jlockest.......I understand the confusion I have caused regarding Merovingians .....and I agree with you.
TCP said; quit talking about your ancestry on this forum altogether and I won't bother you at all about the Kashmir Christ.
Then stop following me from forum to form, thread to thread, and asking me questions about my ancestry..
You peddled your story on the old PoS List, I think you were on the old Da Vinci Code List as well, then you came here, got kicked off, and now you're back peddling the same story and ranting about perceived wrongs. I've been here the whole time, not giving you a second thought until you showed up to pick right back up where you left off three years ago. Sounds like you're the one who can't "let go."
You were on the PoS forum with me...You were harassing me there too...I left on good terms to avoid you. The DaVinci Forum, that was Loretta Kemsley I recall...she and I also remained in touch and friends...and we are still friends through Facebook...the friendships made and forged here at Arcadia, have continued through the years too..why dont you clarify the "kicked off" part---and how Andrew got threats from Kathleen McGowan ....and from the looks of the posts here recently, there have been far more blatant slanders and accusations going on here than she accused me of years ago...
When I returned here recently, it was during the time when Andrew had expressed concerns about the tomb hoax....since we had remained friends and in touch all these years, even on Facebook, I asked if my experience with tombs and relics could help shed by comparison... when I came back here..I gave away more copies of my book than I sold...so it was not about promoting me or my book at all..but rather comparing one kind of tomb research and official contacts over another approach...There were no plots or schemes or ego driven compulsions to return here. How sad to put it that way....that is all made up in your head, Tim..
is the book about your "Merovingian" claims to descend from Roza Bal Jesus or isn't it?
Richard already answered that in his review of my book. He made it clear that he did not support the views that you, Tim, were expressing about me or my book on this forum..Yet you chose to ignore him and continue with your badgering....as though Richard's opinion meant nothing.. Had TCP read the book, it would be self-explanatory and none of this badgering and line of questioning would have been necesary...actually, it STILL is not appropriate under the circumstances.....This is why I loathe answering Tim over and over again...it is so pointless and just constitutes harassment.
The whole concept of "Merovingian" and a possible connection with desposyni was not begun by me. I am not sure how far back that originated. Was the concept first written in HBHG? Or 'Bloodline of the Holy Grail'? I don't know. I explained in previous posts that this concept did not originate with me. It would never have mattered to me, it would have remained a boring unrelated piece of history had it not been for two things....1.
First, I knew our family name was connected with the Crusades because of the family Museum..This is something that TCP has fought diligently...saying the family genealogy was/is 'wrong' or flawed or not reliable, and I should therefor retract my statements and my hypothesis.2.
Whoever started the bloodline hypothesis included names associated with my ancestors, according to the family Museum. Flawed or not, this is what brought me into this whole bloodline quest.
Apparently many people claimed decent from Jesus after this...some made blatantly false genealogies...some were outright nut cases with visions and reincarnations..either way, it was not an atmosphere that one would want to jump into. They sullied the field and that is obvious from Tim's angst .....
I said :When I entered Kashmir, I had no idea about DNA testing as a possible research tool. It was suggested that someone outside the Valley politics would have more luck and a warmer reception among the locals.. Due to Islamic law, only a family member would have the right to ask for such tests....and that is when it became imperative to include my own Merovingian descent in the DNA-bloodline quest. This helped establish a tentative relationship with Yuz Asaf and a valid reason for my request...This is what the researchers in Europe had concluded about me...and the researchers in India believed this led to the tomb of Jesus in Kashmir...Here is where the two theories met in one person..
Thus, my bloodline became imperative to this entire project in India...it was never about "playing to an audience" in the aftermath of "The DaVinci Code" dramas....but about establishing my own personal connection that would validate opening the tomb for DNA testing, and yet conform to Islamic religious requirements..
What I am saying in context here is that I was willing to put this taboo theory forward and represent myself as a possible
descendant, IF this meant we could recover the DNA..... it wasn't from a bragging point. It was a scientific-research stance. I did not start the Merovingian-desposyni concept....nor did I enter this with visions or hallucinations or in any outright attempt to fraud anyone..I took the next logical step in a series of "what if" questions raised by others..
