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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 4:04 pm 
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roscoe wrote:
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Richard J Daley
had incredible political power
The Daley family is very powerful political family

one of them serves President OBAMA
and they are major supporters of the Democratic Party
Kennedy
Carter
McGovern
Humphrey

He was a graduate from De Paul University
Chicago wouldn't be Chicago without Daley
He was instrumental in getting the Sears Tower in Chicago

He was there



“Synarchy...is ‘government by secret societies’,

or by a group of initiates who operate from behind the scenes.

It is an analogue of ‘theocracy’, or rule by a priesthood.”

~ Marquis Alexandre Saint-Yves d’Alveydre

Gaylord Freeman knew Donald Rumsfeld under President Ford


A United States of Europe
was that the plan?
the ECB...to control countries economic policies without representation by the people


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ETATS-UNIS d'OCCIDENT. This appeared in Plantard's cover of Vaincre. The journal of Statutes of Alpha Galates (First Gauls)

which comprised of Nine Degrees, the last three are called:

Son Excellence Druidique

Son Altesse Druidique

Sa Majesté Druidique

It depicts a knight carrying the Prieure de Sion standard heading towards the symbol for Aquarius, the next astrological age after the current age Pisces.

The road is between Brittany and Bavaria. GRAIL COUNTRY

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A United Europe was clearly a vision of Plantard’s 1940 vision, as expressed in the issues of Vaincre. And in the 1950s, a New York-based group called the American Committee on United Europe, whose leadership included General Bill Donovan, wartime head of the OSS (the fore-runner of the CIA), George Marshall, the US Secretary of State, and Allen Dulles, then Director of the CIA.
This high-powered CIA-funded pressure group financed the so-called European Movement, headed by Joseph Retinger, who promoted select gatherings of European and American politicians, businessmen, aristocrats, top civil servants and military leaders. It is also a group that would later inspire Prince Bernhard to create the Bilderberg group, which is now known to have equally been set up with CIA funding.

In 2000, declassified American government documents showed that the US intelligence community funded and directed the European federalist movement. One memorandum, dated July 26, 1950, gave instructions for a campaign to promote a fully fledged European parliament. It was signed by Gen. William J. Donovan, head of the American wartime Office of Strategic Services, precursor of the CIA. The vice chairman was Allen Dulles. The board included Walter Bedell Smith, the CIA’s first director, and a roster of ex-OSS figures and officials who moved in and out of the CIA.
The documents again showed that ACUE financed the European Movement, the most important federalist organization in the post-war years. In 1958, for example, it provided 53.5 per cent of the movement’s funds. Most interestingly, these documents again confirmed that the European Youth Campaign, an arm of the European Movement, was wholly funded and controlled by Washington.
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American Committee on United Europe was started by William J Donovan. Donovan also started GLADIO

I like the last sentence:

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The head of the Ford Foundation, ex-OSS officer Paul Hoffman, doubled as head of ACUE in the late Fifties. The State Department also played a role. A memo from the European section, dated June 11, 1965, advises the vice-president of the European Economic Community, Robert Marjolin, to pursue monetary union by stealth.

It recommends suppressing debate until the point at which "adoption of such proposals would become virtually inescapable".
- A Daily Telegraph article on newly released secret documents in 2000.

T.H.E.Y. want a Fascist Europe and a Fascist United States. By stealth this time.

Oh and by the way

This will include an "independent" :lol: Scotland. The banks will crush them until they play ball.

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The American side of the Priory didn't appreciate Plantard exposing them

as for Daley
photo shopped or not

He was there as TCP says

and when you look at all of them there
It is a powerhouse of people from Chicago
who at this moment has a president in the White house who is from Illinois
The Catholic political powerhouse Daley
The powerful Freeman with connections to Chase Morgan (Rockefeller) and the CIA as well as the US Treasury
and Chargall who is the philosopher king as we say

Yes Roscoe the United States of Europe
was on the horizon

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 Post subject: Re: The English Connection
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 4:20 pm 
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What about the second photo (further up the thread) from the same event? Does it look "shopped" to you as well? Any theories you'd like to share?


