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 Post subject: Re: Demonstrable facts of the Bezu valley Landscape Geometry
PostPosted: 03 Jun 2012 9:59 am 
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Hmmm...all this about which map to use and how they connect...I would like to call your attention to another map...the Carte Cassini...
http://cassini.ehess.fr/cassini/fr/html ... gation.php

Click on the map for the department of Aude (having selected Department from the menu below) and then move the map around until you locate yourself in the Rennes area.

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"Full Title: ((Composite of) Carte de France. Levee par ordre du Roy. (1750-1815)
Author: (Cassini, Cesar-Francois, 1714-1784); (Cassini family)
Date: 1750
The Carte de France was published by four generations of the Cassini family from 1750 to 1815. It consists of 182 sheets at the same scale, allowing the sheets to be joined together to form a physical map of about 39 feet high by 38 feet wide. It is rich both in historical cultural information and exquisite graphic art. The map was the first national survey completed systematically, relying on the latest science of its time."

So in 1750 this is what they saw, noted and recorded. There is a church at St Just, there is a church at Bezu...there is a church at Rennes...there is nothing to note a chateau in the Bezu area (further up the Aude river one can see the notation Chau where the Aude intersects another stream, between Escouloubre and Rouze, as well as another slightly before there, on the other side of the river, between Campagnn and Fountanes). If the Albedun chateau were more than barely noticeable ruins, it would have bee noted (the ruins at Usson les Bains were preserved, the ones between Campagne & Fontaines (modern names) were not--although they did figure in Cathar history.

The first time I saw the church at Bezu was in 2001...one could recongize it as a church but it was in very poor condition (stone-wise) and covered in vines. Two years later the walls were repointed, repares and replastered and the vines gone.
Someone living nearby had a key if one wanted to look inside... I didn't. I like my ruins 'unimproved'.

Myself, I wonder who managed to get possession of the old church (yes, they did a lot of work, inside and out) and what they might have found....there.

While I think it's great to use one's intelligence and time to explore all sorts of possible scenarios and possibilities, I base my involvement on what I have experienced 'on the ground'...what I have been drawn to, or warned away from while in France. I have been drawn to places that are barely discernable on a good map (with very fine resolution). It isn't what I find physically that matters. The search and the discovery that there was 'something' there made it all worthwhile.
My treasure hunt? "Les hauts lieux ou souffle l'Espirit". (accent grave on the 'ou').

But do take a look at the map. You will see the Rennes area with different eyes. Sometimes google maps show too much and too little. The Cassini shows not just what they found, but in their accountings, one can see history as well.


Well if you look at that map you linked to over to the left of Bourges is the Chapel of St Ursin and Philippe de Cherisey in the journal Circuit drew our attention to this here:

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St Ursin is the centre of France.

It is in the former department of Berry and there is a manuscript from that area known as

Très Riches Heures du Duc de Berry

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The anatomical ZODIAC of man.

Read about the Book of Hours here

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Eirene is Greek for the Roman PAX.
She is one of the Horae (Hours)


Anyway having blown away our resident French thread spoiler (now on ignore, I'm starting to learn) nobody noticed this:

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On the Cassini map St Ursin is displayed as St Urim.

Urim is a SEER STONE sacred to the Church of the Latter Day Saints.

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 Post subject: Re: Demonstrable facts of the Bezu valley Landscape Geometry
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On the Cassini map St Ursin is displayed as St Urim.


No it doesn't, it says "La Chapelle St Ursin"...


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http://achft.ville-fachesthumesnil.org/ ... 8868371405

Hit the zoom button.


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Sheila wrote:
http://achft.ville-fachesthumesnil.org/ancie_01.php?carte=10&zoomx=-0.061378405764873&zoomy=-0.012778868371405

Hit the zoom button.

Thanks for posting that Sheila. Egi asked me to post up some old maps, but it is extremely difficult as they need to be able to be zoomed to be readable.
If anyone would like the files such as Cassini etc in .jp2 format send me a PM ( a couple are in .sid files which need a program to read them ).
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 Post subject: Re: Demonstrable facts of the Bezu valley Landscape Geometry
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Do you know from where the word Religion stems from? It means Rebind. Rebind to the spirit.

The derivation you give stems from St Augustine, an Algerian living from November 13, 354ad to August 28, 430ad.

Augustine guessed it was from Religare - to bind back.

The Roman Cicero, 4.5 centuries earlier, suggested it was from Religere - to read duly.

