

Actually i was there when that happened.

It was scary.

But i think one of the crew were probably playing a trick on us ....


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PostPosted: 18 Feb 2012 9:23 pm 
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nobody has tried the Sauniere gig to ask 'him' what it was all about!

A while back, i swear to God, in the Villa Bethania there was a group of Americans carrying a hand held device with a flickering red light on it.
It was apparently a machine to pick up the spirit of Sauniere.
And the american holding the device was saying into the 'ether' - "Sauniere, let us know if you are here ..."

I was so bloody disgusted and offended i had to live the villa ....


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bergeredearcadie wrote:
nobody has tried the Sauniere gig to ask 'him' what it was all about!

A while back, i swear to God, in the Villa Bethania there was a group of Americans carrying a hand held device with a flickering red light on it.
It was apparently a machine to pick up the spirit of Sauniere.
And the american holding the device was saying into the 'ether' - "Sauniere, let us know if you are here ..."

I was so bloody disgusted and offended i had to live the villa ....


Oh Wow
American Ghostbusters!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm not surprised Ghost Hunters is a popular show here

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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2012 10:52 am 
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..wonder if Derek Acorah has read HBHG?

:lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Psychism and Rennes-le-Chateau
PostPosted: 19 Feb 2012 2:35 pm 
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bergeredearcadie wrote:
Ben said no ? There a passage in his book, can't remember the page, where he pays an nocturnal visit to 'the tomb', and all of a sudden a disembodied female voice gives him abuse (in English). Scary !

Actually i was there when that happened.

It was scary.

But i think one of the crew were probably playing a trick on us ....


I wondered why the voice was in English. It is a lovely area, no doubt about that but after dark it can get a little bit creepy, or maybe that's just me. We were over last summer and I drove down from Toulouse late at night, and the stretch twixt Limoux and Couiza driving down that valley in the wee small hours, the hairs on the back of my neck began to rise.
And I remember the passage in Rat Scabies and the Holy Grail when the boys are returning to Couiza from RLC late at night and in a thunderstorm, they pass that field full of horses, the field I think just before the junction to Jaffus. Lo and Behold no trace of horses the very next morning. So in the daytime the area is fine but come darkness....But like I said maybe it's just me.


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cj wrote:
..wonder if Derek Acorah has read HBHG?

:lol:


Derek Acorah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh3clLpAIpU


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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2012 8:21 pm 
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bergeredearcadie wrote:
Ben said no ? There a passage in his book, can't remember the page, where he pays an nocturnal visit to 'the tomb', and all of a sudden a disembodied female voice gives him abuse (in English). Scary !

Actually i was there when that happened.

It was scary.

But i think one of the crew were probably playing a trick on us ....


It shows me that Ben and Sandy did have a second in which they believed something was there.
:wink: It is interesting that you think it was a crewman but your not sure.

No one owned up to it wicked fello or maybe there was a female voice :shock:

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I wondered why the voice was in English. It is a lovely area, no doubt about that but after dark it can get a little bit creepy, or maybe that's just me. We were over last summer and I drove down from Toulouse late at night, and the stretch twixt Limoux and Couiza driving down that valley in the wee small hours, the hairs on the back of my neck began to rise.
And I remember the passage in Rat Scabies and the Holy Grail when the boys are returning to Couiza from RLC late at night and in a thunderstorm, they pass that field full of horses, the field I think just before the junction to Jaffus. Lo and Behold no trace of horses the very next morning. So in the daytime the area is fine but come darkness....But like I said maybe it's just me.


Pilrig your not the only one that has this feeling
You know a bit of the superstitions of the area
The Acadians came from here so here is a bit of speculation on my part
having to do with spirits and such
But hey we are talking about Psychism and Rennes
lets go down the rabbit hole

and remember this is a tale or story that came from the area
Noel Corbu talked about this legend

I think the Bigou Parchment is fascinating and could have been a bit alchemical and I believe the Acadians knew something of this temple which is referred to in the parchment

and there comes a warning with this legend

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It has to do with a cave near a river that splits in two and dark spirits hang about it
The Capetians are involved with it
especially Blanche Castile
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Sauniere spent time in the Couluers Valley collecting his strange rocks for his grotto
he also purchased land by the Couluers river.
pg 460 of Lost Tomb of the Knights Templar by Ben Hammott

http://benhammott.com/la-rue-tourne-noel-corbu.html
Noel Corbu's movie on Sauniere collecting the rocks along the Couleurs river
La Rue Tourne

Andrew Goughs article and Corjan de Raaf
http://andrewgough.co.uk/rom2.html


Here are the dark spirits that hang around the Capetians
and near the cave by a river that splits
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on top of the dark faces there is the reflective reptilian eye of a dragon reflected by the light
Who can the spirits be ?Guardians of the Treasure or Temple?
The Capetians took part in the Cathar genocide ...is it the spirits of the Parfaits or the Crusader knights who guard it

I think Noel Corbu knew very well about this legend and wrote it down

Speculation of course but we are talking the spirit world and talking priests trained in Spiritual works

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 Post subject: Re: Psychism and Rennes-le-Chateau
PostPosted: 19 Feb 2012 9:48 pm 
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We had a good few otherworldly experiences when we were there, some I doubt I'd ever tell because others would find them hard to believe or would think I was making them up......enough to say that they were gave every impression of being other dimensional. Van Buren and Woody had their share of weird stuff...didn't Elizabeth see a being with a 'bear' head pop up from out of the ground?!!

Woody saw ufo's too and on one occasion when he was stumped as which way to pursue his groundwork, just as he was pointing a particular direction, one solitary thunderclap boomed above him as if sanctioning the decision. His co-author Ian Campbell went to Montsegur with the Rennes group when Gay Roberts Editor of Rennes Obsever came running down the road screaming 'Get me out of here!' She had had a vision and was one of the Cathars walking down the hillside into the flames.
And - honestly I swear on my family's lives - we once caught a smiling Templar on a horse pick up on a casual photo taken in Sauniere's garden...he was staring right into the camera!

We've had strange experiences at the Templars Temple Bruer 12 miles south of Lincoln cathedral too, strange things picking up on film and once, when American 'psychic' Gloria Amendola and her friend was with us - she has a commanderie at Rennes - strange aerial phenomena appeared in the sky above us just as we were leaving there. For another account of 'psychic' weirdness going on at Bruer, check this '2/2 Ghosts of Sleaford ' clip;

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8S7tw8-oac

Dowsing rods do cross in all corners of the Preceptory, have seen it and experienced it myself.


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Van Buren and Chaplin all seem to have psychic abilities
I wonder if Lincoln had any strange occurences?

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PostPosted: 20 Feb 2012 7:00 am 
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At La Valdieu there were a number of English families who, like Daniel, had arrived seperately only with a knowing' that they had to be there. One told me that standing stones in the area moved of there own accord!!

Daniel, of whom most people at Rennes, think he's barmy, told us of 'the little people' - he meant fairies - who locals spoke of as populating the area known as Green Rock!
Boudet in his Celtique book mentioned the 'Lampos' - shape-shifters who were otherwise rock!


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