I'm refering to this one

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9679871@N04/6330212150/

no theories, it just doesn't look right to me


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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 5:11 pm 
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i'll be polite and just say i can't believe how thick you all are...can't you see what's in front of your eyes ?
where do you think the term "cut and paste" originated.
The Mayor is not "present" in the photograph, he has been cut and pasted in....nothing to do with the girl's sleeve...it's all in the shoulders.


I'd have to agree - not about us all being thick but that photo looks "shopped" to me


Hi Davinho - Well, you certainly made me look at it again, quite intently. I wonder if the (presumably) late Mrs Freeman ever had any idea she would one day be so scrutinised. And I still can't see anything untoward about it. But then, I am one of the "thick" ones, like Tim, so perhaps I just don't get it. :wink:

The thing is, as Tim has argued, we know that Mayor Daley was at this event, and even have the photographic and documentary evidence from the link he posted to demonstrate this. So, where's the great mystery? "Mayor of Chicago attends major cultural event in his own city." So what? Why wouldn't he?

Anyway, I don't suppose it really matters one way or the other, in the great scheme of things.

Agree to disagree? :D

Nice link, btw, the Chicago one, full of great archive photos from across the years, of a city with a very interesting history, to say the least.


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 Post subject: Re: The English Connection
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 5:23 pm 
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Hi Davinho - Well, you certainly made me look at it again, quite intently. I wonder if the (presumably) late Mrs Freeman ever had any idea she would one day be so scrutinised. And I still can't see anything untoward about it. But then, I am one of the "thick" ones, like Tim, so perhaps I just don't get it.

The thing is, as Tim has argued, we know that Mayor Daley was at this event, and even have the photographic and documentary evidence from the link he posted to demonstrate this. So, where's the great mystery? "Mayor of Chicago attends major cultural event in his own city." So what? Why wouldn't he?


I see your point, of course the picture still could have been "shopped" for non "sinister" purposes. Often if a photo op is not achieved or the right shot not taken then it will be created....nothing untoward in that. It was/is only my gut feeling that the picture is not right and I'm no photography expert


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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 5:40 pm 
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Question of perspective (as the Poussin tomb): it is quite impossible for the man to stand once in front of the lady (head) and once behind. But if one looks closely then these are the two perspectives the image "generates" due to the copy / paste action.


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 Post subject: Re: The English Connection
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 5:46 pm 
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who cares?

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 Post subject: Re: The English Connection
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 6:30 pm 
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Perhaps people who are looking closely at things to judge whether something may be real or faked? Quite important in the RLC business with all the escrocs and bottle makers, don't you think? :mrgreen:


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Hi Davinho - Well, you certainly made me look at it again, quite intently. I wonder if the (presumably) late Mrs Freeman ever had any idea she would one day be so scrutinised. And I still can't see anything untoward about it. But then, I am one of the "thick" ones, like Tim, so perhaps I just don't get it.

The thing is, as Tim has argued, we know that Mayor Daley was at this event, and even have the photographic and documentary evidence from the link he posted to demonstrate this. So, where's the great mystery? "Mayor of Chicago attends major cultural event in his own city." So what? Why wouldn't he?


I see your point, of course the picture still could have been "shopped" for non "sinister" purposes. Often if a photo op is not achieved or the right shot not taken then it will be created....nothing untoward in that. It was/is only my gut feeling that the picture is not right and I'm no photography expert


Given that this was a newspaper photo I would imagine several more were taken that day, and among them were likely several shots that would have fit the bill nicely, sans retouching.

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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 6:53 pm 
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The thing is, as Tim has argued, we know that Mayor Daley was at this event, and even have the photographic and documentary evidence from the link he posted to demonstrate this. So, where's the great mystery? "Mayor of Chicago attends major cultural event in his own city." So what? Why wouldn't he?