Neither are probably right, because they don't take into account the long e of the first syllable (see Lucretius's De Rerum Natura) and the alternative Latin spelling relligio in early documents. Relligio can only be formed from rem legere - to choose or pick the right thing.

As we know the Romans were obsessed with analysing omens and portents, assessing their impact and devising offerings to suitably appease the gods. The College of Augurs being the ones who had the job of picking or choosing the right things.


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Un Tunisien, pas un Algerien.

Et pour Roskoff, le livre d'heures du Duc de Berry a ete cree sur une periode de cent ans, a Paris et en Flandres.
Je n'ai jamais rencontre un Anglais si recalcitrant a l'education, c'est quand meme quelque chose!


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i always thought Augustin called himself a Numidian, therefore he was actually an Amazigh.


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Sheila wrote:
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On the Cassini map St Ursin is displayed as St Urim.


No it doesn't, it says "La Chapelle St Ursin"...


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http://cassini.ehess.fr/cassini/fr/html ... gation.php

St Urim in the centre of France. Something very dear to Philippe de Cherisey.

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In ancient Israelite religion and culture, Urim and Thummim (Hebrew: האורים והתומים‎, Standard haʾUrim vəhaTummim Tiberian hāʾÛrîm wəhatTummîm) is a phrase from the Hebrew Scriptures or Torah associated with the hoshen (High Priest's breastplate), divination in general, and cleromancy in particular. Most scholars suspect that the phrase refers to specific objects involved in the divination.
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Urim and Thummim has traditionally been translated as lights and perfections

However, although at face value the words are plural, the context suggests they are pluralis intensivus - singular words which are pluralised to enhance their apparent majesty.[2] The singular forms - ur and tumm - have been connected by some early scholars with the Babylonian terms urtu and tamitu, meaning oracle and command, respectively.[2] Many scholars now believe that אוּרִים (Urim) simply derives from the Hebrew term אּרּרִים (Arrim), meaning curses, and thus that Urim and Thummim essentially means cursed or faultless, in reference to the deity's view of an accused—in other words Urim and Thummim were used to answer the question innocent or guilty.
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a sacred breastplate worn by Hebrew priests and here it is:

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But hey it's a matter of conjecture. So perhaps someone here can describe to me who St Ursin was.

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Un Tunisien, pas un Algerien.

Et pour Roskoff, le livre d'heures du Duc de Berry a ete cree sur une periode de cent ans, a Paris et en Flandres.
Je n'ai jamais rencontre un Anglais si recalcitrant a l'education, c'est quand meme quelque chose!


Any chance that someone out there can teach this prat to speak AND UNDERSTAND English?

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It says La Chapelle St Ursin....not Urim.

You can't even read a map.


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Sheila wrote:
It says La Chapelle St Ursin....not Urim.

You can't even read a map.


So who was St Ursin?

ANTIPOPE.

Sainted and has a Chapel at the centre of the French Hexagram. According to Philippe de Cherisey that is.

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Oh and by the way I'm still not convinced that it doesn't say URIM.

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Oh and by the way I'm still not convinced that it doesn't say URIM.


get your eyes tested and take a basic study in ye olde French...it says Ursin.

Chapelle St URSIN is a commune btw...i think you missed that point as well.


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Sheila wrote:
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Oh and by the way I'm still not convinced that it doesn't say URIM.


Chapelle St URSIN is a commune btw...i think you missed that point as well.


And I said that de Cherisey made a point of making La Chapelle St Ursin the centre of the French Hexagram on L'épée du Marquis

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Did YOU miss THAT point?

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Philippe de Chérisey affirme connaître le « Grand Secret » p.93 :
« Deux désirs contraires se partagent mon âme, la gloire de publier tout cela au grand jour, et celui de garder jalousement ce trésor sans en jamais rien dire. Ma vie entière se passe à hésiter et je me réveille dans le même instant que je me meurs. »

Il confirme que les prêtres étaient devenus les gardiens du Secret, p.105 :
« Par le célibat qui leur est imposé les prêtres sont les meilleurs gardiens de trésors que l’on puisse concevoir. »
Il donne UNE clef de lecture du livre codé laissé par Boudet, p.69 :
« Un prêtre, parce qu’il est soucieux du Ciel et de la Terre, se doit de méditer sur les rapports de l’astronomie avec la géographie »…

Il nous confie que le Cromleck décrit par l’abbé Boudet n’est qu’un artifice destiné à faire passer un message, p.79 :
« A la différence des phénomènes qu’il faut voir pour y croire, le Cromleck de RLB ne se voit que quand on y croit : rien n’y fait vraiment preuve, pas même les roulers ou la pierre posée qui paraîtront volontiers des caprices de la nature. »

Il explique les causes de la mort de l’abbé Saunière, p.89 :
« On n’étudiera pas ici le châtiment mortel de cet ecclésiastique qui, trésorier d’une société (…) outre passa ses droits en se croyant propriétaire. »
Tell me why you ignore that from Philippe de Cherisey himself?

