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i do believe you've either never read a word i've written over the years ...... or you seriously just haven't grasped the concept of the resurrection and eternal life.

Please dont patronise me.
I know exactly what you think.
I have just been waiting for you to come clean and actually say what your belief is.

Now, seeing as theologians have great difficulty in 'grasping' the 'concept' of resurrection and eternal life, why dont you tell me what your concept of the 'resurrection' and 'eternal' life is?
Just so we know EXACTLY where your bias lies, and what your 'belief' system is?
Seeing as you think i havent 'grasped the concept' of Ressurection why dont you tell me how you did 'grasp it'? From reading LSR and Circuit :)
What credentials has Plantard and Cherisey got in relation to them grasping the concept of what the Ressurection really was :)

Did your 'proof' come to you in a symbolic way, or have you somehow experienced it? Or is your 'grasp' of Resurrection and Eternal life based on intuition, or some such other emotion that makes you think there must be something else after life?
Then tell me your personal EVIDENCE for it, and then relate what your evidence is - that this is what Poussin was directing us to?

Now i dont say this to be contentious.
I fully respect you have a belief system about 'life after death'. And Ressurection.
But it can be so misunderstood cant it?
Is it literal or symbolic?
After all, lots of people have that belief system.
Theolgians and religious have been debating it for years since before the most famous Resurection of all ever occurred.

I dont think i ever did get around to speaking to you about that 'out of body ' experience i had - that set me on course to end up here in this place i am now.
And no i cant explain it. Still. And i havent forgotten it.

I can speak from that experience :)

But despite what you and others may think, there is no scientific evidence of Resurrection. If it is faith based that is fine.
But dont try and make out people are stupid if they dont agree with this faith based concept or dont agree with your interpretation of LSR and Circuit or what other religious people may be telling you ;).

Et in Arcadia ego...how can you possibly have read Le Serpent Rouge and le Alibi d'O and not understand that you are being pointed towards the Transfiguration...the continuity of time and life?


Heres the thing Sheila ...you have a belief system ..... and think you have it worked out. Thats fine.
I dont agree with it.
Before i'd go down the road of accepting your interpretation of LSR and what not, there is alot more to be ruled out ;)

And dont forget, the other option - Cherisey was completely pissed on wine when he wrote his 'works' ;)


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 Post subject: Re: The way to Arcadia.
PostPosted: 22 Jul 2012 2:56 am 
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TCP wrote:
lovuian wrote:
FELICITAS ...Lucky Happenstance ....is that the same as COINCIDENCE ....


"Felicitas" means neither "lucky" nor "happenstance", it means "happiness."

Happenstance and coincidence are not the same thing at all, one connotes random chance while the other connotes a perceived connection between two or more seemingly random events.

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I think many have talked about this and how Rennes Chateau has lots of these coincidences or happenstances like Sauniere dying on January 17


Saunière died on January 22.

TCP


Ok Tim
Sauniere collapsed on January 17 and then died January 22

the numbers 17 and 22 coincidentally come up at Rennes Chateau

Here is Deepak Chopra and Houston on Synchronicity

Jean Houston & Deepak Chopra on Good Luck, Synchronicity & & Margaret Mead LA COSTA Mon
http://youtu.be/3pfO2X5An4s

The goddess of Luck
has an eye on her crown
now why is that?


We are coming into the Olympics ...here is some comments by the winners on their Mental training and physical training

"In training everyone focuses on 90% physical and 10% mental, but in the races its 90% mental because there's very little that separates us physically at the elite level".
Elka Graham

"With so many people saying it couldn't be done, all it takes is an imagination."
Michael Phelps

"I wouldn't say anything is impossible. I think that everything is possible as long as you put your mind to it and put the work and time into it".
Michael Phelps

"I have been visualizing myself every night for the past four years standing on the podium having the gold placed around my neck."
Megan Quann

"Before the (Olympic) trials I was doing a lot of relaxing exercises and visualization. And I think that that helped me to get a feel of what it was gonna be like when I got there. I knew that I had done everything that I could to get ready for that meet, both physically and mentally".
Michael Phelps


Its called Visualization
and the goddess has an EYE on her crown
Creative visualization (sports visualization) refers to the practice of seeking to affect the outer world by changing one's thoughts and expectations.
The concept originally arose in the US with the nineteenth century New Thought movement. One of the first Americans to practice the technique of creative visualization was Wallace Wattles (1860–1911), who wrote The Science of Getting Rich
In this book, Wattles advocates creative visualization as the main technique for realizing one's goals; a practice that stems from the Hindu Monistic theory of the Universe that is subscribed to by the book.

Monism is a point of view within metaphysics which argues that the variety of existing things in the universe are reducible to one substance or reality and therefore that the fundamental character of the universe is unity.


Luck or fortunity is good fortune which occurs beyond one's control, without regard to one's will, intention, or desired result. There are at least two senses people usually mean when they use the term, the prescriptive sense and the descriptive sense. In the prescriptive sense, luck is the supernatural and deterministic concept that there are forces (e.g. gods or spirits) which prescribe that certain events occur very much the way the laws of physics will prescribe that certain events occur. It is the prescriptive sense that people mean when they state that they "do not believe in luck". In the descriptive sense, luck is merely a name we give to events after they occur which we find to be fortuitous and perhaps improbable.