Not to mention the fact that a Google search using the terms "Richard Daley" and "Marc Chagall" will turn up a number of testimonials to the fact that the two men were great personal friends.

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 Post subject: Re: The English Connection
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 6:57 pm 
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Perhaps people who are looking closely at things to judge whether something may be real or faked?

Looking too hard for things that arent important more like.

Quite important in the RLC business with all the escrocs and bottle makers, don't you think?

I wouldnt know. I havent met any fakers ...


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 Post subject: Re: The English Connection
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 8:36 pm 
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Here is a larger version of the photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9679871@N0 ... otostream/

Personally, I see no reason to assume that this is a doctored photo and insisting that unless you do you are "thick" is reminiscent of Dave Rowett level image declarations. I think Richard's point about the line of the coat sleeve, combined with the space between Mrs. Freeman's jaw and Daley's shoulder are salient to the possible interpretation of "shopping", as are the bright, washed out background and Daley's flat hair. But that could all be perfectly normal as well in a relatively low resolution photo printed on newspaper, scanned into a computer and displayed on our different screens.

Either way, if the lesson from Roger is that signatures can be forged (or reproduced) and photos can be doctored...well thanks for waking us all up from our ignorance.

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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 9:16 pm 
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As the roof of the Poussin tomb just cannot be flat this pic shows a perspective that is just impossible. Not a question of who is right or not.


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I think the problem lies with the tonal highlights which seems to throw Daley into the foreground as opposed to him receding, which he should do if he were further away. Have to say i'm undecided myself.

Edit to add: If you cover the peoples' clothes with your hand and just look at the faces it does look very different; maybe it was the coat that threw us after all.

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 Post subject: Re: The English Connection
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 10:11 pm 
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@ everyone and no one in particular.

..It's so simple, what's the problem ...maybe it's my accent and you don't understand my Scottish burr, but all i said was....


Sheila wrote:
Hmmm...i had to really think about what a "bleu photo" is... and if i've got the right end of the stick then i reckon this is a rather obvious example of one.

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I'm not interested in the whys and wherefores, there are no sinister implications in my post...it was only to see IF i'd got the right understanding of what a "bleu photo" means, because it is a phrase i've never heard before and it interested me......Maybe this phrase means something else entirely, i don't know, but i was musing over the fact that IF a "bleu photo" meant what i THINK it means, then, this is a good example of one.....as in a tricked photo.

It's got nothing to do with anything else other than a straightforward observation that the Mayor, in this photo, has been cut and pasted in....and if you can't see what is obvious to me, so be it.


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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 11:20 pm 
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Sheila wrote:
I'm not interested in the whys and wherefores, there are no sinister implications in my post...it was only to see IF i'd got the right understanding of what a "bleu photo" means, because it is a phrase i've never heard before and it interested me......Maybe this phrase means something else entirely, i don't know, but i was musing over the fact that IF a "bleu photo" meant what i THINK it means, then, this is a good example of one.....as in a tricked photo.

It's got nothing to do with anything else other than a straightforward observation that the Mayor, in this photo, has been cut and pasted in....and if you can't see what is obvious to me, so be it.


It could also mean a photo of the Doctored transmissions/dossiers.
Le petit bleu - the blue paper telegraphs used to be sent on. Bleu papier. So therefore a photo of the photocopy.
For instance in the dreyfuss affair and the "bleu card".

Also Tertius is responding to the "auto-pen" which a machine used to sign on documents - so his reference is to documents not necessarily to photo's of people so wouldn't it be more likely he's referring to some kind of signed document?

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Il est triste de constater que certaines personnes ne savent pas differencier entre un tampon et une machine fort utile appelee "auto-pen". De la meme maniere ils semblent ignorer le "bleu photo".