I stand by this. I own it. And there is no cause for shame or regret in any of this. I didn't "invent" Merovingians, nor the concept of desposyni. I did not include myself in this theory. Others did that for me. I was/ and I am asking the next logical step....
"if this point A is correct, then how do we get to point B?" My answer is through DNA.
We have to start somewhere.
I am taking it back, owning it as its originator, and certainly hoping for eventual success.There are so many ways to approach this for starters, not limited to "royal" Merovingian bloodlines. I should think that anyone interested in bloodlines would be excited to know that such a project is possible.....if for no other reason than to disprove the theory of the tomb of Jesus in Kashmir. One way or another, such a project would be a solid step forward for any serious researcher....
Here I proposed that anyone under similar circumstances --and there must be millions of people in the world who connect their names in some rightful way to the 'Merovingian-Carolingian' ancestry (as someone suggested, probably at least half of Europe by now) can now use the DNA tool to help establish historical validation.
To my knowledge, no one else in the world has come forward and suggested the DNA Project...I am not aware of even one mention of DNA as a tool by any of the authors or researchers who first put forth the hypothesis. That is what I stand by and stand up for.
No one can make a valid claim without the DNA...So where do we start? I feel I proposed a logical and acceptable next step. I do stand up and own it as the next logical step...... but I did not invent the desposyni hypothesis.
jlockest, you asked me: Is this a case of deja-vu as hasn't this same exchange between Tim and yourself already occurred here within the past few months?
You are certainly right. That is why I posted description of stalker-harrassment on this thread...in response to the actions of TCP here and elsewhere.....In the three forums that TCP and I were both on since 2009; PoS, DaVinci Code, and Arcadia, I left, directly or indirectly, because of him. I remember clearly that I left PoS because of his constant badgering. I never mentioned Kathleen McGowan here or elsewhere unless he did first and demanded answers to his questions concerning her, or the lawsuit, or anything else he can think of to keep bringing the topic to the surface..just as he did again last night...(as you can see from where the above thread started again).
I remember a comment he made earlier somewhere here in Arcadia...he wouldn't have minded IF ONLY I HAD NOT INCLUDED MY OWN BLOODLINE. Then it left the research realm and entered the "ego" realm in his mind...and he has attacked ever since..
In the above, most recent take-off on one of his attacks, he mocked my DNA and ancestry (again) when I mentioned the Kashmir connection (and the Japanese ancestor). However, if you think through ..in Kashmir are records that Jesus married a Kashmir girl and had a family there. In Kashmir are people who acknowledge this and claim they are among the living descendants today. By me having a bloodline associated with the region is all the more supportive of the entire theory! I DO have scientific connection with that region...! There is nothing made up or egotistical about any of this...it is valid research.
So to return to this whole Merovingian thing....I repeat I did not invent it or create it or try to jump on the bandwagon for the sake of a few bucks and a quick-sell book.
I have the ancestry (according to others) and the DNA that makes it a valid research project.... well, it may have been valid until quacks and fakes and ego- driven hucksters DID jump in...How do I differentiate my quest from them? According to TCP, never.
...we are all lumped together and painted and tarred with the same brush..
Now let me ask you a hypothetical question....imagine if the slate was wiped clean...imagine there had been no McGowan claims, no Michael LaFosse....and I wrote my book....would it have appeared so controversial to you then?" Or would it have been an interesting project based on logic and science? When Richard Webster- who actually did read the book and knows how this all came together- wrote a review of the book, he made it clear that it didn't come off in the negative ways portrayed here...I cannot reprint word for word the entire book on this forum....this is why I get frustrated with people like TCP who just can't seem to pull it all together ---and yet can't read the book..I am practically re-writing the entire book here on this forum just to answer his demands, and that is not fair... how is any of this badgering fair to me? Tim's behavior on this and the other forums does
legally constitute stalking and harassment. I mentioned his behavior to Andrew weeks ago..