Cultural views of luck vary from perceiving luck as a matter of random chance to attributing to luck explanations of faith or superstition. For example, the Romans believed in the embodiment of luck as the goddess Fortuna,[1] while the philosopher Daniel Dennett believes that "luck is mere luck" rather than a property of a person or thing

Many see coincidences as embedded in a higher, transcendental force, a cosmic "glue," as it were, which binds random events together in a meaningful and coherent pattern. The question has always been: could such a harmonizing principle actually exist?
Mathematician Warren Weaver, in his book, Lady Luck: The Theory of Probability, recounts a fascinating tale of coincidence that stretches our
traditional notions of chance to their breaking point.

The story originally appeared in Life magazine. Weaver writes: All fifteen members of a church choir in Beatrice, Nebraska, due at practice
at 7:20, were late on the evening of March 1, 1950.

The minister and his wife and daughter had one reason (his wife delayed to iron the daughter's dress) one girl waited to finish a geometry problem; one couldn't start her car; two lingered to hear the end of an especially exciting radio program; one mother and daughter were late because the mother had to call the daughter twice to wake her from a nap; and so on.

The reasons seemed rather ordinary. But there were ten separate and quite unconnected reasons for the lateness of the fifteen persons. It was rather fortunate that none of the fifteen arrived on time at 7:20, for at 7:25 the church building was destroyed in an explosion.

The members of the choir, Life reported, wondered if their delay was "an act of God." Weaver calculates the staggering odds against chance for this uncanny event as about one chance in a million.

Coincidences such as these, some say, are almost too purposeful, too orderly, to be a product of random chance, which strains somewhat to accommodate them.

But then how do we explain them? Another definition for SYNCHRONICITY. Synchronicity at this point can be defined as a series of seemingly unrelated events which are connected via a hidden agenda.


http://www.articlesbase.com/nlp-hypnosis-articles/synchronicity-and-luck-318752.html

CERN has found the "God Particle or could we call it the Goddess Particle"
It has a connection to the String theory


indicates that there may well be ten dimensions in existence, not merely the four that ones senses are currently aware of. (Length, breadth, width, time).

There is now considerable mathematical proof to indicate that ten dimensions exist. And most quantum physicists have given serious consideration to this theory. It would appear that the "hidden agenda" of synchronistic events may be transparent and obvious in one or more of these ten dimensions, but become opaque and difficult to fathom when viewed in our current restricted four dimensions.


the point is the Lady Luck has an eye in her crown ....is it possible in our dimension we only see four dimensions which clouds our view
Her eye sees the other dimensions clearly
Her eye is open wide

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 Post subject: Re: The way to Arcadia.
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 Post subject: Re: The way to Arcadia.
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I believe that this is the message Poussin was trying to get across..this is the older tradition that Chérisey is steering us towards. This is the message that you "awaken in the moment you die"...there is no death....Et in Arcadia Ego.


And what was his point in all this, why is he conveying this message(PdC). I do recall that you believe he was looking for something, and how does that "something" tie in with his message?


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and it's not Faustus btw...it's Fausta, there's a slight difference...Fausta means lucky.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You are so out of your depth it's laughable!

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 Post subject: Re: The way to Arcadia.
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C'est vraiment fascinant de voir ce qui est considere comme ridicule par des gens qui adorent des arbres ou des ruisseaux en meuglant des incantations empruntees a des cultures dont ils ne connaissent presque rien.

On pourrait meme appeler ca du culot, si on n'etait pas politiquement correct.


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Sheila wrote:
laugh all you want matey boy... i don't care, at least i'm trying.

She's known as Fausta Felicitas
Faustus, Fausta...lucky, favourable, propitious etc.


It's a bit more nuanced than that but I'll let Roger explain it to you, maybe then you'll pay attention.

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and my next port of call is Themis/Nemesis/Maat...she of the third eye.


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i end up having to go over and over everything because he nit-picks away at me till i make a mistake then he sits on his arse and laughs his head off...very clever i'm sure but highly annoying.


I just find the lightning speed with which you go from:

"not so fast laddie...away and check that before I tell you you're wrong."

to:

"I've already told you, away and do your own research."

to be humorously telling.

Suddenly you don't seem too sure of yourself. Maybe instead of getting your information from online obscure goddess directories (offering goddess oracle cards and gifts) you should seek out more scholarly sources.

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Sheila wrote:
....google books is an excellent source of old stuff, please do not tar me with your own brush.


"Fausta Felicitas is an ancient Roman Goddess of Good Fortune and Lucky Happenstance. Her name is essentially two words of the same meaning, likely doubled up for emphasis, for fausta in the Latin is the adjective "favorable" or "auspicious", while felicitas is the noun meaning "luck", "good fortune" or "happiness"; Her name can be translated as the nicely redundant "Lucky Luck", though "She of Auspicious Good Fortune" probably sounds better."