Maybe Tertius you could put us out of misery and clarify what you meant, please? :P

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Sheila wrote:
I'm not interested in the whys and wherefores, there are no sinister implications in my post...it was only to see IF i'd got the right understanding of what a "bleu photo" means, because it is a phrase i've never heard before and it interested me......Maybe this phrase means something else entirely, i don't know, but i was musing over the fact that IF a "bleu photo" meant what i THINK it means, then, this is a good example of one.....as in a tricked photo.


Well, I know what "blue movies" are, but...

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I think the problem lies with the tonal highlights which seems to throw Daley into the foreground as opposed to him receding, which he should do if he were further away. Have to say i'm undecided myself.


I'm probably beating a dead horse to bloody mush here for no good reason whatsoever, but...

If you consider what the event portrays - the dedication of a Chagall mural done in ceramic tiles - then that bright "aura" could just be the reflection of stage lights. And Daley is leaning slightly forward and looking over to his right. If you look at the camera angle it isn't dead on.

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TCP wrote:
Sheila wrote:
I'm not interested in the whys and wherefores, there are no sinister implications in my post...it was only to see IF i'd got the right understanding of what a "bleu photo" means, because it is a phrase i've never heard before and it interested me......Maybe this phrase means something else entirely, i don't know, but i was musing over the fact that IF a "bleu photo" meant what i THINK it means, then, this is a good example of one.....as in a tricked photo.


Well, I know what "blue movies" are, but...

TCP


It does come up when you google it. I vote the next person that goes to France stands on the street corner with a camera and asks the next person they see if they can take a "blue photo" of them - then we'll see by their reaction.
What am I saying - Sheila you're already in France? You up for the job?

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TCP wrote:
Crow wrote:
I think the problem lies with the tonal highlights which seems to throw Daley into the foreground as opposed to him receding, which he should do if he were further away. Have to say i'm undecided myself.


I'm probably beating a dead horse to bloody mush here for no good reason whatsoever, but...

If you consider what the event portrays - the dedication of a Chagall mural done in ceramic tiles - then that bright "aura" could just be the reflection of stage lights. And Daley is leaning slightly forward and looking over to his right. If you look at the camera angle it isn't dead on.

TCP


Flog that photo :!: It's been a bad, bad horsey.


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1.Buying a stronger whip..
2.Changing riders.
3.Say things like, “This is the way we have always ridden this horse.”
4.Appointing a committee to study the horse.
5.Arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses.
6.Increasing the standards to ride dead horses.
7.Appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horse.
8.Creating a training session to increase our riding ability.
9.Comparing the state of dead horses in today’s environment.
10.Change the requirements declaring that “This horse is not dead.”
11.Hire contractors to ride the dead horse.
12.Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed.
13.Declaring that “No horse is too dead to beat.”
14.Providing additional funding to increase the horse’s performance.
15.Do a Cost Analysis study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper.
16.Purchase a product to make dead horses run faster.
17.Declare the horse is “better, faster and cheaper” dead.
18.Form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses.
19.Revisit the performance requirements for horses.
20.Say this horse was procured with cost as an independent variable.
21.Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position.

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TCP wrote:
Crow wrote:
I think the problem lies with the tonal highlights which seems to throw Daley into the foreground as opposed to him receding, which he should do if he were further away. Have to say i'm undecided myself.


I'm probably beating a dead horse to bloody mush here for no good reason whatsoever, but...

If you consider what the event portrays - the dedication of a Chagall mural done in ceramic tiles - then that bright "aura" could just be the reflection of stage lights. And Daley is leaning slightly forward and looking over to his right. If you look at the camera angle it isn't dead on.

TCP


Flog that photo :!: It's been a bad, bad horsey.