And why do you ignore this shown below?

Do you need glasses?

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Notes by General David-Leroy

(1) The French society of Fort Mardyck was dissolved in 1824 on the orders of Charles X, as the fishermen had descended into illiteracy and so were no longer capable of governing themselves.

(2) The French Republic takes its nickname of "Marianne" from the Marianne Canal which formerly joined Mardyck, Petite Synthe and Dunkirk.

(3) The reputation for ugliness bestowed on the church of Saint Sulpice has always had the aim of distracting attention away from its prodigious interest, which goes far beyond the "mystery of the cathedrals". If Saint Sulpice is ugly then that is probably due to the multiple plans that meant that it was constantly being modified during its construction, in other words as a result of the pursuit of the most complex symbol which, unfortunately, remains inaccessible.

If we remain in the Romantic Era for a moment, certain phenomena have attracted the attention of historians. It was while looking at the towers of Saint Sulpice that Flora Tristan had the revelation that they had been built with charitable donations, which she then made her personal quest on behalf of the people. It was at Saint Sulpice also that Flora Tristan, the grandmother of the painter Gauguin, invented the famous Christian formula, "Workers of the world unite". It was once again at Saint Sulpice that the conspirators of the "Jeune France" movement agreed that "El Hierro" would be the rallying cry for the Battle of Hernani.

And what was going through Madame Victor Hugo's mind when, on those nights when her husband had a "first night" at the theatre, she had guilty meetings there with Sainte-Beuve?

The case of the sculptor Carpeaux seems to be a case of being, as it were, split in two by the two meridians. His home in the Rue de l'Abbaye was located on the golden line of Saint Sulpice, and it was at Saint Sulpice on 15 August 1854 that he prayed to the Virgin to arrange for him to win the Prix de Rome for his "Hector invoking the Gods in favour of Astyanax". However it was on the meridian of the Observatory that Carpeaux enjoyed good fortune on two separate occasions: the first under the porch of Amiens Cathedral, where Napoleon III saw his bas-relief depicting the surrender of Abd-el-Kader. The second was the commission entrusted to him in 1867 to construct the monumental fountain of the Observatory, which illustrates the zero meridian in the Luxembourg Gardens. Between these two events one must situate the famous dialogue of the artist with the scientist Arago:

Carpeaux: "You bunch of astronomers, you don't believe in anything at all".
Arago: "But who lives closer to God than we do?"

It seems that the Carpeaux was the spiritual heir of the sculptor Elschoet, known as "La Chouette" (the owl), who was born in Dunkirk in 1791 and who decorated the Palais de Luxembourg.

(4) PréParadol reports a groundswell of opinion which, in 1859, demanded the return of the Balearic Islands to France because of their location between France and North Africa.

(5) The pyramid of Cherchell is the strangest of all. Recent excavations have revealed a network of corridors that do not lead to any burial sites.
Or did you need a trick appealing to your primitive knee jerk emotions to make you look?

Saint Ursin was an Anti-Pope you know.

Saint Ursin was Arian. He was right at the centre of things in more ways than one.

After SAINT Ursin popes could only be elected by "Higher Clergy" and not laymen.

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yes dear boy, i know all that but unlike yourself i don't feel the need to keep on repeating myself over and over again....i prefer to advance rather than tread water.


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yes dear boy, i know all that but unlike yourself i don't feel the need to keep on repeating myself over and over again....i prefer to advance rather than tread water.


There's only one truth and when you've got there you have no more room to advance.

I know what Sauniere was up to. He was doing what other priests in France were doing but he wasn't as discreet

What we discussed above was what de Cherisey was up to.

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On Saturday Henry Lincoln won the "Bérenger Sauniere 2012" prize for the sum of his work.

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He follows Laurent Octonovo (2009), Mariano Tomatis (2010) and Christian Doumergue (2011) in receiving this prize.