Sounds familiar?

The Obscure Goddess Online Directory

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicitas

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In Roman mythology, Felicitas (meaning "good luck" or "fortune") was the goddess or personification of good luck and success. She played an important role in Rome's state religion during the empire, and was frequently portrayed on coins. She became a prominent symbol of the wealth and prosperity of the Roman Empire.

The word felicitas, "luck", is also the source of the word and name felicity.


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Handbook to Life in Ancient Rome
Lesley Adkins, Roy A. Adkins - 1998 - 416 pages
FELICITAS: Goddess of good luck. Unknown before the mid-2 nd century BC, she
played an important part in the state religion during the empire. ...
books.google.fr


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An abridgment of Ainsworth's dictionary: English and Latin : ...
Robert Ainsworth, Thomas Morell, John Carey - 1837 - 1028 pages
of bringing luck, Lucky, Faustas, felix.
prosrper, secundus , ausptcaius ... Luckiness, Felicitas,
prosperitax- Lucrativt, lucriferovs, Lucrosos, quit* tuoros. Lucre, Lucrum,
books.google.fr


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First Latin reading book
Sir William Smith - 1867
felicitas, iitis, f. happiness, good fortune. [felix. ] fellciter, adv.
happily. [id.] felix, ieis, adj. happy, lucky, successful, fortunate.
books.google.fr


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Classical weekly
Classical Association of the Atlantic States, Classical Association of the Atlantic States - 1930
The latter epithet he translated into Latin as Felix, and, to spread the good
luck, he called his son Faustus and his daughter Fausta. ... Nevertheless this
new vogue of Venus was not unconnected with the belief in felicitas.
books.google.fr


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C'est vraiment fascinant de voir ce qui est considere comme ridicule par des gens qui adorent des arbres ou des ruisseaux en meuglant des incantations empruntees a des cultures dont ils ne connaissent presque rien.

On pourrait meme appeler ca du culot, si on n'etait pas politiquement correct.


You have a bit of dead saviour in your teeth, Roger. Early mass?

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David's painting of Ossian welcoming the spirits of the French heroes. Ossian as you undoubtedly know was the blind bardic son of Fionn mac Cumhaill (Fingal).
All praise James Macpherson and tae hell with Dr Johnson !


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Thank ye kindly Pilrig i have been wandering through the lore...it took me away there.
and my thanks again to Thorstein for setting me back on the path.


Thorstein, our Opera buff is back ?

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Thorstein, our Opera buff is back ?

TD :)

Well hello TD.

An acquaintance of mine prompted me to check out the latest (months old apparently) developments on Ben Hammott's genuine and certified discoveries :lol: :lol:
Perfect opportunity to check in and answer mails, that sort of thing. How is everyone?


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Queen Victoria (Alexandrina Victoria; 24 May 1819 – 22 January 1901) was
the monarch of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland from 20 June 1837 ...

Emma Calve always sang for Queen Victoria at Covent Garden when the queen was there.

In May 1900 the Queen was not there.

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Crimson_Ghost wrote:
Sheila wrote:
I believe that this is the message Poussin was trying to get across..this is the older tradition that Chérisey is steering us towards. This is the message that you "awaken in the moment you die"...there is no death....Et in Arcadia Ego.


And what was his point in all this, why is he conveying this message(PdC). I do recall that you believe he was looking for something, and how does that "something" tie in with his message?


Crimson_Ghost wrote:
Sheila wrote:
I believe that this is the message Poussin was trying to get across..this is the older tradition that Chérisey is steering us towards. This is the message that you "awaken in the moment you die"...there is no death....Et in Arcadia Ego.


And what was his point in all this, why is he conveying this message(PdC). I do recall that you believe he was looking for something, and how does that "something" tie in with his message?


About half way down the page - Horse of God - Mt Sebairou is one the places de Cherisey identifies.
Page 177 Priory of Sion by JLC book mentions it.
The Germans checked it out for us......see the following link.
http://www.gralssuche.ch/html/serbairou.html


Umm one of the other descriptions involves a lightness of being and visual hallcinations beads of electricity - like all matter is joined. Trying to find my link at the moment.
There is also Fulcanelli's supposed description aka Eugene. C. the X - again the same lightness of being - standing outside of time and matter.
There is also Irene Hillel-Erlanger reference to the magnetic anomalies on the earth's surface and alchemical and atmospheric temp gauge.(speculative sci-fi)?
C.S. Lewis bases the entrances to Narnia certain places such as the wardrobe and the tree from semi biographical experience he had from a diarama when he was younger.

There are perfectly prosaic explainations such as the flooding of the Nile and "Barbarini's temple of fortuna and it's nilemeter/nile mosaic" which is about the European Arcadian agricultural system and then conversely you have something that suggests there appears to be something that seems to be outside our science.

You've got to examine the evidence and make up your own mind. Research it - try to understand what is real what is false what simple explanations there could be or is there something outside our ability to understand and are we being manipulated into believing something that doesn't exist?

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