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1.Buying a stronger whip..
2.Changing riders.
3.Say things like, “This is the way we have always ridden this horse.”
4.Appointing a committee to study the horse.
5.Arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses.
6.Increasing the standards to ride dead horses.
7.Appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horse.
8.Creating a training session to increase our riding ability.
9.Comparing the state of dead horses in today’s environment.
10.Change the requirements declaring that “This horse is not dead.”
11.Hire contractors to ride the dead horse.
12.Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed.
13.Declaring that “No horse is too dead to beat.”
14.Providing additional funding to increase the horse’s performance.
15.Do a Cost Analysis study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper.
16.Purchase a product to make dead horses run faster.
17.Declare the horse is “better, faster and cheaper” dead.
18.Form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses.
19.Revisit the performance requirements for horses.
20.Say this horse was procured with cost as an independent variable.
21.Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position.


Wake me when you get to canonization...

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Wake me when you get to canonization...

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You've missed it - I'm already a Saint, it's the Horse that's a Sinner. Get it - it a play on Angels and Demons and the cheval de dieu. :wink: :wink:

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TCP wrote:
Wake me when you get to canonization...

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You've missed it - I'm already a Saint, it's the Horse that's a Sinner. Get it - it a play on Angels and Demons and the cheval de dieu. :wink: :wink:


Went right over my head! :lol:

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Sheila wrote:
@ everyone and no one in particular.

..It's so simple, what's the problem ...maybe it's my accent and you don't understand my Scottish burr, but all i said was....


Sheila wrote:
Hmmm...i had to really think about what a "bleu photo" is... and if i've got the right end of the stick then i reckon this is a rather obvious example of one.

Image


I'm not interested in the whys and wherefores, there are no sinister implications in my post...it was only to see IF i'd got the right understanding of what a "bleu photo" means, because it is a phrase i've never heard before and it interested me......Maybe this phrase means something else entirely, i don't know, but i was musing over the fact that IF a "bleu photo" meant what i THINK it means, then, this is a good example of one.....as in a tricked photo.

It's got nothing to do with anything else other than a straightforward observation that the Mayor, in this photo, has been cut and pasted in....and if you can't see what is obvious to me, so be it.


I only posted the picture to show what Gaylord Freeman looked like.

I wish I hadn't now.

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lovuian wrote:
roscoe wrote:
lovuian wrote:
Richard J Daley
had incredible political power
The Daley family is very powerful political family

one of them serves President OBAMA
and they are major supporters of the Democratic Party
Kennedy
Carter
McGovern
Humphrey

He was a graduate from De Paul University
Chicago wouldn't be Chicago without Daley
He was instrumental in getting the Sears Tower in Chicago

He was there



“Synarchy...is ‘government by secret societies’,

or by a group of initiates who operate from behind the scenes.

It is an analogue of ‘theocracy’, or rule by a priesthood.”

~ Marquis Alexandre Saint-Yves d’Alveydre

Gaylord Freeman knew Donald Rumsfeld under President Ford


A United States of Europe
was that the plan?
the ECB...to control countries economic policies without representation by the people


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ETATS-UNIS d'OCCIDENT. This appeared in Plantard's cover of Vaincre. The journal of Statutes of Alpha Galates (First Gauls)

which comprised of Nine Degrees, the last three are called:

Son Excellence Druidique

Son Altesse Druidique

Sa Majesté Druidique

It depicts a knight carrying the Prieure de Sion standard heading towards the symbol for Aquarius, the next astrological age after the current age Pisces.

The road is between Brittany and Bavaria. GRAIL COUNTRY

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A United Europe was clearly a vision of Plantard’s 1940 vision, as expressed in the issues of Vaincre. And in the 1950s, a New York-based group called the American Committee on United Europe, whose leadership included General Bill Donovan, wartime head of the OSS (the fore-runner of the CIA), George Marshall, the US Secretary of State, and Allen Dulles, then Director of the CIA.
This high-powered CIA-funded pressure group financed the so-called European Movement, headed by Joseph Retinger, who promoted select gatherings of European and American politicians, businessmen, aristocrats, top civil servants and military leaders. It is also a group that would later inspire Prince Bernhard to create the Bilderberg group, which is now known to have equally been set up with CIA funding.