PRIX BÉRENGER SAUNIÈRE -

L'Association pour les Recherches Thématiques sur Bérenger Saunière (ARTBS) remet chaque année, à l’issue de son Colloque d’Etudes et de Recherches, le prix Bérenger. Il est destiné à récompenser le meilleur travail d’étude portant sur l’affaire de Rennes-le-Château et sujets connexes, et notamment sur la mécanique de création de la dite affaire ainsi que sur son contexte (historique, politique, religieux, généalogique etc….). Les travaux portant directement sur la recherche du trésor supposé de l’abbé Saunière ne sont pas concernés.

Par travaux, nous entendons toute publication, qu’elle prenne la forme d’un livre, d’un article dans une revue, d’une réalisation vidéo, audio ou sur support informatique (CD Rom).

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On Saturday Henry Lincoln won the "Bérenger Sauniere 2012" prize for the sum of his work.

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He follows Laurent Octonovo (2009), Mariano Tomatis (2010) and Christian Doumergue (2011) in receiving this prize.


I would like to start a movement to nominate Ben Hammott for next year's prize. It is time to properly recognize his work regarding the RLC affair.

Who is with me?

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that idiot off youtube? wait.... you're not trying to raise 2million quid are you?


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On Saturday Henry Lincoln won the "Bérenger Sauniere 2012" prize for the sum of his work.

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He follows Laurent Octonovo (2009), Mariano Tomatis (2010) and Christian Doumergue (2011) in receiving this prize.


I would like to start a movement to nominate Ben Hammott for next year's prize. It is time to properly recognize his work regarding the RLC affair.

Who is with me?


Yeh nominate The Tombman (The anagram of Ben Hammott) and arrest Bill Wilkinson for time wasting. Or maybe the other way around.

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We have 5 circles all joined together as a Vestica Pisces.

The following readings of the 5 circles have come directly from David Williams. Notice that Coustaussa is on each of the 5 circle circumferences.

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Circle 1 centred on Esperaza. Contains the churches of les Sauzils, St Ferriol, Granes and Coustaussa.
2 miles 1586 yards 2 foot 5 inches.
Circle 2 Containing Laval church, Bezu church, Esperaza and Coustaussa churches on the circumference.
2 miles 1670 yards 10½ inches
Circle 3 centred on Coustaussa church, with the track ways at Combe Loubiere and Esperaza church on the circumference.
2 miles 1580 yards 1 foot 7¼inches
Circle 4 Containing Bugarach church, St Just church, Coustaussa church, Serres church and Rennes le Chateau.
2 miles 1588 yards 9½ inches
Circle 5 Containing Terroles church, Castillou church and again Coustaussa church.
2 miles 1589 yards 1 foot


As you can see, with the exception of circle 2 (about 100 yards out) all these circles are within 9 yards of each other. This is from a man who set out to disprove the landscape geometry, he couldn't even read his own data properly.

9 Yards difference over more than two and a half miles according to David Williams constitutes proof that these circles are random.

Remember these are not my readings but that of David Williams who provided Mariano Tomatis with his data. Tomatis then used the data of David Williams to then debunk the landscape geometry facts.

David Williams has since removed all this data used by Tomatis from the internet and can no longer be scutinised


Williams says himself that as he cannot get readings whilst inside the church so these are taken from standing outside the church. so he stands about 9 yards from the altar.

ALL these circles pass through Coustaussa church

Anyone want to repeat that using random but related objects?

Here's the mission should you choose to accept it. You are to construct five circles over an eight mile area using related objects with each circle circumference passing through one of the objects. These circles must be within 9 yards radius of each other. Let me reiterate that you must use ALL of these related objects in the area with no exceptions

All these churches were placed over former sites of pagan worship.

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We have 5 circles all joined together as a Vestica Pisces.

The following readings of the 5 circles have come directly from David Williams. Notice that Coustaussa is on each of the 5 circle circumferences.

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Circle 1 centred on Esperaza. Contains the churches of les Sauzils, St Ferriol, Granes and Coustaussa.
2 miles 1586 yards 2 foot 5 inches.
Circle 2 Containing Laval church, Bezu church, Esperaza and Coustaussa churches on the circumference.
2 miles 1670 yards 10½ inches
Circle 3 centred on Coustaussa church, with the track ways at Combe Loubiere and Esperaza church on the circumference.
2 miles 1580 yards 1 foot 7¼inches
Circle 4 Containing Bugarach church, St Just church, Coustaussa church, Serres church and Rennes le Chateau.
2 miles 1588 yards 9½ inches
Circle 5 Containing Terroles church, Castillou church and again Coustaussa church.
2 miles 1589 yards 1 foot


As you can see, with the exception of circle 2 (about 100 yards out) all these circles are within 9 yards of each other. This is from a man who set out to disprove the landscape geometry, he couldn't even read his own data properly.