In 2000, declassified American government documents showed that the US intelligence community funded and directed the European federalist movement. One memorandum, dated July 26, 1950, gave instructions for a campaign to promote a fully fledged European parliament. It was signed by Gen. William J. Donovan, head of the American wartime Office of Strategic Services, precursor of the CIA. The vice chairman was Allen Dulles. The board included Walter Bedell Smith, the CIA’s first director, and a roster of ex-OSS figures and officials who moved in and out of the CIA.
The documents again showed that ACUE financed the European Movement, the most important federalist organization in the post-war years. In 1958, for example, it provided 53.5 per cent of the movement’s funds. Most interestingly, these documents again confirmed that the European Youth Campaign, an arm of the European Movement, was wholly funded and controlled by Washington.
Societe Perillos

American Committee on United Europe was started by William J Donovan. Donovan also started GLADIO

I like the last sentence:

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The head of the Ford Foundation, ex-OSS officer Paul Hoffman, doubled as head of ACUE in the late Fifties. The State Department also played a role. A memo from the European section, dated June 11, 1965, advises the vice-president of the European Economic Community, Robert Marjolin, to pursue monetary union by stealth.

It recommends suppressing debate until the point at which "adoption of such proposals would become virtually inescapable".
- A Daily Telegraph article on newly released secret documents in 2000.

T.H.E.Y. want a Fascist Europe and a Fascist United States. By stealth this time.

Oh and by the way

This will include an "independent" :lol: Scotland. The banks will crush them until they play ball.

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The American side of the Priory didn't appreciate Plantard exposing them

as for Daley
photo shopped or not

He was there as TCP says

and when you look at all of them there
It is a powerhouse of people from Chicago
who at this moment has a president in the White house who is from Illinois
The Catholic political powerhouse Daley
The powerful Freeman with connections to Chase Morgan (Rockefeller) and the CIA as well as the US Treasury
and Chargall who is the philosopher king as we say

Yes Roscoe the United States of Europe
was on the horizon


Here's the names in the ENGLISH CONNECTION to conjure with

Sir Thomas Frazer
Only one by that name died in 1920
But the family has links to the Jacobites.

Captain Ronald Stansmore Nutting
(born in Dublin) who is reported by reliable sources to have been in British Intelligence MI5, and had sat on the board of directors of at least 14 companies.

Sir Alexander Aikman


Sir John Montague Brocklebank
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Glasgow Herald Sept 1959
Chairman of Cunard

Major Hugh Murchison Clowes
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Blackford
Baron Blackford (Glyn Mason, Conservative MP and Speaker of the House of Lords)

Viscount Frederick Leathers.
1st Viscount Leathers was Minister of War Transport in WWII
And he accompanied Churchill to the Yalta and Potsdam talks.
He negotiated the lend-lease of American ships to Britain.

Earl of Selbourne
Minister of Economic Warfare, was in overall charge of the Special Operations Executive (SOE), Britain's covert operations agency.
He was also a religious conservative of the Anglican Church, and a dedicated monarchist, even supporting a resurgence of monarchy in Europe. He studied genealogy and regularly visited the Pyrenees. He served as a director of North British and Mercantile Insurance, along with Sir Thomas Frazer.


These are the people who supposedly had/have the parchments allegedly found by Sauniere.

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 Post subject: Re: The English Connection
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I'm not sure if I posted this before, but the Maranatha book was printed by Clowes (from recollection when I followed the link, I seem to recall that Clowes is now part of a larger printing group) - as I guess thousands of books in the UK are..
Maybe a simple coincidence due to PPubs location anyway, or it may have been intentionally printed there to add an additional mysterious link or there may be some link. Presumably Duncan could answer that.

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