9 Yards difference over more than two and a half miles according to David Williams constitutes proof that these circles are random.

Remember these are not my readings but that of David Williams who provided Mariano Tomatis with his data. Tomatis then used the data of David Williams to then debunk the landscape geometry facts.

David Williams has since removed all this data used by Tomatis from the internet and can no longer be scutinised


Williams says himself that as he cannot get readings whilst inside the church so these are taken from standing outside the church. so he stands about 9 yards from the altar.

ALL these circles pass through Coustaussa church

Anyone want to repeat that using random but related objects?

Here's the mission should you choose to accept it. You are to construct five circles over an eight mile area using related objects with each circle circumference passing through one of the objects. These circles must be within 9 yards radius of each other. Let me reiterate that you must use ALL of these related objects in the area with no exceptions

All these churches were placed over former sites of pagan worship.


No takers then?

You viewed this in stunned ineptitude.

I'm not surprised of course.

You can't do it.

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Why was a 200-ton ancient Egyptian obelisk raised in front of the Vatican in Rome, and a cross placed on its top which, by design or strange coincidence, created the hieroglyph that denoted the name of Anu: Heliopolis, the ancient Egyptian "City of the Sun"?

Why did Benjamin Franklin become the "Venerable" of the elitist Freemasonic lodge of The Nine Sisters in Paris? Who were the other mysterious 400 members?

Why was Voltaire initiated there? Why was a "glowing pyramid with an eye" placed on his coffin?

And Why was a similar symbol of a "pyramid and eye" placed on the frontispiece of the Declaration of the Rights of Man?

Why did Napoleon Bonaparte have a similar statue of Isis and also her "star" added to the coat of arms of Paris?

Why was a huge statue of the Egyptian goddess Isis raised in the Place de la Bastille to represent the ‘Goddess of Liberty’ during the French Revolution?

Why did Francois Mitterand commission a "glass pyramid" modelled on the Great Pyramid of Giza for the Bicentennial of the French Revolution?

Why was a 3500-years-old obelisk taken from the ancient Egyptian sun temple at Luxor and raised in the heart of Paris?

Why did French Freemasons gift America with a giant "Goddess of Liberty" for New York harbour – the famous Statue of Liberty, which had originally been planned as a statue of the ancient Egyptian goddess Isis, to stand at the entrance to the Suez Canal?

Why did the American Freemasons commission a giant Egyptian-styled obelisk as the Washington Monument? Why was the winged solar disc of the ancient Egyptians placed on its entrance? Why was a "glowing pyramid with an eye" put on the Great Seal of the United States?

Why was Franklin Delano Roosevelt a 32nd degree Freemason and why did he commission a "glowing pyramid with an eye" for the one dollar bill?

Why was Harry Truman a 33rd degree Freemason and why did he help create the new State of Israel?

Why did George W. Bush take the presidential oath on the Masonic Bible of the Grand Lodge of New York?

Why were the Twin Towers targeted by "Bin Laden"?


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 Post subject: Re: Demonstrable facts of the Bezu valley Landscape Geometry
PostPosted: 17 Jun 2012 11:15 am 
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BULLDOGNIC wrote:
Egi asked me to post up some old maps, but it is extremely difficult as they need to be able to be zoomed to be readable.
Nic


Nic do you have any old maps of the forest of Marly/Marley...Metz?
Specifically showing the chateau/fortress Montjoi or earlier :D


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 Post subject: Re: Demonstrable facts of the Bezu valley Landscape Geometry
PostPosted: 17 Jun 2012 12:27 pm 
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tingra wrote:
BULLDOGNIC wrote:
Egi asked me to post up some old maps, but it is extremely difficult as they need to be able to be zoomed to be readable.
Nic


Nic do you have any old maps of the forest of Marly/Marley...Metz?
Specifically showing the chateau/fortress Montjoi or earlier :D

I'll have a look.
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Nic


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 Post subject: Re: Demonstrable facts of the Bezu valley Landscape Geometry
PostPosted: 17 Jun 2012 12:45 pm 
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you could start with Cassini ...click to zoom.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Fo ... assini.png


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